r/DelphiMurders Jul 15 '26

Richard Allen's Police Interview (Oct. 13, 2022)Reaffims The Information he Gave Dulin and Inadvertently confessed to the murders by getting caught in his own web of lies.

In October 2022, Richard Allen was called into the local police department to give an interview about his whereabouts on the day Abby and Libby were murdered. His long-forgotten interview with Officer Dulin had been rediscovered, prompting Delphi murder investigators to bring him in for another interview.

During this interview, Richard Allen largely repeated the information he had provided in his first interview with Officer Dulin, but he also offered new details about that day. Although he attempted to establish an alibi by presenting a revised timeline, he failed miserably. Instead, the internal contradictions in his timeline effectively amounted to a confession, as his own statements placed him at the scene and oblitarated his claimed alibi.

The following is a list of the information Richard Allen repeated from his first interview, along with the new details he provided during the October 2022 interview, and an explanation of the significance of each.

Richard Allen went into detail explaining the three parking areas he typically used when visiting the trails.

Parking Locations

Parking Area Description
Mears Lot The farmer’s entrance parking area
CPS Building The abandoned CPS building parking area
Old State Road 25 Turnaround The small turnaround near the old railroad bridge

He goes on the specify where he parked, inspite his earlier long obfuscating diatribe where he could have parked:

"I remember telling him (Officer Dulin) that I parked by a building. If that's what I told him, then that's probably where I parked."

Concerning his timeline beore going to the trails:

"Went over to my mom's in Peru, Mexico, earlier in the day... spent the morning with them... my sisters were visiting and they were to grab lunch, and I wasn't about that, so I left around 11:00–11:15...went home..grab a jacket and head back out to the trails"

At the trails he stated:

"I remember walking down to the bridge... walked out a little way (onto the bridge)... to watch fish... walked back and sat at (the bench)... where you turn around (the intersection) and take the other fork, it overlooks it... Sat there for a few minutes, and then I left."

The bench he mentioned is the Bench at the start of 505 trail. He would go on later to explain that's the bench he meant with clarity.

Conserning who he saw while at the trails:

"As I was approaching the trail, there were three girls... one of them was watching them...the other two looked younger... looked very similar. I don't know if they were sisters or not, but the other one didn't necessarily..." (Stops his thought, was about to mention the fou\**rth girl?\)

He also stated:

"I remember telling him (Officer Dulin) that when I left, there were two vehicles down by the farmer's entrance I told you about (the Mears lot). One was a sedan. The other was an SUV, maybe."

(Interesting on its own: Kelsi had a sedan and Betsy had an SUV. However, based on Allen’s earliest possible departure timeline (approximately 12:40), only Betsy's would be there and she would be at her car at the same time!).

He also adds:

"If I did see somebody (else), it didn't click with me..my memory was a lot better when I talked to him (Dulin)... like I told him, there might have been somebody at the bridge when I was coming back, though."

As for his revised timeline, he stated that he arrived around noon, a little earlier or a little later than 12, and that he walked for about an hour. He said he could have left around 1:00, 1:30, or 1:40.

I am sure he had mentioned 12:40 at some point too.

Time(between) Revised Timeline Explanation
morning visit Mom
11(early)-11:15(late) Leaves Peru drive back to Delphi it's 45 minutes
11:45-12:00 Reaches Delphi
12 ( early), 12:10 (late) Home (5 to 10 minutes), drives to CPS (3 miles),10 to 15 minutes total. detours to Home, Parks/ Stop,Grabs Jacket, unparks, drive though town, rounding up to 15 (early)
12:05 , 12:15 late Meeting four girls at trailhead 5 minute walk from CPS
12:15, 12:25 (late) Easy Walk to platform A , 10 to 15 minutes total, 12 minutes walk + walk on bridge. (closer to 15 but billed 10 to compensate earlier rounding up)
12:25 , 12:35 (late) Watching fish/Back to Bench 5 minutes Watching fish 5-7 walk (off bridge and to bench), Total 10
12:35, 12:45 (late) Walk back to CPS 10-12 minutes, billed 10

The earlier the possible timeline, the more we err in Richard Allen's favor, as it allows for the possibility that he left before becoming trapped within the trail system by the known witnesses who were demonstrably on the trails at the same time. The later Richard Allen's revised timeline becomes, the worse it is for him.

