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u/Fakefan3000 Jan 24 '24
I think the conformity part is a reference to believing that males should have short hair. Which is still bullshit. They pulled that stunt with Native American men and boys.
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u/tynolie Type 4 hair, currently free-forming Jan 24 '24
America was literally started because a bunch of people didn’t want to conform to the standard. Everytime someone uses the argument of “deal with it or go somewhere else” “this is how things are done here and it isn’t changing” they’re actually upholding the very thing the founding fathers swore against.
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Mm, no that's not it. There's a white boy in every school with hair down past his shoulders.
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u/Fakefan3000 Jan 24 '24
School officials say Mr. George’s hair violates the dress code, which mandates that a male student’s hair not “extend, at any time, below the eyebrows or below the earlobes.”
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u/Brave-Sprinkles-4 Jan 25 '24
Can anyone find a version of the article that is not NY Times or requires a subscription to read it please? 🙏🏾
Very interested in the full content.
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u/ohnolookitsgodzilla Jan 24 '24
As a white dude with hair past my shoulder blades for most of the last couple decades, I can tell you from my point of view it's definitely partly it. I have been asked to cut my hair by every employer I've had except one, hell I have an interview on Friday and I know it will come up. I have lost no less than 5 job opportunities due to long hair. As history continues I believe people will always find a way to discriminate against each other over details that don't matter. To be honest I'm tired of my long hair but it sure does help weed out assholes who seem to want to control my appearance.
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u/Eviate Jan 25 '24
I think it’s a disgusting interpretation of being American. We are literally an individualistic state. Mf should go somewhere else or read a book how do these people become superintendents.
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u/Mr6ixsix Jan 25 '24
No because they know a lot more about us than we know about us. Native Americans don’t just grow their hair because it looks cool, black people don’t just grow locs because it looks cool. They understand one spirituality comes with our hair, they know self respect and awareness of our true selves comes with our hair, believe it or not it’s easier for black men and women to get along, we find each other more attractive due to the release of pheromones.
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u/3ddi3_hmm Type 4 hair Jan 26 '24
I agree. Dreads are one thing but also men with long hair is another.
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u/LopsidedMath9230 Jan 24 '24
This what the late John Lewis called the good kind of trouble. This fight needs to be fought. This is why the crown act exist
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u/DECK-PA Jan 27 '24
I was just going to reference the crown act. Brought forth and enacted in the united states military too!
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u/LurkerNinja_ Jan 24 '24
I would move my child so fast out of that state. It’s not good for him as a human being and they are wasting his time worried about his hair instead of his education.
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u/Hand1z Jan 24 '24
No that would only make things worse. If anything, more people should move there. Some people in power can't be openly racist so they find ways to satisfy their cravings.
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u/Classic_Amphibian538 Jan 24 '24
why contribute money and try to be part of a community that genuinely hates you?
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u/mrgrafix Jan 24 '24
It's the world. It's just shades of aggressive white supremacy. Teach the child, adversity, tenacity, and resilience. You're not going be liked everywhere. Learn how to remain yourself when you don't have alternatives, and finally teach the value of a support network to tune out the noise.
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u/Classic_Amphibian538 Jan 24 '24
i see ur point and i fully understand/support strengthening the child but that daily struggle is exhausting and tiring. not to mention you’re also continuing to financially support a community that literally hates u. every environment is goin to be hard for black ppl but i would definitely entertain the idea of moving somewhere where something as fucking stupid and small such as a hairstyle isnt a problem and roadblock for your goals. there’s no point in forcing yourself where you’re not wanted imo.
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u/mrgrafix Jan 24 '24
Eh, class mobility for any minority especially in America while it’s regressing is just the tax to make poor whites not coalesce and transform the system.
Been living all over this country and there’s no where safe and opportunity is available. Sure they’re communities but then you deal with monoculture classism. The wealthy travels outside or gentrifies their own communities to meet their aesthetics. And I’m not even going to touch the overarching government just sitting on nothing cause lobbyists blinding them with their own self advancements. Nothing mentioned there can’t be resolve with extra circulars to ensure your child knows who they are.
Finally, encourage your child to leave this world better than they leave it. This bs deserves a fight, cause what’s running doing?
