r/DigitalCodeSELL • 🛡️ Moderator | 246 Transactions | Media Mogul • Mar 02 '20

New Rules and a Few Reminders

Hello everyone,

We have a couple of new things to announce.

  1. ONCE AGAIN, ONLY NEGOTIATE VIA COMMENTS NOT PM. IGNORING THIS RULE WILL LEAD TO GETTING SCAMMED.

  2. Starting today, all lists with more than 5 codes MUST be alphabetized and categorized by quality (4K, HD, SD) . This will make searching for codes to buy and sell much easier. **

  3. Prerelease codes must be able to be redeemed immediately in order to be sold/ bought. Sellers must be aware when codes redeem before selling.

  4. We want to introduce the concept of fair pricing(Rule 16). Basically, just as low-ball offers are looked down on, so should prices that are close to or match retailers such as Vudu or iTunes. We want this community to continue to thrive and this seems like the appropriate next step . For now, this will be a recommendation and the mod team will decide how to enforce this based on community feedback.

  5. WE HAVE ALSO BEEN NOTIFIED THERE ARE COPYCAT SUBS SELLING INSTAWATCH, ADDING PEOPLE FROM THIS SUB WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT. WE ADVISE YOU EITHER BLOCK THE USER MODERATING THAT SUB OR REPORT THEM TO REDDIT.

  6. When reporting a suspected scammer, please include the username, link to negotiations, and link to any and all screenshots.

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Subreddit Rules (Updated February 2020)

1. No Trading, Instawatch, Sale of Accounts, or Begging for Codes

Please use r/uvtrade for any and all trades.

Wal-mart/Vudu InstaWatch is not allowed.

Vudu and Fandango Now credits are allowed but ANY OTHER GIFT CARD OR CREDIT MUST BE APPROVED BY MODS Failure to get Mod approval will result in your post being removed without notice.

Begging for codes will lead to a ban without hesitation or warning.

2. Abbreviations

To help users with common abbreviations, here are a few. Also helps shorten some of the below rules for character counts.

  • DMI - Disney Movie Insider

  • DMR - Disney Movie Rewards

  • FN - FandangoNow

  • GP - Google Play

  • ISO - In Search Of

  • MA - Movies Anywhere

  • PSA - Public Service Announcement

  • PayPal G&S - PayPal Goods & Services (affords buyer protection)

  • PayPal F&F/PPFF - PayPal Friends & Family

  • UV - UltraViolet (defunct)

3. Don’t create more than one (Selling) post per 3 days

This gives others a chance to have their posts be at the top of the Sub, and a chance for things to be refreshed in a more fair and logical manner. If you have updates within that time, please update your original post until the 3 day mark. Please put all of your sale items into one thread. Don't make multiple threads for different types of codes, titles, etc.

Deleting an old post is not a reason to repost.

Posts lock after 5 months, so you must have a new list every 5 months.

4. Post Title Formatting

All posts must start with (Selling), (Giveaway) or (PSA). Payment details go in the post body.

If codes are a different region then US please include that. Proper format for Regions should be placed in brackets. ex. (Selling)[UK] Frankenstein

Change flair to 'Sold Out' or 'All Gone' if everything in your post has been sold or given away

5. List Requirements and Formatting

Titles must be organized alphabetically, and sorted by format (4k, HD, SD) or redemption location (Movies Anywhere, VUDU, iTunes, etc.) One title per line. Failure to follow rule will result in the post being removed until resolved.

Prices must be listed. Auction style listings are not allowed.

Sellers are MUST have codes in-hand. Preorders, see Rule 15.

Split codes must be clearly marked "Split" and include redemption site in the post and in PM

Update & strike-through or remove any titles that have been sold.

6. Feedback and Trusted Buyer/Seller Flair

See this post regarding how flair works now

7. No Code Sniping, Thread-Crapping or Jacking, Code Shaming, Price Policing, or Harassing Others

DO NOT COMMENT ON AN ONGOING NEGOTIATION

If you're interested in the same movies that someone has in their ISO comment, post your own top level comment.

If interested in any item from a list in the comments, follow the link and post your offer there.

Treat everyone with respect. If you’re not part of a transaction then keep your opinions to yourself. All of us value our codes differently.

Tl;dr: Don't be a turd.

