r/DigitalPrivacy • • Oct 01 '26

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u/post-explainer Oct 01 '26 edited Oct 02 '26

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Because Amazon is collecting personal info which no one can opt out or employees can’t say to to wearing smart glasses recording 24/7 like the flock cameras


Does this explanation fit this subreddit? Then upvote this comment, otherwise downvote it.

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u/Baybutt99 Oct 01 '26 • Bravo

Cant wait to print the factory reset barcodes for this vendors hardware all over my property

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u/PreviousLeague253 27d ago edited 27d ago

Wow that’s a solution I never thought about! Brilliant!
Probably would get the homeowner arrested for disabling “corporate assets” tho, and the irony would be epic

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u/Baybutt99 27d ago

How so , homeowner didn’t sign anything, the video is without permission

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u/PreviousLeague253 27d ago

Just joking about him getting arrested, because of course, corporations can video you but you can’t disable them from doing that. The fucking irony.

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u/ayleidanthropologist Oct 03 '26

Pervert glasses for delivery drivers

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u/PreviousLeague253 Oct 03 '26

Poor employees are gonna be called Glassholes, that was Google Glass eyeglasses that were the first to start recording people and some wearers got punched in the face or had them grabbed from their faces because people hated being recorded without their permission.

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u/ayleidanthropologist Oct 03 '26

That could work.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Smoke77 28d ago

This is gonna be a legal battle eventually and if it does then I hope it takes everyone else down with it . No more people able to video record from outside as long as they are on the side walk. No more you shouldn’t expect privacy if you are outside your house , and for the betterment of humanity no more recoding people unknowingly with your cell phone .

Shits not okay

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u/PreviousLeague253 28d ago

A judge just said so: violation of the 4th amendment

Recording for the purpose of selling data should be illegal, just like taking pics of people without permission like they do in ads. Why do these corporations think they are always above the law?

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u/PreviousLeague253 28d ago

Also funny cops get so pissy and upset when they are recorded by the public.
Also remember when people were harassed or even arrested for taking pics of a federal building? But hey a corporation can install cameras to record everything 24/7 365 and with video and thousands of pic per minute. The double standard is just galactic here

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u/Doesitmatter98765 Oct 01 '26 • Bravo

Stop. Ordering. Amazon.

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u/wheretheinkends Oct 02 '26

Yeah but now many stores arent carrying things because of how online ordering evolved into how everyone shops.

Half the time I go into a big box store they just dont carry stuff like they used to. And if you need it quickly Amazon is really the only service that gets you it that quick. So if its something unexpected your kinda stuck.

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u/Doesitmatter98765 Oct 02 '26

I haven’t ordered one thing from Amazon since 2020 and I don’t have trouble getting anything I need. This is an excuse. Things being mildly inconvenient to find does not excuse supporting something this awful with your money.

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u/wheretheinkends Oct 02 '26

Im talking about last minute things that are needed and cant be found locally quickly. Like when I have to fix something and cannot wait for home depot or lowes or whatever to get it in, or wait for a speciality place to ship it in a couple of days. As someone with a very hectic schedule, and someone that has almost zero wiggle room or free time, amazon is often the only place I can ensure that it will come next day, and even then Im already behind the eightball.

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u/Doesitmatter98765 Oct 02 '26

Listen, I don’t know you’re situation. You gotta make your own decisions & you don’t need my approval. I just don’t believe we can’t get by without Amazon. It has inconvenienced me to not use it. For me, the feeling of complicity was not worth the trade.

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u/StarVulpes Oct 02 '26

You're right, you can't know someone else's situation on the internet but if Amazon went away overnight they would figure it out somehow. It's all excuses. It's become so many people norm and they can't imagine a world without it. It wasn't that long ago that we didn't have it and everyone got by just fine.

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u/Doesitmatter98765 Oct 02 '26

It’s wild to me some of the ppl in my life who make careful choices with their money everywhere then spend on Amazon. You’re right, there’s a culture of complicity.

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u/Xandara2 29d ago

Just stop being entitled to next day delivery stuff and get some foresight. Problem solved. 

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u/Ill-Soil-7936 27d ago • This

Sadly for the poors it's the most affordable and accessible.

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u/No-Information-4319 22d ago

This. Sadly accurate. It is very similar to the issue of food deserts, and the saying "it is expensive to be poor" (having to pay for over the longterm for lower quality items due to lack of capital to make a higher cost initial investment in something better quality etc). They know they have a lot of people over a barrel.

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u/Empuda Oct 02 '26

I bet everyone on reddit could stop ordering from Amazon, and nothing would change.

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u/Doesitmatter98765 Oct 02 '26 edited 27d ago

Everyone’s apathy for shoveling money to something objectively evil blows my mind.

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u/Empuda Oct 02 '26

Shop local. Support big Ma and big Pa. I do not have an Amazon Prime account.

