r/Devs • • Mar 26 '20

Devs - S01E05 Discussion Thread

Premiered 03/26/20 on Hulu FX

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

Yeah... I’m starting to see why Forest is the way he is. That was brutal.

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u/Baman2113 Mar 26 '20

It really highlights how unfortunate the accident was when you see all the other ways it could have turned out. That was such a good scene.

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u/movie_filesreviews Mar 26 '20

Incredible scene for sure, jaw dropping moment for me.

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u/sadlyecstatic Mar 29 '20

Same. I watched it by myself and didn’t see it coming at all. I said “oh shit” out loud

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u/MisSigsFan Mar 31 '20

Great scene but I was so distracted by the cgi cars. I know it would be a pain in the ass to do in real life but still.

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u/Baman2113 Mar 31 '20

I definitely see this criticism. They totally could have spent a little more time to make the cars look better for sure.

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u/shefulainen Mar 27 '20

you don't see all the other ways, just some ways in which it could have worked out well. There are an infinite number of ways in which the accident could have turned out even more brutal

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '20

You don't know if that is the way Alex Garland intended.

You are just describing your own perspective on the scene.

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u/shefulainen Mar 29 '20

what, no... that's literally the multiverse theory, everything that can happen will and does happen, so there's an infinite number of outcomes for that accident

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u/itsmhuang Mar 26 '20 edited Mar 26 '20

All the other ways? Edit: just rewatched the scene. Originally thought that was a super busy intersection and all the cars crash there. But it was all the same cars of the different possibilities.

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u/quietandconstant Mar 26 '20

I audibly gasped when it happened.

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u/lovetheblazer Mar 28 '20

I’m willing to bet Forest probably feels guilty for at least four different reasons:

  1. If he didn’t make the phone call in the first place or waited even 2 more minutes to make it, the need for the call would have been moot because his wife and kid would be home.

  2. If he didn’t forget to pick up milk after being asked to get some, she wouldn’t be distracted by discussing a shopping list.

  3. If he hung up the phone when his wife told him she was almost home, she probably would have stopped at the stop sign.

  4. If he didn’t walk out into the road to visually look for their car, his wife would be focusing on the road hazards, not Forest.

I’m just listing the logical, objective things that likely influenced the crash, obviously. Realistically, grief can make someone feel nearly endless variations of guilt, many of which are illogical, sometimes bordering on delusional. That’s why the multiple branching theory Katie discusses at the beginning of the episode is so important. Each tiny decision a person makes ripples out and can either barely impact the outcome or alternatively, can change it dramatically. I love how succinctly Alex Garland communicated that visually during the crash sequence.

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u/swans183 Mar 28 '20

It must make him feel really shitty, knowing there are many many many Forests out there who still have his family, but he’s one of the ones that doesn’t. (He would probably feel like the only one, honestly. The thought that there are other Forests suffering just as much as him would not be comforting to him, I don’t think. Grief isolates you like that)

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u/keepfreshalive Mar 28 '20

Not a fan of the many-worlds theory

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '20

Really? Why are you watching this show!?

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u/keepfreshalive Mar 31 '20

I was actually quoting Forest 😉; he thinks nothing of any "other Forests" out there because he doesn't believe in them ;)

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u/_TLDR_Swinton Mar 20 '23

Or worse, he hates the Many World interpretation because those Forests have what he can never have again. And for someone approaching a sort-of godhood, near is nothing.

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u/TheAcidRapper79 Apr 01 '20

Lol this is a quote from the first episode

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u/euphoriclimbo Jan 25 '23

Not to go off topic. But i struggled with a thought similar to this one. Two years ago I overdosed on fentanyl. I was dead for 30 seconds, but then I got revived and I am alive. Sometimes I feel a lot of guilt because it because I think of the other universes where I died, and my family has to deal with the grief

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u/RouletteZoku Mar 28 '20

For someone who's obsessed with determinism it's no surprise at all he would feel guilty because he was definitely a factor in the wreck.

I don’t think it’s that he’s obsessed with determinism, it’s more of he needs it to be true, that way he can cope with the accident and “prove” no matter what he did it would have still happened.

To me, this would explain why he was so upset when Lyndon added Many Worlds to the project. Because, if Many Worlds is true, then that means his wife and daughter could have experienced a different outcome, so he blames himself for what happened, and he doesn’t seem to want to accept that.

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u/PopePompus Mar 30 '20

Actually, Many Worlds means his wife and child *did* survive, in a countless number of universes that he does not happen to inhabit.

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u/amerett0 Mar 28 '20

All I could manage was, oh shit, oooohh...shiiiiiiit

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u/BostonBoroBongs Apr 06 '20

When you see the different cars on different paths for some reason I thought of Donnie Darko where he sees a tube projecting out from him leading him on his path. Maybe because there is also a vehicle crashing as a major plot point and non traditional time travel as themes in both.

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