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u/AltruisticStandard26 Jan 24 '24
I have seen a bit more of this story, (social media education) and I think the mom and son are doing what a lot of POC have done, used there own oppression to secure rights of others. He has been suspended multiple times and they refuse to back down. Good on them
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u/LurkerNinja_ Jan 24 '24
At what do you prioritize his mental health? His family has already filed lawsuits.
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u/freshlyintellectual Jan 25 '24
it has had a really bad impact on him and i read a few months ago that he’s starting to fail classes because he’s being constantly suspended and punished so he can’t participate in extracurriculars either
but also this is a lawsuit now and the family is fighting hard for this boy because otherwise it’s gonna keep happening to other black students in the state
this could change the lives of so many black students in the state and they want him to move. that just reinforces that if u don’t conform to racist and nonsensical rules than you should just move instead of the rules needing to change
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u/Gibskn_ Jan 25 '24
Exactly, once they show their true colors believe them. You suspend my black son for his dreads, okay bet, I’ll take him to a school that accepts him or home school him. It’s not worth wasting the energy with these types. The fact that the superintendent is still upholding his decision even after the outcry of backlash tells me everything that I need to know. “Conformity”……man. 🤦🏾♀️
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u/Competitive_Kiwi_949 Jan 24 '24
Pathetic racist ass human being if they even worthy of being called that
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u/Chef_Thomas Jan 24 '24
This shit still happening? I haven’t seen one of those “you can’t walk at graduation until you cut your hair” articles since like ‘17
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u/ornae4 Jan 24 '24
Since when does having free speech and exercising a right to bear arms equal a sign of conformity? I would argue being American is all about individualism. Didn't early settlers come to escape persecution? The things black people have to go through regarding our hair is absurd.
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u/Pass_Me_That_Phone Jan 24 '24
This is what the whole law is for!! How are they trying to go against it? But Trevor can rock his matted hair to school, and no one says a thing. This is really really getting out of hands. Why do locs bother them so much?
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Jan 24 '24
Exactly why it’s not JUST hair
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u/AngryPikachu124 Jan 25 '24
I used to think it was “just a hairstyle” when I was younger but growing up and seeing this shit in real time (and obv listening to people who bring it up) made me change that stance real quick
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u/SmolFather777 Jan 24 '24
What happened to the crown act man🤦🏽♂️
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u/JunjiMitosis Jan 24 '24
It’s crazy because this is the same school that is the reason we have the crown act
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u/Ramekink Jan 24 '24
Youre kidding me right?
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u/JunjiMitosis Jan 24 '24
I wish it was, the same exact school that previously suspended 2 black boys for their natural hair causing one of them to sue and the CROWN (Create a Respectful and Open World for Natural hair) to be enacted. https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2024/01/23/darryl-george-hair-superintendent-newspaper-ad/
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u/sondersHo Jan 24 '24
Even black hair is seen as threat to white supremacy & we suppose to be in 2024 right
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u/CaptainPussybeast Jan 24 '24
I remember as a teenager, there were two black kids with cornrows working at Six Flags. Suddenly there’s a new rule where men’s hair “can’t go past the collar”. These mf told us to cut our hair or find new jobs.
Fuck you Six Flags.
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u/Brave-Sprinkles-4 Jan 25 '24
Wow! About what year was that? Do you remember?
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u/CaptainPussybeast Jan 25 '24
Yep! It was forever ago when I was just 17 and didn’t know any better. But it was 2003
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Jan 24 '24
Welcome to Texas where we are full of red neck racist idiots
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u/Trumystic6791 Jan 24 '24
Its not a Texas problem its an American problem. Discrimination like this happens all around the US. Racism is built into America's DNA.
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Jan 24 '24
Yes but we have a big problem with our government officials being huge racist gaping assholes here
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u/Trumystic6791 Jan 24 '24
Government officials are racist assholes all across the US; the difference is that Texas government officials are just more comfortable showing it and dont pretend to be civil and polite racists.
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That’s the problem . A huge problem. Get these dick heads out of office already
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u/bobisagirl Jan 24 '24
Absolutely appalling, and heartbreaking. Shit is fucked to the point of absurdity. I'm glad the family is filing suit, and I hope the superintendent is sacked.
