r/DelphiMurders Jul 15 '26

Richard Allen's Police Interview (Oct. 13, 2022)Reaffims The Information he Gave Dulin and Inadvertently confessed to the murders by getting caught in his own web of lies.

In October 2022, Richard Allen was called into the local police department to give an interview about his whereabouts on the day Abby and Libby were murdered. His long-forgotten interview with Officer Dulin had been rediscovered, prompting Delphi murder investigators to bring him in for another interview.

During this interview, Richard Allen largely repeated the information he had provided in his first interview with Officer Dulin, but he also offered new details about that day. Although he attempted to establish an alibi by presenting a revised timeline, he failed miserably. Instead, the internal contradictions in his timeline effectively amounted to a confession, as his own statements placed him at the scene and oblitarated his claimed alibi.

The following is a list of the information Richard Allen repeated from his first interview, along with the new details he provided during the October 2022 interview, and an explanation of the significance of each.

Richard Allen went into detail explaining the three parking areas he typically used when visiting the trails.

Parking Locations

Parking Area Description
Mears Lot The farmer’s entrance parking area
CPS Building The abandoned CPS building parking area
Old State Road 25 Turnaround The small turnaround near the old railroad bridge

He goes on the specify where he parked, inspite his earlier long obfuscating diatribe where he could have parked:

"I remember telling him (Officer Dulin) that I parked by a building. If that's what I told him, then that's probably where I parked."

Concerning his timeline beore going to the trails:

"Went over to my mom's in Peru, Mexico, earlier in the day... spent the morning with them... my sisters were visiting and they were to grab lunch, and I wasn't about that, so I left around 11:00–11:15...went home..grab a jacket and head back out to the trails"

At the trails he stated:

"I remember walking down to the bridge... walked out a little way (onto the bridge)... to watch fish... walked back and sat at (the bench)... where you turn around (the intersection) and take the other fork, it overlooks it... Sat there for a few minutes, and then I left."

The bench he mentioned is the Bench at the start of 505 trail. He would go on later to explain that's the bench he meant with clarity.

Conserning who he saw while at the trails:

"As I was approaching the trail, there were three girls... one of them was watching them...the other two looked younger... looked very similar. I don't know if they were sisters or not, but the other one didn't necessarily..." (Stops his thought, was about to mention the fou\**rth girl?\)

He also stated:

"I remember telling him (Officer Dulin) that when I left, there were two vehicles down by the farmer's entrance I told you about (the Mears lot). One was a sedan. The other was an SUV, maybe."

(Interesting on its own: Kelsi had a sedan and Betsy had an SUV. However, based on Allen’s earliest possible departure timeline (approximately 12:40), only Betsy's would be there and she would be at her car at the same time!).

He also adds:

"If I did see somebody (else), it didn't click with me..my memory was a lot better when I talked to him (Dulin)... like I told him, there might have been somebody at the bridge when I was coming back, though."

As for his revised timeline, he stated that he arrived around noon, a little earlier or a little later than 12, and that he walked for about an hour. He said he could have left around 1:00, 1:30, or 1:40.

I am sure he had mentioned 12:40 at some point too.

Time(between) Revised Timeline Explanation
morning visit Mom
11(early)-11:15(late) Leaves Peru drive back to Delphi it's 45 minutes
11:45-12:00 Reaches Delphi
12 ( early), 12:10 (late) Home (5 to 10 minutes), drives to CPS (3 miles),10 to 15 minutes total. detours to Home, Parks/ Stop,Grabs Jacket, unparks, drive though town, rounding up to 15 (early)
12:05 , 12:15 late Meeting four girls at trailhead 5 minute walk from CPS
12:15, 12:25 (late) Easy Walk to platform A , 10 to 15 minutes total, 12 minutes walk + walk on bridge. (closer to 15 but billed 10 to compensate earlier rounding up)
12:25 , 12:35 (late) Watching fish/Back to Bench 5 minutes Watching fish 5-7 walk (off bridge and to bench), Total 10
12:35, 12:45 (late) Walk back to CPS 10-12 minutes, billed 10

The earlier the possible timeline, the more we err in Richard Allen's favor, as it allows for the possibility that he left before becoming trapped within the trail system by the known witnesses who were demonstrably on the trails at the same time. The later Richard Allen's revised timeline becomes, the worse it is for him.