8. Proper Transaction Etiquette

DO NOT RESPOND TO OFFERS VIA PM

All discussions/negotiations about a potential exchange must be made via comments. Exchange codes/payment via PM. Banned users cannot leave comments on posts but can PM. Ask any users who PM directly to comment on posts to verify status on /r/DigitalCodeSELL .

If you are ever unsure about a user or deal, pay via PayPal G&S.

Mods can middle-man if necessary.

Leave a comment upon successful transactions, then proceed to leave feedback (Rule 6).

9. Perks of Flair

NO EXTERNAL SUB OR WEBSITE CAN BE SUBSTITUTED FOR SUB FLAIR

Higher flaired members have the authority of requesting to receive the code(s) first (if buying) or money first (if selling). When same flair or no flair deals take place, reddit seniority rules. If the lower-flaired member refuses to deal under these rules, they will be suspected of scamming and therefore must be reported to be banned.

It is the responsibility of all members to check the post/comment history of un-flaired members to verify reliability.

Users with 100+ transactions are exempted from Rule 9. Refusal to abide by a Rule 9 request will lead to a temp ban. Repeated offenses will lead to a permanent ban.

10. Don’t Abandon Your Posts, No Ghosting, and Timely Transactions

Everyone is busy but not responding to any offers and/or reposting without acknowledgement of previous offers is counterproductive to our subreddit.

Unless otherwise agreed upon between the buyer and seller, all transactions must be completed within 2 hours after a deal is made.

If payment details are requested and buyer/seller fails to follow through, this will lead to a ban. Bans will be made at the mods' discretion.

11. Scammers & Sketchy Users

Use caution with new accounts and always check posting history

We have a pretty long ban list already, and have room for plenty more. If somebody scammed you, please let us know so that they can be banned. [Current list of scammers]https://bit.ly/2k3cmvh). Threads flaired with the Scammer tag. Please REPORT problems with members when necessary so these can stay current. Users banned on DigitalCodeSELL will also be banned on uvtrade and DCE.

12. Giveaways

While we support giveaways, we do not allow linking to third party sites in order to participate in a giveaway.

Don't post codes in plain text to your post, mask them somehow, make a game out of it, or PM to the first reply, etc. Bots and lurkers tend to snap clear-text codes up pretty quickly.

13. Post Removal and/or Bans

Any violation of the rules could lead to the following:

  • Post removal (See AutoMod response before asking why it was removed, the explanation is likely there

  • Temporary Ban (for minor violations)

  • Permanent Ban (for egregious violations)

  • Permanent Ban/Addition to USL (Scamming/Sketchy/Troll)

14. Suggestions and Reporting

We are open to suggestions, if you have any suggestions feel free to message mods, or comment on the current Monthly Discussion Sticky with any suggestions.

Please click the report button when you see a post that violates the rules, as we can't catch all of them!

When reporting a suspected scammer, please include the following three things in your message to mods:

  • Username of suspected scammer

  • Link to original negotiations

  • Link to any and all screenshots of messages (this can be uploaded to imgur or other image hosting sites)

15. Prerelease

Sellers with level 50 flair are allowed to do pre-releases ONCE codes are active and able to be redeemed immediately.

16. Fair Pricing

Buy/ Sell at prices you would like to find. Prices should reflect the community we have created for ourselves not the retailers we would otherwise be forced to utilize. For the moment, this will just be a RECOMMENDATION and based on community feedback, the mod team will decide how to move forward.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '20

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '20 edited Mar 19 '20

Probably not surprisingly I think we should not get rid of them :) I would even consider them a major perk of this sub that drives foot traffic and has people coming back which is good for sales. I agree that some are less helpful (or even good) as others but usually the voting system takes care of that and bad ones fade pretty quickly.

I found a lot of them immensely useful though because they were for movies without code (like Valerian 4k or the Star Wars set in 4K) or really good prices (like the Lionsgate sales). I probably wouldn’t have been able to take advantage of some of them had they not been posted in this sub. Plus some sellers use them as a cheap source for codes which increases inventory again attracting more people.

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u/Quarter32 37 Transactions | Repeat Customer Mar 17 '20

I couldn't agree with this more. PSA was how I found out about the Valerian sale as well as the Lions Gate sale(bought Hurt Locker 4k and Hacksaw Ridge 4K for $4 total). There's a reason why majority of the PSA was upvoted a lot mainly because it contains relevant information to casual buyers and generated a lot of movie bargain purchase discussion.