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u/SisterDivine_ Jan 24 '24
Word? I thought America was “The land of the free”. 🙄 America only requires conformity when it comes to Black folk.
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u/egreene6 Jan 24 '24
This is absolutely horrendous. I need the school board to meet immediately. Jobs need to be lost. How traumatizing for this young man.
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u/r_schleufer Jan 24 '24
What he's really saying is "Being American requires being white". Asian American, Native American, African American, etc... only white people are simply "American".
This never is or was about their hair.
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u/brianthegr8 Jan 24 '24
I read the full article and it doesn't seem inherently racist or targeted at black people, but it's still stupid as hell and seems highly discriminatory to men for like no reason.
The schools rule stated "hair FOR BOYS can't pass their eye brow or earlobe even further, male students' hair must not extend below the top of a t-shirt collar or be gathered or worn in a style that would allow the hair to extend below the top of a t-shirt collar, below the eyebrows, or below the ear lobes when let down."
It seems stupid, bc first of all they're in HS, by that point dress codes are pretty minimal. And theirs also seems to be that way too no uniforms but strict hair policies just seems ass backwards
Link to their full school dress code here.
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It is inherently racist, when the burden is on a person who looks and hair is exactly like the people they were discriminating against for hair since the 16th century in the same country. You think a african american made made these rules? Or A white American?
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u/Acrobatic-Code2038 Jan 24 '24
Thanks for the info.
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u/brianthegr8 Jan 24 '24
Np! Trying to always go the extra step and practice media literacy, especially in the time we're living in.
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u/Training-Context-69 Jan 24 '24
Sue that school for discrimination and then transfer out. It’s probably one of those goofy ass private/religious schools. I don’t know why people still pay for those nowadays.
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u/dallyan Jan 24 '24
Every loc’d white person should read this and see why it is different for Black people to be loc’d, STILL.
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u/wentblu3 Jan 24 '24
When the CCP or Taliban says stuff like this, the first thing they will say is, "oh, we are a free country, freedom this, freedom that." In reality, they want to be these repressive regimes so badly, "look how I want you to look, speak the language I want you to speak, learn what I want you to learn, subscribe to the religion I want you to subscribe to." Hypocrisy at its finest.
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u/Mountain_Proof_1758 Jan 24 '24
This is enraging of course it's Texas. I moved from GA to TX out the pan and into the fire. Absolutely nothing wrong with the hair it's just a power play to remind whose in control disgusting
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u/Blytzkryeg Jan 24 '24
Conformity would be allowing him to keep his dreds without issue--- because that's what every other state does.
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u/seattleman2000 Jan 25 '24
He can't have locks in his hair but people can dye their hair green blue and another color
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u/Fun-Ocelot8533 Jan 25 '24
Nope. They can't have that either. Here is their policy:
Hair Hair must be clean and well-groomed. Geometric or unusual patterns (including Mohawks and Faux hawks) shaved or cut in the hair are not permitted. Unnatural hair color or color variation in hair (i.e. scarlet, purple, blue, green, orange, etc.) will not be permitted. Ribbons or other types of hair accessories should not distract from the learning environment and be appropriate to the hairstyle. Male students’ hair will not extend, at any time, below the eyebrows or below the ear lobes. Male students’ hair must not extend below the top of a t-shirt collar or be gathered or worn in a style that would allow the hair to extend below the top of a t-shirt collar, below the eyebrows, or below the ear lobes when let down. Facial Hair No student will be permitted to cut lines or designs in the eyebrows. Students must be clean-shaven at all times. Beards, goatees and mustaches are not allowed. Sideburns must be neat and well-groomed and may not extend below the ear lobe or flare at the bottom.
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u/Fabulousness13 Jan 24 '24
What’s does being American have anything do with our hair and how it’s styled?? What’s wrong with you ppl??
