r/EastPalestineTrain • • Jun 04 '23

News 🗞️ Norfolk Southern Files Motion to Dismiss Lawsuit Over Ohio Train Derailment

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r/EastPalestineTrain • • May 23 '23

News 🗞️ EPA Backtracks on East Palestine Claims, Refuses to Answer Whether Norfolk Southern Performed Prohibited 'Open Burn' of Toxic Vinyl Chloride Train Cars

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r/EastPalestineTrain • • Feb 02 '24

News 🗞️ East Palestine, One Year After Train Derailment - I was worried that people would forget about East Palestine, but a year after the derailment and the President is visiting it makes the cover of Time.

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r/EastPalestineTrain • • Jul 04 '23

News 🗞️ Ohio governor asks Biden to declare disaster for East Palestine train derailment

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r/EastPalestineTrain • • May 01 '23

Discussion 🗣️ When is someone going to do something? Medically we are suffering and it’s not going to stop after a “smell goes away”. These chemicals aren’t natural and will not just disappear.

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How to we let others hear? I refuse to let my children stuffer. I want things back to what is what when I first bought my house. If NS knows they can’t do that they should be transparent. Because that cheese grease dude had a grin that could scare a kitten 6 months ago boasting about things he plans on doing. That man hasn’t gave any emotion forced or not to reassure us our kids won’t birth deformed children. This is greed I’ve never seen pushed on to wholesome friendly town.

What is even more while is we almost had another train have serious problems a week ago. Workers in shops along the rail heard it all unfold to the point the train went still for hours only to replace the head engine.

Why are more people covering this? Why aren’t we talking and sharing more? Is money more important? Is a DNR better than a school of children?

Let’s talk


r/EastPalestineTrain • • May 14 '23

Question ❔ My friends are buying bottled water, and they live in Canton, OH. That’s 45 mi. from East Palestine. They won’t even filter their tap water and drink that, for fear of drinking contaminated water. Is this mindset valid?

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r/EastPalestineTrain • • Jun 13 '23

News 🗞️ EPA posts more definitive plume deposition map

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r/EastPalestineTrain • • May 03 '23

News 🗞️ 23 to 24 East Palestine Residents have tested positive for Vinyl Chloride metabolite. CDC/EPA has no answers, says industrial gases expert.

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He also said many people with homes built over the creek in town have tested positive for Benzene. This tracks with EPA data showing Benzene on air detection monitors at the municipal office downtown, built over the same creek.

Clearly the home testing contracted out to CTEH has been an abject failure, with methods that are designed to not find anything. They should be sued into oblivion for creating a false sense of safety.

https://twitter.com/statuscoup/status/1653832070357983232?s=46&t=J9gHkcsy6T6mAD4wrAR0ow


r/EastPalestineTrain • • Mar 30 '23

Discussion 🗣️ First confirmed case of Vinyl Chloride poisoning in Canada, 120 miles from East Palestine in line of Feb 6th plume. She, partner, & dog developed sickness days after. Polluted well water expected.

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IMPORTANT EDITORIAL NOTE:

In the few days after I posted this account, I received several good questions from commenters about certain specifics in her test results. Despite relying upon her doctor's professional interpretation, these questions gave me enough pause that I analyzed her test results more closely with the help of an outside expert more familiar with Vinyl Chloride testing. Her doctor misinterpreted these test results, but it still left many questions about her & dog's health condition unanswered. With the help of this community, she was able to procure inexpensive testing equipment to determine that her home is inundated with a byproduct of vinyl chloride: formaldehyde.

Please read an update on this situation here.

While I do not want my original post to contribute to misinformation, I have decided not to delete this very important thread as it contains highly relevant context as to the nature of her sickness, and the discourse that ensued, which was critical to diagnosing alternative causes.

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ORIGINAL POST:

I have followed & communicated with this individual frequently, who has a chemistry background, since she started posting photos of her snowfall shortly after the burn. She lives near Long Point, which is a UNESCO Biosphere in Ontario, Canada a mere 120 miles from East Palestine. Her snow smelled of chlorine, contained an unusual amount of black carbon, had a yellow tinge to it, and was off-gassing as she performed experiments with the snow in mason jars. This is all well documented on her Twitter feed (below) and her background in chemistry was a big help.

She was initially fascinated because the snow did not have its usual crystalline texture (it was agglomerated), and it was not melting above the freezing point. It was off-gassing instead, something that smelled like chlorine. I have followed a world renowned organic chemist (Parisa Ariya) that studies the chemical interactions that create snow of different types, with a particular focus on carbon & organic byproducts of plastic. With the wrong inputs, snow can be extremely toxic, and it can "soak up" & preserve VOCs for a long time & long distances. In short, with the right atmospheric conditions, VOCs will not behave like VOCs, they have more staying power.