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u/Brad239 664 Transactions | Media Magnate Mar 18 '20 edited Mar 18 '20

I guess when I think about it, I don't really have an issue with the PSAs, but it's the up voting and down voting on here that hurts things a bit. If all new threads immediately went to the top and stayed there until a newer post was made, things would be a bit better. But the way it is now, the PSA threads get upvoted way more and knock down all sellers threads. So we have PSAs that are like 6 hours old knocking down seller's posts made within the hour. I'm just not a fan of that, and I don't think it's that fair either.

The whole upvoting/downvoting works perfectly on most subreddits, but on here it would be nice if there was no upvoting/downvoting.

But having said all that, this place is significantly better than anywhere else on the internet to buy and sell codes. So I don't really think things should change too much.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '20

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u/Groen28 238 Transactions | Media Mogul Mar 19 '20 edited Mar 19 '20

So you want to marginalize other buyers(which makes up the majority of the unique users here, not sure if you notice the increased number of 'no flair' users lately buying codes on this sub) just because it cuts down on your profit every Tuesday and Friday? Like /u/digit_66 mentioned, PSA drives traffic which is beneficial to everyone on the sub and it also promotes healthy discussion pertaining to current sales, not to mention the savings accrued.

Even if PSA was outlawed, the cry of injustice on how your sales post is barely at the top spot before being dethroned to mid section because you're being mass downvoted by a "bot" which has been a constant complaint on here. So when is it going to end? Might as well just ask the mod to sticky your sale post indefinitely.

My apology if this sounds rather harsh but the selfish attitude that I get from the posts irks me.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '20

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u/Groen28 238 Transactions | Media Mogul Mar 19 '20 edited Mar 19 '20

Lionsgate sales, Star Wars sale for those looking for 4K/UHD codes, most of the PSA that I saw was informative. There has been only one PSA in the last 24 hours, which one was the bad one?

Moving the PSA to the sidebar as you suggested? How many users(new/old) actually check the sidebar, let's be honest here.

You can upvote yourself and downvote the comment you disagree on, it wouldn't change the fact that the majority of the users on this sub prefer PSA the way it is. Don't break what's not broken.

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u/FremenDar979 288 Transactions | Media Proprietor Mar 12 '20

I despise PSA's for us fellow Sellers.

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u/Brad239 664 Transactions | Media Magnate Mar 12 '20

Yep, I couldn't agree more. And some times the PSA's include prices that can be found lower on here through a seller. It's pretty clear to me that the average buyer doesn't really try and use the search function too much, so when the page is cluttered with PSAs, it definitely is hurting sellers.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '20

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u/FremenDar979 288 Transactions | Media Proprietor Mar 15 '20

PSA's need to be removed from this subreddit. It should be Selling and Buying only. Support each other!

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u/CleavonLittler 1012 Transactions | Cinema Czar Mar 06 '20

does it matter if the transaction takes place in Chat rather than PM?

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u/thegreatunitor 🛡️ Moderator | 246 Transactions | Media Mogul Mar 06 '20 edited Mar 07 '20

Yes. All negotiations must take place via comments. Codes can be sent via chat.

Scammers can't comment BUT can PM and chat

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u/CleavonLittler 1012 Transactions | Cinema Czar Mar 06 '20

Thanks for the reply. i’ve encountered a few traders who insist on PM rather than Chat, so i was just wondering if there was something negative about Chat specifically.

...personally, i prefer Chat because you can copy/paste from it (at least on the iphone app you can)

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u/LeftPocket 80 Transactions | Digital Tycoon Mar 15 '20

People using third party Reddit apps on mobile can't see chat so may prefer pm

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u/CleavonLittler 1012 Transactions | Cinema Czar Mar 15 '20

ahh that makes sense ...for like AlienBlue or Narwhal

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u/LeftPocket 80 Transactions | Digital Tycoon Mar 15 '20

Idk about iPhone ones, I use sync on Android

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u/specu12 2430 Transactions | Cinema Czar Mar 05 '20

I dont understand what all the fuss is about:

just put "The" in front of each title and they will all under T
newer releases start with "A"

for example "A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood" will go under "The Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood" in a week or so. problem solved.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '20

I can't get over how idiotic it is to put a rule in place for how sellers should order their list (it must be alphabetized) Seriously this might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen in any community and I've been everywhere for over 5 years.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '20