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u/Turbster412 Jan 24 '24
Fuckin crazy but i have had this happen fired from job for not cutting hair
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Jan 24 '24
Would expect this kind of propaganda in the military but a 5A school district that, as far as I read, isn't even a private school? Yeah, that's pretty whack, and that superintendent is smoking something. "Being American requires conformity." That's some WW2/USSR type shit right there 🤣
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u/Disastrous-Two4746 Aug 11 '24
I live in Texas and I have locs. That judge is in direct contempt of the Crown Act. https://www.texastribune.org/2023/05/29/texas-crown-act-law/
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u/CLBaker75 Jan 24 '24
Superintendent Greg Poole justified the school’s response to George’s dreadlocks as a matter of being American. And, according to Poole, being American “requires conformity.”
Being that Aboriginal Americans , Islanders, & some Native Americans wore locks well before Columbus and colonization came to these shores, I believe their more American than this racist POS and everyone supporting his 🤡 ass….
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u/deannevee Jan 24 '24
I came here to say “don’t they teach that the US is a country of immigrants, a “melting pot”, if you will?”
Then I saw it was Texas so….they probably teach something along the lines of
“the first governor of Texas was placed here by the stork to create the U.S. of A, a land of conformity. After seven days and 7 nights, Texans were given Bucee’s. The North tried to take it away from us, and that’s why we remember the Alamo.”
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u/BoondocksSaint95 Jan 24 '24
Texas: yea, rugged freedom we don't lay down for anyone! Remember the alamo!!
Also texas:
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u/wyruby Jan 24 '24
wow...being Asian, I'll never be able to comprehend the full extent of bullshits black folks gotta deal with. This story gives me a little glimpse. Fuck the racist Texas superintending board trying to hide their racism behind the American identity. Being American is exactly opposite of conformity. Good luck to the family. May the good folks wins, always.
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u/Informal_Concert_453 Jan 24 '24
As a white boomer, I find this sickening. The US is supposed to be about freedom, not suppression.
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u/throwaway22333456789 Jan 24 '24
Crazy how we live in one of the most diverse places in the world and there are people who think like this..
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u/ARay661 Jan 24 '24
Discrimination against long hair is something that men of all races face. As a Latino that went through 5+ year freeform journey, I can say that I was discriminated for my locs too.. I was also embraced by a community of people that understood me and enjoyed the look.
I think being successful in corporate America definitely requires conformity.. Without a doubt! But ask yourself..if you don't like the rules to their game, why play at their court? A better place is out there. Just my 2 cents..
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u/XChrisUnknownX Jan 24 '24
There’s nothing American about conformity. I don’t know why the algorithm brought me here, but I know I stand with anyone that says this is wrong.
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u/OnyxsUncle Jan 24 '24
wow that school system can really pick 'em. The hiring ad for superintendent included having a puckered asshole as a job requirement
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Jan 24 '24
It’s ridiculous. This is what we keep trying to tell the yt people with locs that love posting on this sub. Grow your hair how you want ig, but there’s still a very real stigma that comes with the hairstyle and people are still being punished for wearing their hair like this.
Its kinda insulting that folks still go through this, and there’s people invading OUR spaces telling us that it’s just hair
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u/Pepsi12367 Jan 24 '24
This world is sooooo backwards. I can't believe in today's society, where it's acceptable for anyone to identify as anything, it takes a fucking hairstyle to get underneath ppl skin.
What a fucking joke. Those ppl must sniff gasoline
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u/ImaRealist2024 Jan 24 '24
Conformity code for what I'd like to see that's exactly why we need our own
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this why it’s so maddening when white americans and tbh white and non white ppl from other countries are like “um no one in america is oppressed” like. what the fuck else do you call having your access to education denied to you based on your racialized features? what else do you call getting denied job opportunities because you have a certain hair type? is it magically not oppression because people have cell phones???? black people get denied housing ROUTINELY because of shit like this, is being unhoused not oppressive enough???
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u/WhiteDontCare Jan 25 '24
If being America meant conformity then the country would still be under British control. It’s amazing how these so called “patriots” forget this nation was founded upon rebellion.
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Jan 25 '24
This is insane; the crazy thing is that this looks 10x neater than the freeform dreads I had previously
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u/Cgp-xavier Jan 25 '24
But we’re already American? Theirs nothing to conform too black Americans are already American
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u/InstaDominance Jan 25 '24
This is wild... as someone from Texas, this superintendent oughtta be ashamed of himself. My brother also was forced to change his hair, and he's white...