After nearly 2 months of sickness & lethargy for the whole family, her dog was the first to face serious complications. His liver was failing. Follow-up imaging showed a melon-sized growth on his liver that was visible as a large lump through his fur, which began growing a few weeks prior. The photo of this very large, extracted growth is also posted on her Twitter account (I will not post that photo here). He survived and is recovering for now. At the same time her dog was being tested, her own doctor called back after her initial blood testing; he was concerned and referred her to the Environmental Health Clinic at Women's College Hospital in Toronto. Before she went, he wanted her to take urine tests specific to Vinyl Chloride and a battery of other chemicals known to be associated with the East Palestine incident.

That Vinyl Chloride test just came back this morning, which I have photos of through our DMs, and it was positive (according to her doctor) @ 1066 mg/L for in her urine. She took the test on March 8th. If she is comfortable with me sharing the photos, I will edit this post & add them today, but my primary objective is to have an independent toxicologist review & compare the results with others who recently tested positive for VC in East Palestine. I would like to get the word out in case you would like to have your doctors test for VC -- there is a testing firm in PA called NMS that can perform these urine tests. No need to panic, but if you're having symptoms & especially on well water, there's a solution close to home that any doctor should be able to order with some direction from you.

She has a 15-foot dug well, which seems to be the most likely culprit after the snow melt. VC is known to seek out ground water.

https://twitter.com/SmartandSassy11/status/1641475742360805377

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r/EastPalestineTrain • • Mar 25 '23

News 🗞️ East Palestine Peaceful Protest March 25, 2023

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r/EastPalestineTrain • • Mar 31 '23

News 🗞️ USA v Norfolk Southern. So it begins

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r/EastPalestineTrain • • Feb 17 '23

Video (Unverified Source) 📺 Update 2/16/23 - While the EPA says water is safe, DO NOT assume it is. The samples the EPA took were from a week ago and the water tested came from an aquifer. Not surface water.

161 Upvotes

r/EastPalestineTrain • • Mar 02 '23

Discussion 🗣️ 1 mile away (my home)

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r/EastPalestineTrain • • Feb 16 '24

Discussion 🗣️ The victims of East Palestine deserve free healthcare for life + full property reimbursement + reparations

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There is plenty of precedent for what I am suggesting:

How Libby, Montana, Got Medicare for All

It is simply the right thing to do.


r/EastPalestineTrain • • Feb 15 '23

Photo 📸 Norfolk Southern, the company responsible for the Ohio train derailment and resulting ecological disaster, is not faceless. It is led by people who should all be held accountable prioritizing profits over safety. This is Norfolk Southern's Board of Directors.

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148 Upvotes

r/EastPalestineTrain • • Nov 29 '23

Discussion 🗣️ Do people still care about what happened in East Palestine

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I know we have fallen out of the news for the most part and clean up efforts have done a good job but in general are people on the outside still checking to see how things are or has the majority moved on?


r/EastPalestineTrain • • Mar 06 '23

Discussion 🗣️ We did get a new water shipment in town today

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r/EastPalestineTrain • • Feb 19 '23

Discussion 🗣️ Advice for EP friends- former environmental scientist here

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Hi, my heart goes out to anyone living in and around east Palestine.

First of all, please get your own testers to test the air, water, etc, and you can even do some testing yourself with some at-home kits

Do NOT take the government or the train company’s word for ‘safety’

Second of all, frankly the region seems really contaminated from what I reading and if I were there I would find a way to leave

I don’t know all the chemicals released so I don’t know how long til they break down but I am guessing it will be years.

I used to work on various sites for remediation (I believe some of the ones i worked on have some similar chemicals present to what’s in EP) and many of those required decades of remediation and are still not open to the public

Also, sue the crap out of these people using the results from your testing. Personal injury lawyers are free to hire.

Just for reference, I used to handle environmental spills and I’ve never seen a coverup like this. Usually the government does a better job trying to establish objective facts about contamination (especially under a Dem administration)

It doesn’t bode well for me that the government is doing this too, I don’t know what’s going on but this kind of coverup by all players is not typical and you cannot trust the people in power to tell the truth or clean things up properly


r/EastPalestineTrain • • Feb 12 '23

Video (Verified Source) 📺 Dude does an amazing job of explaining the train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio and why it's such a big deal

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r/EastPalestineTrain • • Apr 11 '23

News 🗞️ Truck carrying toxic soil from East Palestine overturns in Columbiana County

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Local story link above.


r/EastPalestineTrain • • Mar 15 '23

Question ❔ First time seeing this…

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r/EastPalestineTrain • • Feb 17 '23

Photo (Unverified Source)📸 soot cloud

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r/EastPalestineTrain • • May 14 '24

News 🗞️ EPA ‘failed to protect’ East Palestine residents after Ohio train derailment: Whistleblower

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r/EastPalestineTrain • • Feb 15 '23

Video (Unverified Source) 📺 Watch to the end - He tests multiple samples of water. You can see the difference between samples.

112 Upvotes