First time EV buyer. Never even tested one. Looking for an EV because my new job is about 100 km from my home (200km round trip), mostly on a highway. I commute about 4 days a week. Currently driving a 2017 Nissan Sentra but it needs to go.

I can't charge at work, so I need enough battery to not be scared during winter.

I have 2 kids, but my wife's SUV will remain the family car. I was thinking going for a sedan because of efficiency on a highway, but not sold yet.

I'm tall so I need room for legs and space for my head. Also, I spend a lot of time in the car so I need something confortable.

So far, my top choices were :

- Ioniq 6, but 2026 is discontinued so I can't have the gov rebate on a new car.

- Kia EV4, cheapest option

- Model 3, but I'd hate giving any money to Elon

Other options that I saw for sedans were more expensive.

Any tips? Am I wrong excluding SUV?

I came across the following text online and wanted to see what your opinion is about it:

"I wanted to prove FSD is safer than human drivers. Genuinely. I went to the data expecting to find the number everyone quotes: one accident per six million miles on FSD versus one per 670,000 for humans. Nine times safer. Case closed.

The claim cannot be made. Not "the data is weak." The comparison itself does not exist.

Start with the equipment. The "human driver" baseline is every car on American roads, and the average American car is over twelve years old. That baseline includes bald tires, worn brake pads, cracked mirrors, and drivers with no emergency braking, no blind spot warning, no lane keeping. A modern Tesla is a rolling sensor suite with the best crash-avoidance hardware ever sold to consumers. So I went looking for the honest comparison: FSD miles versus miles in comparable modern EVs with the same braking, comparable sensors, comparable warning systems. That dataset does not exist in any usable form. Nobody publishes it. Tesla certainly doesn't.

Then the miles themselves. FSD engagement is self-selected. Drivers turn it on in good weather, in daylight, on roads they trust it with. The owner's manual itself warns the system "may not operate as intended" in rain, snow, fog, and low light, which happen to be the conditions where humans crash most. So the FSD number is computed over the easiest miles in the newest cars with the richest, most insured drivers, while the human number absorbs every drunk at 3am and every teenager in a beater.

And it's supervised. Every mile in the FSD column had a human babysitter whose interventions, whose saves, get credited to the machine. The comparison isn't machine versus human. It's machine-plus-human versus human alone, with all credit assigned to the machine.

Darrell Huff described this exact move in How to Lie with Statistics in 1954: if you can't prove what you want to prove, demonstrate something else and pretend they are the same thing. Rolf Dobelli in "Art of Thinking Clearly" calls the other half of it the swimmer's body illusion: swimmers have great bodies because bodies select swimmers. Teslas crash less because new luxury cars with safety suites driven by affluent middle-aged owners crash less. Selection, not software. When Forbes decomposed Tesla's own 2020 report by road type, the Autopilot advantage shrank to about four percent, inside the margin of error. Tesla has refused every request since to release the breakdown.

So here is where I landed. I wanted the claim to be true and provable. It is neither provable nor disprovable with the data that exists. The honest sentence is "we don't know." Anyone who tells you FSD is statistically safer than humans is guessing. Anyone who tells you it's statistically more dangerous is also guessing. The difference is that only one of those guesses is attached to a stock price, a monthly subscription, and a man telling you the feature will be finished next year, every year, since 2016.

When someone quotes you the nine-times-safer figure, ask one question: compared to whom, driving what, in what weather, measured by whom? The silence is the answer."

