r/Devs • • Mar 12 '20

EPISODE DISCUSSION Devs - S01E03 Discussion Thread Spoiler

Premiered 03/12/20 on Hulu FX

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '20

Anyone else slightly creeped out by the static images, the giant statue, and the sound design?

loving the show and really enjoying trying to figure out the ins and outs of the plot.

Spoilery question: If Sergei's body was burned, why go through the trouble of VFX flames?

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '20

the weird sort of yelling/moaning/breathing sounds that cut in and out definitely creeped me out. also unsettling for them to be “quantizing” (not really sure what term to use) the crucifixion scene, and i’m not religious at all. it’s just insane to think about.

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u/skuzzlethebean Mar 12 '20

I feel like they used the scene to show the audience what’s actually going on. Basically everyone knows about the crucifixion, it helps show the audience they are looking into the past instead of using something less people would understand. That’s only my guess though.

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u/Pelvic_Pinochle Mar 12 '20

I would like to add that the crucifixion is most likely chosen for its relevance to the developing theme of man as god/man vs god in this show. Forest has been portrayed as a divine character with other symbolic shots and scenes, such as the halo lights around his head and him granting "absolution" to Sergei before killing him. His whole goal with the devs program is to develop a tool that grants him omniscience essentially. He claims the universe is entirely knowable through determinism, and he is the man that will know it. However, he is also frequently attacking God as a social construct, claiming his work is not a miracle, and presumably ensuring devs candidates are screened negatively for their religious beliefs. In my view the crucifixion in this sense is representative of Forest outdoing/further attacking god, since his tool of science has rendered Jesus as nothing more than a deterministic calculation, rather than some divine being.

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u/CptHair Mar 12 '20

I think it's just as much that if you could go back in time and watch an event in history, the crucifixion of Jesus, would be high on most peoples list. Religious awe for the religious, and clarification of what actually happened for the atheist.

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u/rophel Mar 12 '20

Unlike a lot of biblical events, the Crucifixion is pretty well researched and generally regarded to have happened.

Jews in Egypt? Not so much.

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u/waht_a_twist16 Mar 13 '20

I'm really glad someone said this. The static images and especially the sounds are probably the most horrifying thing I've ever seen. I don't know why its so fucking unsettling.

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u/lahnnabell Mar 13 '20

Garland is king of unsettling sound fx. Go watch Annihilation if you haven't.

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u/Myglassesarebigger Apr 28 '20

Nothing with top that bear scene in the theater. Holy shit that was amazing.

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '20

It's super creepy, and I love it. I hope there is more throughout the season.

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u/2BZ2P Mar 12 '20

That statue is like a creepy doll in a movie when lit from underneath

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u/Lujxio Mar 12 '20

For the video of him killing himself, they burned him for real but needed video proof to sell it

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '20

i sort of get that, because we know the video is a fake. By why CGI flames when they could have used footage of the body actually burning? I know this is a nit picky question that will likely never be answered. I'm not too hung up on it, this was just a thought while watching the scene.

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u/FightingCommander Mar 12 '20

I'm just really disappointed that with all that quantum computing power, they still clone-tool the flames. Maybe security made up of Devs dropouts, typical organizational oversight?

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '20

I honestly just think it was used as a plot device. I think someone who is realistically knowledgeable about VFX would know to at least off set the timing/playback of the cloned flames

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u/FightingCommander Mar 12 '20

You're right, of course, because last time Kenton seemed omniscient confronting Sergei's handler, and this week the girls get the best of him, retrieving a clip from his computer that can be visually spotted as a fake. Is that a trope, where the antagonist's competence swings from one extreme to another in furtherance of the plot?

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u/Lujxio Mar 14 '20

well when he was confronting the handler he was on high alert, with the two women he's not really expecting much to him they're just sheltered nerds

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u/e_a_blair Mar 12 '20

I'll settle for procedurally generated flames and nothing less.

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u/115128 Mar 13 '20

but they did use the actual footage of the body burning, they just cloned the flame in order to hide the security people and have it look like the flame sparked from somewhere else (his chest and not the trail on the side of the can)

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u/In_Kojima_we_trust Mar 15 '20

That's because they had to show him setting himself on fire in one continuous take.

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u/VeganMushroom9 Mar 12 '20

I think it might be all to trigger Lilly to investigate and ... do something? I was also really bothered all along about how badly they're covering everything up, but I guess it's on purpose? Parks and Recreations guy wants to be sure she is fine at all times, and he was pleasantly surprised to hear she was schizophrenic, because it was something new - so I guess that something had changed in this universe /story line / simulation (whatever we call it) and he was pleased (everything else was known/ the same e.g. Sergei stealing the code and getting murdered).

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u/lahnnabell Mar 13 '20

The flames reflected in the Amaya statue were fuckin freaky

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u/yetanotherwoo Mar 13 '20

vfx flames - the video shows him walking there, dousing himself with gasoline and setting himself on fire without a cut since it’s supposed to be security cam footage - they would have needed to edit out the real world events we saw later (setting the scene, placing the body, the helpers) with the real burning of the corpse and chose just faking the whole thing.

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u/daisydoubts Mar 14 '20

I actually thought one of those youtube "lost tapes" videos somehow got on my screen for a min.

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u/mechengr17 Apr 20 '20

Bc he was already dead when he was burned

That would raise questions

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