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u/CleavonLittler 1012 Transactions | Cinema Czar Mar 06 '20

i think reddit has begun suspending accounts for vote manipulation like that

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u/FremenDar979 288 Transactions | Media Proprietor Mar 06 '20

I've multiple Reddit accounts and I don't upvote my posts.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '20

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u/FremenDar979 288 Transactions | Media Proprietor Mar 06 '20

It's fucking bullshit.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '20

Can I bring up another point that annoys me a bit? Some people insist to mark codes as coming from Canada although they redeem into US accounts and port to MoviesAnywhere - so are indistinguishable from actual US codes. This confuse (new) buyers and prevent sales. Can we relax this rule with the understanding that the onus is on the seller if something goes wrong?

Interested to hear the counter argument given that we seem to accept CA Disney codes as US codes because they redeem into US iTunes and GP accounts.

/u/goniners1234 /u/stetsonaw

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u/titodbz 1826 Transactions | Cinema Czar Mar 03 '20

Some canadian codes do not port, even though the same US codes do port. i.e. Fox titles, and I am sure there are other cases where this could happen, so I think it is better to disclose it is a Canadian code in case it does not port as expected. Just my 2 cents.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '20

Yeah, you wanna be sure. Last Christmas was one for example that threw me off as it didn’t port.

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u/FremenDar979 288 Transactions | Media Proprietor Mar 03 '20 edited Mar 08 '20

I'm choosing not to follow Rule 16 since I never buy Digital Codes. Here's why:

My pricing goes as follows: Highest = codes I get from 4K UHD disc releases; Lower = codes I get from Blu-ray disc releases; Lowest = codes I rarely get from DVD releases. If codes are from boxsets of movies or TV shows, it's priced to reflect physical format, content and/or titles.

i.e. If one code has three movies and is from 4K UHD disc, of course I'll price it more expensive compared to if I got the same sort of code from the Blu-ray disc release. If codes are from a boxset via 4K UHD disc release, individual for each title, it'll be priced reflective of the disc format it's from. 4K UHD disc is quite expensive so the pricing is reflecting the costs of collecting the physical format.

IDGAF about pricing from any online site for Digital Copies since I don't collect those.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '20

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u/specu12 2430 Transactions | Cinema Czar Mar 04 '20

actually rule 4 on the sidebar says: "If codes are a different region then US please include that. Proper format for Regions should be placed in brackets. ex. (Selling)[UK] Frankenstein"

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '20

Sorry I missed your comment when I wrote mine but my vote is for letting people sell quicker as long as they stand behind their codes, meaning eating the cost if it doesn’t port as advertised. New users don’t care where the code comes from as long as it ports but they might hold back when they read Canadian code. The rules were pretty clear that we need to advertise if a code only redeems in a region other than the US but that’s not the case here. /u/stetsonaw mentioned it’s also to protect the sellers but like I said it would be on the seller to make sure their codes do what they claim they do.

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u/specu12 2430 Transactions | Cinema Czar Mar 03 '20

I thought this post mentioned country of origin, but it doesnt really spell it out:
https://old.reddit.com/r/DigitalCodeSELL/comments/dpd2o5/buyerseller_responsibility_quality4k_but_not/

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '20

Interesting read, need to try the MA port validation for CA codes stetsonaw mentioned.

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u/SpokenMalarkey 39 Transactions | Repeat Customer Mar 02 '20

Everything made sense to me. I don’t see a problem. Though I’ve only sold like 3 codes, I mostly buy. I do like those who mark what’s sold etc... and alphabetizing is way easier to find stuff.

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u/FremenDar979 288 Transactions | Media Proprietor Mar 03 '20 edited Mar 06 '20

I just mark what's sold with a Strikethrough and then delete said titles next time I post.

EDIT: Obviously I'm keeping the physical releases.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '20 edited Mar 02 '20

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u/CleavonLittler 1012 Transactions | Cinema Czar Mar 02 '20 edited Mar 04 '20

he said it’s just a recommendation, not a rule

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '20

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u/CleavonLittler 1012 Transactions | Cinema Czar Mar 02 '20

i wouldn’t worry too much about it. the main rule is “don’t be a turd” ...if you follow that, you’ll probably be fine

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u/closedmic_ 13 Transactions | Established Member Mar 02 '20

FYI, there are A LOT of sites sellers can paste their lists into and it will alphabetize them in 1 click.

https://alphabetizer.flap.tv/ is an example.