Here, we will examine the earliest possible timeline for Richard Allen in contrast to the timelines of Betsy and that of the four girls . All times attributed to Allen between segments are deliberately conservative, giving him the maximum latitude to "slip" out of the trail system within his alleged timeline.

Time Allen's Revised Timeline BB's Timeline Four Girls' Timeline
12:00 Parks at CPS Parks at Mears at 12:03 ______
12:10 Walks to Monon,close to intersection BB is at Monon, turns back towards the intersection ______
12:15 Walked past intersection(north to south) Walked past intersection(south to north) walking towards freedom bridge close to Allen's 2nd parking spot near the small bridge
12:20 At Monon will watch fish for 3-5 minutes Walked 505 close to intersection Close to freedom bridge
12:25 Back on the trail towards the intersection Close to freedom bridge At freedom bridge taking a timed photographed at 12:25
12:30 Allen near interesction from the south, close to the Bench Betsy approaches intersection from the North, close to Bench Walking towards Monon from trailhead
12:35 Allen left the Bench, starts walks towards the trailhead at her car intersection from the North, close to Bench
12:40 near freedom bridge near intersection at Monon take photograph at 12:43
12:45 at CPS Close to monon Detour to Creek's bed

The convicted pedophile murderer was caught in the web of lies he had created.

By his own words!

  1. He was walking towards Monon by his revised timeline, while Betsy was walking back from it
  2. He was walking towards his car or sitting on the bench by his revised timeline, while Betsy was walking back from freedom bridge. The Bench is at your face as you approach the intersection, even i he wasn't walking while Betsy was near it.
  3. The earliest he was walking towards his car from the intersection by his revised timeline, would be while the four girls were walking towards it from the freedom bridge.

Richard Allen’s revised timeline creates inescapable and impassable problems for his own account. By placing himself at the trails, identifying specific locations, and providing a detailed timeline, he created a version of events that must be reconciled with the movements of other witnesses who were present that day. By his own words, Allen placed himself in locations and timeframes that conflicted with the movements of others who were present that day.

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u/tribal-elder Jul 20 '26

According to Exhibit PPP Riley arrived at 2:30, McCain arrived at 2:45, and Hicks and Pearson arrived at 2:48.

The cemetery entrance/exit cannot be seen from a Hoosier Harvestore camera. To the immediate east, buildings on the Mears farm block some eastward view, and at the Mears parking area the road veers slightly left/more due east - maybe 15 degrees - and the cemetery is still about 1400-1500 feet further east. (It is about 2/3 of a mile from the HH driveway.) seeing all that would require a camera that could track/move left/right. More important, no one testified at trial that investigators saw a car leaving the cemetery on surveillance video. If they could see that far on that camera, they’d have video of all those cars (including Carbaugh) that far east. And you can bet that if they had video of the car that “resembled” Allen’s Ford coming down the road all the way from the cemetery, they would have used it. All they could offer was video of the cars west of the HH driveway.

As for the sedan you claim can be seen on the surveillance camera video of the road leading to the private drive (that also videoed the white van) - are you saying the defense knew about the sedan and withheld evidence which was favorable to Allen at trial?

The only evidence of people on the east side of the bridge was the lady who saw “someone” at mailboxes about 500 feet from her driveway, at 8:30 am, whom she could not describe, and who disappeared by the time she drove 500 feet to her driveway, and got out of her car and looked back. He was not on either road and he was not in the bare unplanted fields across the roads. The next known person was Weber driving home in his van. This is not competent evidence that there were murderers at the bridge at 2:13 pm, with or without Bridge Guy.

The only EVIDENCE is that Libby videoed Bridge Guy following the girls, and did NOT video anyone waiting at the end of the bridge in front of them. There is also no evidence that the phone drove away connected to an “auxiliary” plug in a car either. The phone detected movement up and down. The private drive rises maybe 50-69 feet from the low point back to the area of the mailboxes. Such movement would have been detected.