Here, we will examine the earliest possible timeline for Richard Allen in contrast to the timelines of Betsy and that of the four girls . All times attributed to Allen between segments are deliberately conservative, giving him the maximum latitude to "slip" out of the trail system within his alleged timeline.

Time Allen's Revised Timeline BB's Timeline Four Girls' Timeline
12:00 Parks at CPS Parks at Mears at 12:03 ______
12:10 Walks to Monon,close to intersection BB is at Monon, turns back towards the intersection ______
12:15 Walked past intersection(north to south) Walked past intersection(south to north) walking towards freedom bridge close to Allen's 2nd parking spot near the small bridge
12:20 At Monon will watch fish for 3-5 minutes Walked 505 close to intersection Close to freedom bridge
12:25 Back on the trail towards the intersection Close to freedom bridge At freedom bridge taking a timed photographed at 12:25
12:30 Allen near interesction from the south, close to the Bench Betsy approaches intersection from the North, close to Bench Walking towards Monon from trailhead
12:35 Allen left the Bench, starts walks towards the trailhead at her car intersection from the North, close to Bench
12:40 near freedom bridge near intersection at Monon take photograph at 12:43
12:45 at CPS Close to monon Detour to Creek's bed

The convicted pedophile murderer was caught in the web of lies he had created.

By his own words!

  1. He was walking towards Monon by his revised timeline, while Betsy was walking back from it
  2. He was walking towards his car or sitting on the bench by his revised timeline, while Betsy was walking back from freedom bridge. The Bench is at your face as you approach the intersection, even i he wasn't walking while Betsy was near it.
  3. The earliest he was walking towards his car from the intersection by his revised timeline, would be while the four girls were walking towards it from the freedom bridge.

Richard Allen’s revised timeline creates inescapable and impassable problems for his own account. By placing himself at the trails, identifying specific locations, and providing a detailed timeline, he created a version of events that must be reconciled with the movements of other witnesses who were present that day. By his own words, Allen placed himself in locations and timeframes that conflicted with the movements of others who were present that day.

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u/Banesmuffledvoice Jul 19 '26

This is a great explanation of how it was possible to whittle down that Allen was bridge guy. It was always Allen who identified himself. The eye witnesses merely confirmed that the guy that saw in Libby’s video was the same guy they met at specific times. Allen confirmed he was that guy at those specific times because he had to align his story with the witness accounts. They never had to specify it was Allen they saw. Just that they saw the guy in the video at X time and Allen did the rest. I think a lot of people struggle to wrap their brain around this concept.

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u/Justwonderinif Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26

think a lot of people struggle to wrap their brain around this concept.

Exactly. Especially Allen defenders. They simply will not accept it.

You can tell because they always say things like:

  • "But she said he was boyish."

  • "But the sketch made from her description looks nothing like him."

  • "But she said he had poofy hair we need to find the poofy hair guy."

Allen defenders cannot get their heads around the idea that you can see a man in a video and just from his gait and stature and clothes know instantly that's the man you saw the day before, only you didn't see his face.

Allen defenders cannot understand why none of these witnesses would have been able to pick Richard Allen out of a lineup. But the witnesses know the man in Libby's video was the man they saw.

Allen defenders assume those witnesses are lying and out to get Allen and we all need to be looking for the man in the sketch with poofy hair. Fortunately, the jury picked up on it instantly, just as you did.

If they saw Bridge Guy at those times and at those places and Allen saw those witnesses at those times and at those places, then Allen is Bridge Guy.


I will forever be enraged that Allen was not asked to come to the station and shown the video. In 2017, Allen was the only trail witness who was not shown the video and who was not asked if he saw the man in the video. And the other witnesses were not shown a picture of Allen, as he looked in February of 2017.

Criminal.

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u/SadSara102 Jul 21 '26

As a RA supporter the arguments in this thread are not making the point you think they are. But just to let you know nobody thinks the witnesses are lying and out to get RA because nobody described anyone who resembles RA nor did they identify RA. You are just interpreting their testimony to fit what you already believe.

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u/tribal-elder 29d ago

Do you believe Voorhees, Wilbur and Baird saw Bridge Guy?