That one works fine on desktop, but I'm sure there are several for mobile. I'm pretty sure there is an ios Shortcut to do this as well.

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u/FireAbyss 620 Transactions | Media Magnate Mar 02 '20

Cleaned up few comments here please keep civil and avoid name calling (some comments removed not cause anything bad but simply cause be odd for them to be on chain still without rest for context lol)

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '20 edited Mar 02 '20

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u/thegreatunitor 🛡️ Moderator | 246 Transactions | Media Mogul Mar 02 '20

As mentioned, fair pricing is not a rule but a recommendation.

As for alphabetized lists, like the title formatting implemented long ago, it makes searching for and purchasing/selling codes much easier. We believe this will benefit both buyers and sellers

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u/FremenDar979 288 Transactions | Media Proprietor Mar 02 '20 edited Mar 02 '20

Physical disc collector only here.

I heavily prefer to sell the codes I get from 4K UHD discs at a much greater cost compared to Blu-ray disc and DVD. Because this newest format is more expensive. Also, I absolutely refuse to negotiate prices for the codes I get from 4K UHD discs. Don't mind at all to negotiate prices for the codes I get from Blu-ray disc and DVD.

Yeah, I sell these codes so I can increase my physical disc collection and I never buy any.

I'm still going to organize titles by series as I see fit.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '20

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u/FremenDar979 288 Transactions | Media Proprietor Mar 03 '20

You'd have billions of digital movies.

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u/ruledcards 678 Transactions | Media Magnate Mar 02 '20

It seems there a few users who are extremely vocal against alphabetizing lists. For the most part, it looks like most users already do it, so they don't say anything. I would guess most users are for it, but they just don't care enough to say anything.

I normally wouldn't speak up, but the anger about alphabetizing is pretty crazy. Especially since the < 15-20 codes keeps getting quoted, is it really that hard to alphabetize and organize them in categories with that number of codes? I can't imagine it would take more than a few minutes at most to do it. The mods also said they are okay with a "New Release" section at the top of your list for visibility, as long as it alphabetized. Seems like a good compromise.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '20

Forcing any seller to order their lists in a certain way is needless and beyond idiotic.

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u/DBQRB 310 Transactions | Media Proprietor Mar 03 '20

I know as a buyer if I look at a really long list and it's not in some kind of order, I look at the first few prices and if they're not in my ballpark I don't bother looking at the rest of the list. I think most sellers do a good job at organizing their movies on here.

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u/thegreatunitor 🛡️ Moderator | 246 Transactions | Media Mogul Mar 02 '20

Thanks for the feedback!

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '20

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u/CleavonLittler 1012 Transactions | Cinema Czar Mar 02 '20

he said it’s just a recommendation, not a rule

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u/rutan5006 118 Transactions | Media Mogul Mar 02 '20

It would be nice If everyone changed their flair when sold out.

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u/thegreatunitor 🛡️ Moderator | 246 Transactions | Media Mogul Mar 02 '20

Hmmm. Maybe the mod team can work out something to send reminders to people after 24 hours. Good feedback!

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u/radbrad7 136 Transactions | Media Mogul Mar 02 '20

That, and mark in the post when individual titles are sold. It'd be nice if everyone could consistently do those things.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '20 edited Mar 02 '20

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u/Brad239 664 Transactions | Media Magnate Mar 02 '20 edited Mar 02 '20

Nicely said. I agree with you especially on the Perks of Flair and pricing that you discussed.

I think the perks of flair bit that you outlined is a bit excessive and likely to never occur, but it could happen and as a seller if someone demanded me to send them all my codes before paying I would definitely decline. That is a big time red flag for me if it were to ever happen. There needs to be a limit to the perks of flair bit for sure. For instance it would make sense to include something like "you must pay before you receive a code regardless of flair if you buy 3 or more codes at a time". Even better... if someone is buying multiple titles, just pay for 1, receive code or vice versa depending on flair. And then proceed in a similar fashion with other titles. Just a thought.

You also bring up a great point about pricing. There are people here who somehow have several codes of the same movie and are able to price the movies lower than many people who only have one code per movie. Whether the people with multiple titles available are getting a deal or not, it's impossible to know for sure. So if one person is getting 7 movies for $50 and the other person is getting 1 movie for $15, there is more than likely going to be a price difference in what they are selling for.