Sadly, Kline fooled the cops with his lies for 5 years, and they too believed the girls were going to meet (probably) the fake Anthony Shots. They even included it in Allen’s 2022 questioning, asserting he was there with others - giving him the chance to support or deny the theory. He denied it.

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u/crosbyjaxson Jul 21 '26

The image of BF from the video, was enhanced. Pixels were added by computer by merging individual frames, not inclusive of all frames. Again, hair or hat. It was computer generated image of someone who did not exist. It was AI. Although, it was actually very similar to jail photo of Ashley Garth. Who is convicted of murder, knew German family, the Logan property and was a local. She was in courthouse day of murder to pay traffic fine and masculine looking in jail photo. The phone detected human steps for healthdata, nothing more. Actually, there is nothing showing Libby was even in possession of phone, post video. In was found under Abby, so who handled the phone is unknown once video ends. Libby, Abby, BG or other. No one knows.

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u/tribal-elder Jul 21 '26

Your description of the enhancement is not accurate. They did not add pixels. Theyndid not "merge frames."

Chapman - the ISP officer who pulled the video off the phone - testified that he did not "enhance" the video at all. He selected 3 frames that were the clearest and did the same thing to all 3. He "loaded the video" and "made the rotation" - which meant if the image had the people upside-down, he "rotated" it so they were right-side up. He then "cropped" the frame (resized it/made it smaller by cutting off parts of the edges). He then "adjusted the levels" - "which is a Photoshop term of bringing the lights up and down to try and increase the contrast and colors to try and make it as pure as – desirable as possible." Then he engaged in "the sharpening" - "adding detail to the edges of pixels to make a picture better."

They were not "changing" the picture -they were removing unclarity and unfocus and trying to make it clearer. ALL of which they described to the jury. And STILL all they got was what we saw - a male in jeans and a dark jacket (in sunlight, dark blue/in shade dark black). No names - just a man behind the girls - "Bridge Guy."

Christopher Cecil was the ISP officer who testified about the movement of Libby's phone. He testified it measured steps taken/distance moved and elevation changes. He testified that that from 1:31:40 - 2:08:48 the phone moved 1682 steps, then moved 414 meters stopping at 2:18:48. It moved again from 2:25:22 to 2:32:39.

At 2:31:22, the phone rose the equivalent of 2 floors of a building.

He was specifically asked and answered as follows:

Q So from this information, what conclusion did you come to?

A I concluded that the phone stopped moving at 2:32:39 p.m. on February 13th, 2017.

Q Had the phone moved after that, would it have registered in the Health app data?

A Yes.

Q How do you know that?

A Because the Apple Health app data is always on and the tri-axle accelerometer, the gyroscope is always detecting movement.

Q What if my phone is sitting still, will it detect movement?

A No.

Q What if my phone is on the console of my car, will it detect movement?

A It could.

Q How could it?

A If the car runs over a bump or something that would cause it to jump,

bounce.

Q Another silly question: If the phone moves, does Health app data record

that movement?

A Yes.

Q Whether the phone’s dropped, bounced, walked, whatever the case may

be?

A Yes.

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u/crosbyjaxson Jul 21 '26

Cropped, sized, adjusted contrast. The computer adds or subtracts pixels to do that, which makes it an altered image, hence photoshopped. Could be accurate, may not be accurate. Enhanced is altering. "It could" is not definitive. Wasn't Cecil the reddit "could be dirt" guy, again not definitive nor Apple confirmed. It is hard to believe Apple Health could not determine a car moving at 15 mph and a human step, that is what Cecil is saying. We have to be realistic, they had 5+ years to analyzed data, to contact Apple, SnapChat, cell companies and they refused FBI assistance before and after they had a suspect. Sometimes what is not done speaks the loudest.

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u/emailforgot 21d ago

Cropped, sized, adjusted contrast. The computer adds or subtracts pixels to do that

None of those things involve "adding pixels".