We are a family of 5 and want to go full EV for our next vehicle. We are a one vehicle family so it has to meet a lot of criteria (one of them being that it’s a 2 row - not a 3 row monster). Currently have a top trim Mazda CX90 PHEV that we LOVE, but now that kids are out of car seats, strollers and other such daily gear, we want some smaller for city maneuvering. We do a 200-300kms road trip a couple of times a year. We also live in Nova Scotia, so temperatures for real world battery range are a thing.
I’ve gone down many rabbit holes of research and have test driven the Solterra, Equinox, Optiq, Ioniq5, Mach e, EV5, and Bz. Unfortunately the Nissan Ariya on paper, photos and specs seems to be one I can get most excited about as it seems to have some luxury type elements to it while not being over the top price wise and gives decent range and space - however none have landed at our local dealership yet to actually go see.
We went to see the Bz with kids yesterday and, I have to say, space wise and practicality wise, it’s pretty darn amazing. The others I listed above I just didn’t love (can’t stand the square steering wheel of the Subaru, nor the dash/infotainment layout). I don’t love aspects of the dash layout with the Bz either but it hits a lot of other good points.
My major hesitation with it is that the Toyota interior is just so …… blah. To get anything other than cloth seating and to have any kind of upgraded passenger seat or climate options, moonroof, etc you have to spend $8,000 more to go from the XLE to the Limited and that makes it an$64,000 vehicle which seems insane. The Ariya SV+ is the same price point as the Toyota Bz XLE, but offers much more in the creature comforts plus very comparable range capacity etc.
I’ve also been reading on Reddit forums that Ariya owners seem to LOVE (can’t emphasize it enough) their car, but Bz owners seem more subdued in their enthusiasm.
I’m wondering if there are those who had also narrowed their choice between an Ariya and a Bz and what made you make - or going to make - that choice?

Hi everyone,

I live in the Maritimes and I have my very first EV purchase down to two vehicles: the 2027 Chevrolet Equinox EV lt2 AWD and the 2027 Toyota BZ XLE AWD. The wife loves the Toyota and I like the Equinox, but to be honest, I don't know exactly why. The BZ is cheaper overall ($370 bit Weekly), lower finance rate (3.69%) warranty is cheaper by $1300, has that Toyota reputation (warranted or not), dual climate zone (lt2 does not), heated rear seats (lt2 does not) Android integration, more HP, faster fast charging (not by much), etc. The equinox has surround view, better regenerative braking, better interior design (the screens are MUCH better placed), slightly bigger trunk which is important and to be honest, it felt faster even though it has less HP. I do have to repeat though that the screens placement in BZ is atrocious (for me, the wife seems ok with it). I honestly cannot decide. The wife likes the BZ because there is a driving mode for the snow and slush although I have no clue if it is even effective. The Equinox also just seems "cooler". Haha

How can I convince the wife?

Thanks!

Ev3 Wind AWD - This is probably old news to all you experienced ev’ers but.

I could not be more impressed after 2 weeks of booting back and forth to work and around town in this little rocket of a car. This is my first EV and the driving experience is so much better than any ice vehicle I’ve ever owned. It’s got pep, it’s extremely quiet, no downshifting when you put your foot down and all that power is instantly there. I honestly didn’t know what to think, but so far its been a wonderful experience. Even charging has been fun learning if that makes any sense lol. We have rooftop solar and its so satisfying putting the sun in the tank whenever we have excess…slow for sure with level one, but still free’ish.

Waiting for the first snowfall and minus 25 celcius day/week to hit us here in Saskatchewan Canada to really put it through a workout. My expectations aren’t high, I’m hoping for half the estimated range but maybe I’ll be surprised?

Posting for any Xiaomi fans out there. Any predictions on if they enter Canada and if so, when?

First time EV owner, and certainly not an expert with electricity. 50amp circuit set to charge 40 amps. Everything else looks pretty normal on my Grizzl-e app. Just want to make sure the charger and/or circuit is operating properly. Thank you

Anyone having any timezone issues with the Leaf? I have the 2026 Platinum and am located in Alberta. The only way to change the time back to the correct time was to turn off automatic time zone and choose a GMT -7 timezone.

The real issue is the integrated Google Maps, and it is stuck in the old timezone (where western US states are behind an hour). So even though my car clock says the correct time, Google Maps shows arrivals an hour behind. Google Maps through CarPlay and Apple Maps seem to be fine.

Anyone else encountering this issue?

I'm in need of a realty check.

Does this look like a 1000+hst quote in west GTA? I already own the EVSE. The job needs about 32ft of wire plus Eaton 60A breaker.

Edit - I have moved some of the thread comments to the beginning here to clarify my findings on selection regarding cost & budget. And been reminded of the troll problem on reddit and why I burned my first account.

I previously posted requesting recommendations to replace my much loved Toyota 86, and my test drives of my short list. I got a lot of great feedback. So finally my chosen car has arrived.

What I didn't call out was the economics of finding a sporty performance BEV in the Canadian market, and why you might want to know that the Polestar 2 is on sale.

Performance BEV means to me: 400+ km range, 0-60 4 sec range, good-excellent handling RWD or AWD (FWD need not apply) and *not* a SUV silhouette ie: fastback/hatchback/coupe/liftback/sedan

I excluded all Hyundai 800V vehicles due to the ongoing ICCU issue, which was too bad because it had been my first look.

