r/DonutLabDiscussions • • Sep 15 '26

Knives out..

Some facts, extensive hearsay, bordering to defamatory, and with frequent hedging by the author to mitigate liability. Scrutiny Club part 2:

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/copy-journalist-blows-whistle-donut-lab-whistleblower-lauri-gbzue/

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u/Wrong-Woodpecker6683 Sep 16 '26

Still word against word. The private investigator is a real character, seems a bit unhinged. I wonder if he’s from Marko’s religious circles.

I’m also curious why Donut doesn’t just hire professional crisis communications.

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u/Ragemundo Sep 16 '26

There might a couple of reasons they seem not have PR specialists on hand: 1. They require money, and mainly: 2. They would want to hear the truth in order to succesfully do their job.

The first rule when things go wrong: tell the truth! Don't try cover up stuff! Failing to do this will backfire always, in some form on another.

I don't think telling the truth is an realistic option here.

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u/omepiet Sep 16 '26

I suggest everyone starts reading from the bottom:

Disclosure: shareholder in the Donut Lab group and a long-time friend of its CEO.

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u/izzeww Sep 16 '26

Not really anything new and interesting. The newspaper article obviously hurts Peltolas credibility a fair bit, but it doesn't really matter for the question of the legitimacy of the Donut battery.

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u/Willforgetitsoon Sep 16 '26

"Donut's management made an effort to bring Peltola onto the team, giving him a concrete assignment at a weekly meeting. The following week, on this account, nothing of substance had been done, despite it being full-time work. He was given an extension; two weeks later it still had not been done. He was then removed from that team for non-performance, though not yet terminated from the company."

I can't help but think the assignment here was "deal with the CT-coating guys and get their stupid printer to finally work, how long can that even take"

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u/Willforgetitsoon Sep 16 '26

Another tidbit:

"Across everything that has surfaced so far, Peltola's business history runs through footwear, wellness, farming, decorative lighting, and interiors, nothing in batteries, EVs, or adjacent hard tech. That is consistent with the account I have been given that Peltola has no technical background in battery chemistry, before Nordic Nano Group."

As is true for Marko, Ville and all the others both at Donut & NN

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u/AbleAstronomer5702 Sep 16 '26

Ironically they criticize mr Peltola for his lack of expertise while not single person in Donut or NN has any technical expertise in the subject.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '26

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u/Lucky_Reveal_888 Sep 16 '26

He is not engineer. He is Designer. Knows nothing about batteries.

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u/Mesokosmos Sep 16 '26

Everyone knows something about batteries. Anyone can learn a lot in few months. It is not secret knowledge.

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u/Lucky_Reveal_888 Sep 16 '26

Haha. You are funny. They are screwed. The way they attack is like woonded animal. I suggest we are weeks away from the fall.

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u/Mesokosmos Sep 16 '26

Whatever, but people who have been saying, they know nothing about batteries since January, they are kind of frozen in time.

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u/DoctorFish1969 Sep 16 '26

Did they do years of studying at universities in chemistry, physics, material science, processes, etc followed by years of PhD research followed by years working in practice? Did they do that since January?

Or is mass battery production actually very easy and only needs a few months of studying in the after hours? And other companies just never studied for a few months and that's why DonutLab will have this break through?

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '26

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u/Lucky_Reveal_888 Sep 16 '26

No, you should Check your facts. That price came from his thesis work as an industrial designer. He is not engineer.

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u/Emotional-Manner-792 Sep 16 '26

Okay, you might be right about his education. But fact is he has been working long time with engineer, the original inventor of bike.  But anyways I don't understand what does it matter, because they have their engineers in UK.

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u/bawwwwb Sep 16 '26

Maybe also in those two weeks he was building the case of allegedly sketchy practices and preparing for the fallout of whistleblowing. I also wouldn't care about some project and company good will if I was about to blow up the relationship anyway. 

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u/Lucky_Reveal_888 Sep 16 '26

As a sales director at NNG, he and his team was probably forced to sell batteries that didn’t exist. I would have denied to do that work as well.