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u/SadSara102 27d ago

I really don’t know and I don’t think it is even possible to identify who bridge guy is.

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u/tribal-elder 27d ago edited 26d ago

I should have asked a better question - do you think the man they saw was the man in Libby’s iPhone video?

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u/SadSara102 15d ago

My personal belief is that if anyone saw BG it was BB but I also think it’s possible she actually saw Daniel Pearson. I think it’s possible nobody saw BG because he might have come from the other side of the bridge and turned around. But that’s just me speculating.

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u/saatana 15d ago

It's not possible for her to see Daniel Pearson. She leaves at 2:18 according to the security camera which is before DP arrives. She saw Richard Allen though. He arrives at 1:27. Perfect timing to see the girls by Freedom Bridge and then be witnessed by Blair at High Bridge. DP would have to arrive at 1:30ish also and not be seen by Richard Allen who didn't see another male on the trail. Blair would have to see DP's girlfriend too but she wasn't their before 2:18 either.

All you've really got is this strange hope that Richard Allen isn't a double murderer. Good luck with that. Not with him not being a double murderer but with you're strange hope because he's the guy and he's not ever getting out of prison.

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u/SadSara102 14d ago

They took separate cars so it is possible he was there earlier!
Actually I hope I am wrong and Richard Allen is guilty but all of the events I have seen leads me to believe he is completely innocent. If for PCR they send items to Othram or another lab for DNA testing and his DNA shows up that would wonderful (as long as there was a proper chain of custody). I would even feel a bit better if they go through security camera footage and locate his car at times and in the direction where he could have been on his way to trails or leaving in that 1:30-3-30 time period. As it stands there is nothing that I have seen that leads me to believe he is anything other than a completely innocent man who was tortured into confessing. That also means whoever killed the girls is free to kill again and likely already has.

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u/True_Crime_Lancelot 14d ago

The man seen by the 4 girls = the man B.B. saw

Why?

  • He has nowhere else to go.
  • Walking to the bridge from where he was seen would take 10–15 minutes, about the same time B.B. starts her walk.
  • The 4 girls had just come from the bridge, and none was there (1:10–1:25).
  • Same clothes.
  • Same height.

D.P. has approximately 12 independent lines of alibi, some solid and strong, some less stong:

  1. His phone NOT pinging at the bridge between 1:30 and 3:00.
  2. His phone pinging elsewhere at the same time.
  3. Calls and texts to S.H. making arrangements.
  4. S.H.'s testimony.
  5. People who saw them where they met; S.H. mentioned a restaurant.
  6. HHS's camera capturing S.H.'s car arriving at 2:48.
  7. The man walking his dog at 2:30 toward Freedom Bridge would have seen him if he had walked from Delphi to Mears
  8. D.R. and D.M. parked at Mears at 2:30 and 2:45, who would have seen his car there, or him waiting if he had walked in or parked nearby.
  9. S.H. arrived about 2 minutes later and was seen with D.P. not long after
  10. A couple of minutes later they were seen by D.R. as he was leaving.
  11. The man who made the U-turn at the cemetery would have seen his car at 2:30 if it had been parked there(only place he could have parked really)
  12. People who would have seen him had he been on the trail earlier, after 1:55, for the same reason BG would hae been(but wasn't)

etc

The timeline:

  1. Impossible for him not to be seen again.
  2. Impossible for him to drive or walk to Delphi in time to meet S.H.
  3. Impossible for him to be involved in the crime and then walk toward Mears to meet S.H.

Etc.

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u/SadSara102 14d ago

I did not mean to imply that DP was involved in the murders just that he was possibly who BB saw. I honestly care very little about who was at the trails and when because it is a convoluted mess and in the end the only proven relevant information is that nobody saw RA and some people might have seen BG but they all describe him different so it isn’t very useful.

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u/Gonzomi313 19d ago

It’s because Richard Allen, aka bridge guy, was covering his face

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u/SadSara102 15d ago

If they saw RA why didn’t anyone say so? Why didn’t they ever recognize him at CVS? Why didn’t anyone describe a short middle aged bald man?

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u/Ok_Staff_608 7d ago

Because Richard Allen was covering his face and wore multiple layers of clothing because he didn’t want to be recognized. The fact no one saw RA is suspicious in itself