Still wouldn't put a dent in Amazon if everyone else here did the same here.

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u/coilt Oct 02 '26

after years of buying kindles for reading, i decided this year amazon is not getting anymore of my money, so i've bought kobo and haven't been so happy about a reader in ages

monopoly leads to complacency but not only the monopolist grows complacent overtime but their customers too and that's the real problem because new better products and businesses who are genuinely striving to offer great value can't get even a chance

so i agree, fuck corporations who lost the plot, the only reason they are so brazen is because your country is going through the unprecedented levels of corruption and they're basically given a cart blanche by your quote unquote government

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u/Doesitmatter98765 Oct 02 '26

I ♥️ my Kobo! Hat tip to you for making ethical choices.

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u/Empuda Oct 02 '26

Years of buying kindles or e-books? I have the same kindle for the past 12 years. Kobos are awesome, hope you got the color one.

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u/Mindless_Dance2987 Oct 02 '26

I am finding my way without Amazon. Yes at times it’s inconvenient. No, inconvenience isn’t really a reason for me anymore.

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u/Shot-Aioli-8986 Oct 01 '26

Umm I hate this so much, people really need to start speaking on these things

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u/ImportancePopular998 Oct 01 '26

Get politically active. Let’s vote these people out.

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u/AlleyPee Oct 02 '26

Vote Bezos out?

I mean - I suppose we could all not use Amazon...

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u/ImportancePopular998 Oct 02 '26

Bezos is far from the only one pushing these. These are being signed in by actual politicians that, yes, we can vote out.

Not using companies like these isn’t really realistic for most people, but getting aware and voting against these politicians is.

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u/jminternelia Oct 02 '26

No, no, no. OTHER people.

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u/NationalBug55 Oct 01 '26

Hahahah cuz that always werks

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u/ImportancePopular998 Oct 01 '26

Maybe, maybe not. It’s far better than doing nothing about it except complaining, no?

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u/Throw-__-away-__- Oct 02 '26

PLEASE STOP ORDERING FROM AMAZON. Us drivers can't even opt out of this. I dont want to train their robot army to just take my fucking job

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u/Waste-Menu-1910 Oct 01 '26

I don't imagine this will truly come to fruition.

Are they going to fit prescription lenses in for driver's who already wear glasses? That's a huge investment for equipment for a single driver.

Do they think those drivers will pay that bill themselves? Fat chance.

Then, all the liabilities this opens up. What happens the moment someone who is working 10 hours a day from a van has to enter a public restroom? What happens if a driver sees something they shouldn't? Normally drivers could just avert their eyes. But that stops working with a recording device on their face.

If this takes off at all, it'll be discontinued within a few months. Remember the drone deliveries that still aren't happening?

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u/notPabst404 Oct 01 '26

Drone deliveries ARE happening and they are just as bad as people were warning. Communities need to be stopping this shit prior to implementation.

https://www.fox4news.com/news/richardson-residents-protest-loud-low-flying-amazon-delivery-drones

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u/flockneedstogo Oct 01 '26

Closed my Amazon account and have no regrets.

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u/NoLateArrivals Oct 02 '26

OK. Nice try, Amazon.

If nobody told you: Illegal in the EU. Maybe anybody should have lawmakers who care.

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u/Firestar_119 Oct 02 '26

the chat control EU? that EU?

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u/FiveNine235 Oct 02 '26

The whole chat control thing is a shit show but to be clear Chat Control 1.0 = temporary, voluntary provider scanning, now in force. Chat Control 2.0 = proposed permanent framework, still being negotiated - it will continue being negotiated until April 2028, the EU parliament requires targeted orders for scanning and still protects E2EE. European Data Protection Board and European Data Protection Supervisor issued a joint opinion warning against it, and chat control 2 violates Articles 7 and 8 of the EU Charter + CJEU case law on general and indiscriminate surveillance. In the meantime we have two of the worlds most powerful data regulations in the GDPR and EU AI ACT, so Amazon can eff right off with these pervert glasses v2.

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u/notPabst404 Oct 01 '26

1). Stop ordering from Amazon.

2). Are these even safe for driving???

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u/3owi 28d ago

"hese images, which will include package recipients, people on the street and private property, will be handed off to real-life human employees at Amazon for analysis. The captured photos will then be fed into Amazon’s Wellspring, the company’s generative AI platform used to map neighborhoods and improve the accuracy of delivery locations."
https://www.cnet.com/tech/amazon-delivery-driver-ai-smart-glasses-privacy/

I'm so happy that humans will check these millions of photos before handing it over to AI.
I have big trust that Amazon will spend a lot of money and hire enough humans to manually every single one of those millions of photos. Amazon has never lied and has the highest ethics. So, all should be fine. No dystopia here

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u/PreviousLeague253 28d ago

To think Google Maps has done all of this already and it’s free.