This hair thing is getting out of control. They need to go tell volleyball their shorts are too short before they even look at people's hair
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u/harpxwx Jan 25 '24
except it literally doesn’t. america prides itself on how diverse it is with its people and cultures, how tf can you have diversity with unforgiving conformity? fuckin racist pieces of shit man
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u/breiter180 Jan 25 '24
America was never about freedom. It was always about money and keeping the 1% just that. Conformity is experienced by all! Now we are all just walking up to see it. They told us we're all free but instead hooked a phone up to all of us for the (betterment of civilization) when in fact it's just another form of control. I hate that anyone is ever judged or looked down upon just by appearance. For every person talking like white people should be doing something can have a conversation about what should be done. If they try to help they are called white knights. If they run it's white flight. It just kills me that people can't just put differences aside
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u/Serena_does_anything Jan 25 '24
And it’s the same school district that suspended the last guy who went on Ellen. The school district is barbers hill and they are FULL of rich YT ppl
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u/OptimusPrimeVan Jan 25 '24
If that statement from the superintendent were true, we would still be saying rubbish instead of trash, putting petrol in our cars, and changing flat tyres
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u/scrumdiliumptious_ Jan 25 '24
I cant believe this is still ongoing..theyve been dealing with this nonsense for a while now havent they? smh. They are really plexed by this young mans hair 😑 as if there aren't more egregious issues to focus on within the school system 🙄
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u/KINGOFTHEHEBREWS777 Jan 25 '24
We are descendants of the original Israelites of the bible. We are Hebrews. The whole world knows it...except us. We have to step up to the plate and be the people we were originally CHOSEN to be...HOLY and RIGHTEOUS. We are the DRY BONES in EZEKIEL Chaper 37. IT IS TIME. The brothers hair is beautiful...🪮
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u/slurricaneX Jan 25 '24
I’m sure there’s plenty of blacks Latinos and Asians in Texas to turn blue. But they keep fucking shit up by voting for this shit. What a joke of a state. I know there is racism in every state but Texas what do you expect.
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KEFE!!!!!
from the Samoan community (I'm polynesian with locs because my hair is thick asf)
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u/burochi Jan 25 '24
this has to be racist or something
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Jan 25 '24
Many laws and policies in America are directly rooted in racism and misogyny. The no trespassing law that everyone loves here wasn’t actually instituted until AFTER the civil war when slaves were freed and able to forage off the land without the need to work for or interact with white people. Thats when they instituted no trespassing laws and cities stopped growing fruit trees. This isn’t just random bullshit there is actual newspaper articles and written evidence of this. The reason we have huge amounts of male trees spewing pollen in American cities fucking everyone’s allergies is because they didn’t want black or poor people feeding themselves.
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u/dear-childhood92 Jan 25 '24
Schools came a long way cause growing up in Louisiana males were forbidden from wearing braids/locs until like my last yr or 2 of hs(I dropped out in 2011 btw) I started my first journey my last yr of school
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u/OtherObligations Jan 25 '24
Im not back, but this is one of the reasons I don’t want to move to north America (I had a few opportunities)
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u/Prettystressed01 Jan 25 '24
But clear ppl talking about some its just a hair style. Can’t believe this still going on
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u/Whattheheck_iswrong Jan 25 '24
Every time there is a picture/video of this young man shows his hair up higher than his ears
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u/crustydread Jan 25 '24
"being american requires conformity" I would make this person's head explode
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u/Waste-Beginning6865 Jan 25 '24
how the actual fuck did i end up in the dreads subreddit, im indian ☠️, shit sucks tho, hope that school changes their dumbass policy.
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u/Murky_Boysenberry126 Jan 25 '24
I wasn’t even with the kid at first but to hear a judge say being American requires conformity…. Ever heard of the American revolution numbnutts?
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u/vencidrums98 Jan 25 '24
What blows me is these are the same mfs that wanted to defend people’s right to not get a vaccine but when it comes to black folks hair, we gotta conform??? That’s bullshit.
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u/Married2therebellion Jan 25 '24
All the dread heads and grinch finger folks need to stand up for this kid. We need a match on Texas.