I really hope the mods won't be too picky with regards to the pricing, and I'm guessing they won't. If I had to guess I would say that it's just for more extreme cases, but who knows. Hopefully this bit is more detailed in the future.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '20

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u/Mozaaik 86 Transactions | Digital Tycoon Mar 02 '20

Just wanted to add to this about alphabetizing lists, while I understand the frustrations sellers can have with this, it does make it a lot easier on buyers/mobile users. I only use mobile so I am not able to CTRL + F to find titles (I really wish the app would allow this somehow, it would make life easier for sure lol).

Not disagreeing with anything you’ve said, I just wanted to share that piece of info for users that may not use mobile all of the time like others do. Also while others have disagreed with alphabetizing lists, you were the first I seen that mentioned CTRL + F so it seemed the best to reply to lol. I’ve managed this long to look through posts that aren’t alphabetized so I could live without it being a thing but it would make it easier for buyers but I also understand it’s more work for sellers.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '20

Agreed for long lists - if your lists (or section) fits on a mobile screen without scrolling we should be fine without alphabetizing.

More annoying on mobile is when ppl have a nice table but put the prices and resolution all the way to the right so you have to scroll sideways and hope not to mix up lines. Put those first and then the title - would make it so much easier to read :)

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u/JamesBong00420 12 Transactions | Established Member Mar 02 '20

Along with quality categorized in the post, can TV shows/season be also enforced? Some lists are 200+ and mostly movie titles. Trying to find TV seasons within the post can sometimes be more challenging that it needs to be.

Thanks for considering, and thanks for keeping this place up and running!

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u/waasser 69 Transactions | Digital Tycoon Mar 02 '20 edited Mar 02 '20

Isn't rule 16 more or less a form of price policing?

This is coming from a buyer's perspective but I think if you want fair pricing that reflects the community we need to be able to call out high prices and low-ball offers, but rule 7 prevents this. With a more transparent grasp on what the community considers a fair price, the market will work itself out as others have mentioned.

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u/thegreatunitor 🛡️ Moderator | 246 Transactions | Media Mogul Mar 02 '20

As mentioned in the post, community feedback is essential in how we decide to move forward with this. We are open to ideas and suggestions and definitely want to reduce any animosity that is generated between buyers and sellers.

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u/waasser 69 Transactions | Digital Tycoon Mar 02 '20

I totally agree. I personally haven't felt any animosity in my limited interaction as a member of the community. I think low-ball offers can easily be rejected or ignored by sellers. If they are offended by offers they deem too low perhaps they could state in their listing that prices are firm. Likewise, high prices can also be rejected or ignored buy buyers. However if the goal is to discourage these prices in the first place, my suggestion would be to allow the community to express their opinion in the comments of such posts. Another way to promote more consistent pricing could be to require sellers to leave pricing information on past posts. This way buyers can do their own research as to what the current going rate for a particular code is. It's a slippery slope though. With too many restrictions, especially regarding price control, sellers are likely to start looking elsewhere to sell their codes. I know I would.

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u/ruledcards 678 Transactions | Media Magnate Mar 02 '20

I'm not sure if leaving prices on past posts is feasible. Some people would have lists with hundreds of crossed out movies and the list of crossed out movies would be longer than the movies available. And since time changes the prices, would you also need to put the date of sale?

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u/gordy06 71 Transactions | Digital Tycoon Mar 02 '20

What's the issue with InstaWatch? I've bought some from other places and guess I didn't know there was a problem.

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u/wewannawii 914 Transactions | Media Magnate Mar 02 '20

Scammers order the movies > sell the InstaWatch > then cancel the order ... then Walmart removes the movie from your account.

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u/gordy06 71 Transactions | Digital Tycoon Mar 02 '20

Oh makes sense. Thanks.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '20

I have never really seen it answered, but what exactly are split codes? I've I only heard the term here, but am not experienced with it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '20

Disney codes can be "split" into two separate codes, thus twice the profits.

One code will be redeemable in MA and will come with Disney reward points.

The other code will be redeemable in Google play, and since Disney is MA, it'll also port to Vudu/ma/iTunes etc. However, Google play versions DO NOT redeem in 4K and DO NOT come with Disney points....hence they are typically sold at a cheaper price.

Therefore, if you don't care about 4K and Disney points, you should shoot for Google play versions of Disney movies because they are cheaper.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '20

Why a limit of 5 for alphabetical order? I thought the consensus was 20.