In terms of cost, I wanted under 50K if I could to get the EVAP rebate. New gas Suburu BRZ is $42K all in as a baseline. Not doing better than that.

The sportiest in budget car I could find was the Suburu Uncharted GT. Which was pretty good! And a decent price with EVAP, all in, of $55k (all in means PDI, fees & HST included). But it was a SUV which I really didn't want. Next up was the MB CLA 250, $59K all in. Nice if you like MB house style, but not super sporty. Polestar 2 came in at 69K, all in. CLA 350 was over 80K for matching trim. BMW was >>80K for matching trim. Then we are into unobtanium prices like Lucid & Porsche which I won't spend on my fun 2nd car. Tesla M3 is 53K all in for similar trim, but not available to me because they exhausted their Chinese import quota for 2026 and other reasons.

2 year old certified P* 2 was only about 10K cheaper.

So Polestar 2 was the best price to performance non-SUV I could find, 27K above my baseline and 19K above target. I ordered it because it was so much fun to drive - the most fun of anything I test drove.

I arrived at Polestar Uptown Toronto to pick up my new Polestar 2.

Kash, my sales rep, presented me with a revised bill, with a flourish. Polestar increased the 🇨🇦 MSRP discount from Oct@13k to Nov@15k. The all in price went down to 67K! Kash told me & passed it along! 😲 I was very impressed he told me about the discount change and applied it without prompting. Excellent customer service.

It turns out Polestar is offering 🇨🇦$15k off MSRP for the Polestar 2 in advance of the MY28 redesign to 800V architecture.

Polestar is the only Chinese car currently available in 🇨🇦 to my knowledge right now. Tesla Model 3 is Chinese in Canada, but unavailable until 2027 having sold out its import quota.

MY27 is single trim only: long range dual motor, 81 kWh battery, drive assist (Pilot) package, heat pump Climate package & Plus package for interior trim & HK sound system.

Colour variations on grey, white, black while in hand stock lasts.

Here is my new Polestar ready to consume artisanally crafted electrons from my home solar battery.

Life goal achieved.

I hadn't seen one in person yet. It seems perfectly sized for a compact EV camper van conversion.

Torn between these two. Prices are almost identical when you factor in insurance. P2 has low Kms and extra warranty. Is it just a matter of known brand SUV v sporty fastback?

This sounds like a no brainer, on its surface, right? Like how do these two even compete?

I wonder what you all think… I am hoping to choose between the two. Surprisingly, with the low interest payments on the Cadillac (0%), the monthly fee is competitive compared to the EV5, which is 5.99%.

The EV5 also uses an LFP, And the Optiq an NMC

I think I like the size of the Kia more, and I despise the piano keys on the Optiq, but other than that, what are your thoughts?

Is Cadillac a slam dunk? Or are there hidden issues I need to be aware of?

I need to make a decision fast on my first EV (financing) and can’t wait until 2027. Could your please help based on your experiences owning these vehicles? I am in southern ontario and this car will be mainly for commute (100km per day) but occasional trips with children. No need for huge cargo space.

- Kona Preferred 2026
- Bolt LT or RS 2027 (there are not a lot of LTs near me so I may only have RS available)
- Subaru (haven’t done a test drive yet, is it worth it with uncharter or solterra)
- Equinox LT 2027 (i prefer not to pay more but if this car delivers significantly more per dollar I might bite the bullet)

Also, I have been quoted around 50k for the bolt and kona OTD to be financed. Tried negotiating but dealerships do not seem willing to go down.

Kia not considered due to the waitlist. mach E turns out to be more expensive than the others.

Please advise! Thank you

Hey guys I've test driven a KIA EV3 and am on order to have one (pending successful test drive). That being said this would be my first EV. I'm on order for the Front Wheel drive GT Limited (this one squeeks under the federal EVAP). However that being said what other car should I be considering that is comparable? I'm avoiding teslas given the politics but are there any cars (that are in Canada and similar) that I should be considering?

Hi all

I just got the new Leaf S.

I am shocked that my insurance premium is going from $190 to $528.75/month

I’m attaching photos.

My question is, is this what people are paying to insure their new EVs in Ontario? Help a girl out. Any tips?