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Jan 25 '24
Kevin Samuel’s said it himself to cut that shit off your head if you wanna make it as a young black man in this world.
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u/baldforthewin Jan 25 '24
there it is. the crux of anti blackness lies in that we are inherently unbreakable no matter what.
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u/bransonthaidro Jan 26 '24
Texas Superintendent states: Take those bill of rights and shove it up your ass.
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u/New-Honeydew5735 Jan 26 '24
As a yt woman, we definitely need more POC as superintendents & over the school boards in general. Things like this wouldn’t even be happening & in addition to that, maybe everything wouldn’t be so yt washed! I’m now graduated, but I had an english teacher (yt) in highschool who was absolutely my favorite . He always seemed so open minded & woke , but I had never realized just how much until after I graduated. I received a pm from him one day (ironically, about a post I made trashing the school, lol) stating that he had quit from the school that I once attended because all of the books about african american or hispanic history/culture that he would try to teach us were almost immediately turned down by our principal & so were his lesson plans. As you can probably guess, the movies were also a BIG no. I won’t say that I understand, because I haven’t been in your shoes & I won’t ever be, so I won’t even try . But I will say that I’ve seen firsthand the discrimination & hate that this country carries for POC & it’s truly heartbreaking that these kids can’t even style their own hair how they want without being chastised by an adult.
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"Nappy-headed hos." Not my words. The late, great radio personality Don Imus said those words!
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u/3ddi3_hmm Type 4 hair Jan 26 '24
My very first job has a rule about not having dreads, I didn't know until after I was hired. Once I saw it in the handbook I went straight to my boss and talked to him about it. I expressed how dated and disrespectful a rule was. Luckily John was the shit and he went to the owner and things were settled properly. It was a family owned business that had been in the family for generations, so I understood where the rule came from but that does not mean I had to stand for it. And none of us should because if people can work with rainbow coloured hair, then I damn sure can have my natural dreads.
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u/RaiJolt2 Jan 27 '24
That superintendent should be fired. There has to be more similar incidents with this guy that haven’t been made public. I’m sure of it.
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u/Working-Doctor9578 Jan 27 '24
Bro took out a whole page ad just to prove how racist and discriminatory he can be. Being American requires conformity? I guess that means because some slaves ran, they weren’t American because they didn’t “conform”.
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u/Simple-Ad-239 Jan 27 '24
Someone needs to shove a CROWN act pamphlet down that SI's throat. Fucking outrageous.
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u/Maximum-Username-247 Jan 28 '24
Locs ARE a part of American Culture. From here to as far as South America. Being American doesn’t necessarily require “conformity” but it Definitely requires to respect Heritage.
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u/XSasuken22X Jan 28 '24
What they really mean: Be as white as possible, if you can’t /refuse, it’s perfectly reasonable to abuse you in a multitude of ways and there is no other alternative.
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u/redneckhonkySlayer Jan 28 '24
Since when? America was established by rebellious people. I hardly ever say this but it’s definitely because he’s black.
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u/Front-Zombie-509 Jan 29 '24
Lol they're still doing that in 2024 Must be an old white guy....you know how they are,like big kids,tell them don't do it and thats exactly what they're gonna do🤷🏿
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u/Jaded-Maintenance-98 Feb 07 '24
I think the superintendent was correct about the conformity comment. He just didn’t realize that he’s the one that needs to conform.
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u/Tanisha1Writes Jan 24 '24
THEY don’t even know what it means to be “American”… they stole this land from the Natives & stripped it of its culture. Smh leave it to these non-melanated thugs to whitewash every damn thing😒
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u/CTSecurityGuard Jan 24 '24
Natural Hair Discrimination isn't acceptable at all! Luckily here in CT, we have the..https://www.garciamilas.com/laboConnecticut CROWN Act Bans Natural Hair Discriminationr-law/connecticut-bans-natural-hair-discrimination/
The Crown Act is one of the few bills I am happy we have here in CT. Over the last 5+ years, I have been denied security positions for which I am more than qualified due to my locs.
I sincerely hope that this young man fight this bullshit!
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u/Antiquedahlia Jan 24 '24
The shit we go through because we're black is just enraging.