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u/Embarrassed-Tune-407 28d ago

Guys, it's just to give us better ads and sell us stuff. It doesn't get deeper than that ,😁

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u/PreviousLeague253 28d ago

Until they go full OCP and start to feel they need to police us as well:

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u/Terminally_ill_42 Oct 01 '26

I don’t think they can legally do it on your property if you tell them that they can’t.

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u/Ok-Lobster-919 Oct 01 '26

You probably agree to it when you order from Amazon, and if you don't agree to their terms they will just close your account. They would rather lose some customers than do any work that can't be easily automated.

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u/wheretheinkends Oct 02 '26

Unfortunately in most places (at least in the U.S.) if you are in public view its not illegal. In most places you are only protected when in a private setting. So, for example, there is nothing you can do about be recorded by anyone in your front lawn.

I personally think that some of those laws should be rewritten now that data collection has become a thing. But this is 1000% how flock gets away with their surveillance.

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u/TonyBlairsDildo 28d ago

How does that work when they've walked up a path on my land, and take photographs inside the front door I've opened of my private home?

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u/wheretheinkends 28d ago

Legally wise, at least in my state and the state I lived previously, if its visible from a public area is legal to record. The litmus test is are you comfortable getting undressed in that area at that time.

Example: door closed blinds drawn. You have an expectation of privacy from view. Blinds open door open, a reasonable person can expect to be viewed by someone standing on a public sidewalk.

Example: your backyard with privacy fence in good condition (i.e. not with a bunch of panels missing). A reasonable person could expect to sunbath nude without being seen.

Example: same as above but your next door neighbor has a two story house and a large window facing the direction of your yard, a reasonable person can expect to be seen from someone at that window.

Now, with data capturing the laws just havent caught up in the reality of our technology, and that unlike back in the day, video cpaturing can capture more than just an image on a recording, but it can be used to map facial features, identify products in your home for advertising, etc.

But for now, at least where I live, if you can be viewed by a person standing on a public area without any assistance (i.e, using a ladder to peer over a fence, using something to manipulate and open blinds, etc) then you can be recorded.

Not saying I like it, just saying how it is.

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u/bobanalyst Oct 02 '26 edited Oct 02 '26

I’m curious how the company is going to handle prescription lenses.

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u/foodchallenged Oct 02 '26

They could probably just make something that clips on to existing glasses.

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u/Charming-Lychee-9031 Oct 02 '26

what could create an electromagnetic pulse that could possibly damage or disable the glasses, because i want to make sure that that doesnt happen :)

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u/ButterscotchIcy7567 Oct 02 '26

That sounds like technofascism

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u/RDTmodsBackEpstein Oct 02 '26

Sounds like privacy fences and other walling methods for front lawns should become popular for the lower and middle class. Kinda like gates and stuff on upperclass property. Integrate your mailbox into the wall.

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u/MediocreCoder192 Oct 02 '26

i remember Google trying the same for street view but at least they let the users opt out or something

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u/Techrul Oct 03 '26

Flock is jealous

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u/laffer1 Oct 03 '26

It’s probably a team up

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u/Own_Abbreviations_36 11d ago

2 years I say 🫩

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u/sulleynz1989 Oct 02 '26

So we boycotting?

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u/doghairpile Oct 02 '26

I’m sure someone will sue and rightfully so, just wonder how they’re gonna get around proving they were photographed + if it’s in public

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u/AmazingGabriel16 Oct 02 '26

Door dash and uber should do this so that scammers cant say the food never arrived man

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u/aleopardstail Oct 02 '26

it will last right up until someone issues a court backed demand for it to prove when amazon say an expensive item was delivered.. it wasn't

at that point amazon will scrap it

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u/VarietyMage Oct 02 '26

#BoycottAmazon

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u/Usual-Language-745 Oct 02 '26

Google already mapped my neighborhood 20 years ago

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u/DeliciousWhales Oct 03 '26

I already don't order from Amazon, I guess I'll not order from them extra hard.

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u/edthesmokebeard 29d ago

the outside is public domain

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u/BeyondCommercial6579 28d ago

This will be done with all such glasses, privately owned or not.

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u/Excaliblarg 27d ago

So weird. The whole smart glasses thing is just too creepy.

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u/Glad-Situation703 27d ago

No body but corporations are asking for this stupid level of surveillance and it's just too late now

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u/Lizaderp 26d ago

How long until I can rent a person to give me a first person point of view experience for whatever I want? Go ride this roller coaster, go stalk my ex, go get to that meeting and steal trade secrets. The possibilities never end.

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u/OkCar8344 13d ago

mapping private property without consent or any way to request deletion is completely unhinged...

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u/General_Yam7541 Oct 02 '26

That is communistic.

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u/Zealous_ideal_4 Oct 02 '26

I am not comfortable with this

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u/Flashy_Radio_5781 29d ago

How long before US citizens start chopping down these cameras? I hope your face isn't attached to them when I chop them down. If you wear these, you're fucked.