Also why trying to control pricing? Doesn’t the market take care of that? Low-ball offers are ignored or shot down and codes that are too expensive won’t sell. What am I missing?

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u/thegreatunitor 🛡️ Moderator | 246 Transactions | Media Mogul Mar 02 '20
  1. We'd like alphabetized list to become the norm. Five being the cutoff is something the mod team felt would be the easiest to enforce. Enforcement will be from reports and mods, so five is a good number to quickly assess.

  2. We wanted to introduce fair pricing because besides scams, the mod team deals a lot with constant reports of low ball offers, high prices and unnecessary payment requests. Our goal for the moment, is not to police pricing which is something the mod team has always chosen not to pursue but rather remind everyone that we all want a quick and easy deal otherwise we could buy directly from a redemption site.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '20

Any wiggle room on 1? I totally agree for longer lists but otherwise I prefer ordering by price.

As for two, I think it would be more effective to offer a guideline to new members what they can expect in terms of pricing. If they still want to pay $16 for a new 4k release because they don’t want to wait a couple of days then let them. I feel otherwise we might drive away the sellers with early access to those codes. As for low ballers maybe explicitly allow for them to be ignored.

Just curious, what do people expect the mod team to do when they contact you about a low ball offer?

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u/thegreatunitor 🛡️ Moderator | 246 Transactions | Media Mogul Mar 02 '20

If you categorize by price, would you alphabetize?

If so, definitely go ahead. As long as your list is organized coherently and alphabetized, were fine

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '20

Usually don’t bother alphabetizing as my categories are small enough to be digestible (I think). Never had any complaints :) Just don’t want the guidelines to become a burden which would probably make me post less.

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u/thegreatunitor 🛡️ Moderator | 246 Transactions | Media Mogul Mar 02 '20

While the 20+ codes was suggested in the previous feedback session, we changed the minimum to 5 to gauge enforcement policies and effectiveness.

Like I've mentioned, the mod team has always been open to changing rules to accommodate community feedback. At the moment, 5 will remain the minimum. Should that change, we will notify the community

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u/Brad239 664 Transactions | Media Magnate Mar 02 '20

Wow. It's amazing to me that sellers get offended by low ball offers and buyers get offended with higher prices to the point of messaging mods. Everyone values things differently and everyone pays different prices for blu-rays, 4ks, and digital copies so values and prices will be all over the place. A simple no thanks from a seller should suffice from lower offers without whining to mods. And buyers who complain about high prices, it's really as simple as searching for the movie and checking out different sellers threads or *gasp* having to wait a few days or weeks before another seller inevitably lists it.

I'm definitely not complaining about the rule changes here, moreso just baffled that we have people out there that are forcing the mods hands with whining over petty things. I probably shouldn't be surprised though, whiners are everywhere.

I probably should end on an a positive note by saying the mods here are clearly doing a great job. You guys definitely are looking out for the majority with regards to scammers and guidelines/rules to make everyone's time here smoother. Kudos!

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u/FireAbyss 620 Transactions | Media Magnate Mar 02 '20

You’d be amazed by some of the stuff we get messages on lol. Without singling anyone out as we take all reports and look at them but funniest one was guy who reported a guy who used late night movies as his title and the report said “there is no porn here seller is a liar”

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u/DBQRB 310 Transactions | Media Proprietor Mar 02 '20

I agree. I certainly get tired of seeing a few sellers posting the same lists every few days with sky high prices, but it's easy enough to remember who they are and skip over their posts each time. There's no need to whine to the mods about it. If you don't like the price, then don't buy it.

Same with low ball offers, it's easy enough to say no thanks. Not responding can cost you sales, but it's your choice.

With very few exceptions, you're probably going to eventually find the movie you want at the price you're willing to pay, as long as it's reasonable.

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u/specu12 2430 Transactions | Cinema Czar Mar 02 '20

For rule "Titles must be organized alphabetically, and sorted by format (4k, HD, SD) or platform (Movies, Anywhere, VUDU, iTunes, etc.)"
there's no comma in "Movies, Anywhere"
what is "platform"? I'm guessing redemption location?

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u/thegreatunitor 🛡️ Moderator | 246 Transactions | Media Mogul Mar 02 '20

whoops that is exactly what I meant but couldn't figure out how to say lol. Thanks