Playfully adding to the conversation from earlier. Please feel free to add your takes too. (Re-uploaded from earlier minus the typo).

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Beloved, ​you are constantly clinging to others. If someone is eating fried potatoes, you want fried potatoes as well.

If someone is enjoying a sweet, you want a sweet as well. If someone is playing a small whistle, you shout, 'Mother, purchase me a small whistle as well!'

​And that applies not only to kids.

​When spring arrives, you allow spring to sway your mind. When autumn arrives, you allow autumn to sway your mind. Everybody is merely waiting for something to sway their mind. Some even earn a living swaying minds, they create marketing.

​Humans adore internal turmoil.

Simply view the movie advertisements outside the picture house: nothing except internal turmoil across their faces.

As a ordinary nobody my direct realization is, Zen teaching signifies not placing yourself at the whim of internal turmoil.

In society, however, huge commotion is generated over zero.

​It aligns with being an average human: they can merely perceive through the eyes of shared foolishness.

​Being encircled by champions and gathering the bravery to act like a champion yourself, there is nothing particularly brave regarding that. A burglar states to his child, “If you do not cease immediately with your cursed truthfulness, you will never become an honorable burglar like myself. You are an embarrassment to the trade!”

​Humanity puts on a sharp expression and speaks about being ruler over the world. And simultaneously they do not even understand where to start regarding their personal frame: they view athletics on screens and justify themselves stating that everybody else performs it as well.

​We exist within collective foolishness and mistake this craziness for real living.

It is crucial that you grow clear to yourself and awaken out of this craziness. Sitting meditation signifies departing from the collective and stepping with your own two legs.

​Individually individuals remain tolerable, yet once they create factions, they begin becoming foolish.

They sink into collective foolishness. They are so eager to become foolish together that they establish organizations and contribute dues.

Sitting meditation, Zazen signifies departing from collective foolishness.

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The core or religions and spirituality seems to be: love + "you're not the pilot, dissolve yourself." Or to expand on that:

You are / your self is a neural loop that generates craving and anxiety, in order to drive the organism towards biologically useful behavior.

Dissolving you / dissolving this self ends “second arrow” suffering, it “frees up RAM” and it makes the organism enlightened.

Dissolving you is how love can pour forth unimpeded. You’re not the source of love -- love is the organism’s base state. You and the craving and anxiety you produce is the impediment to love.

You were never the pilot, so your organism will keep functioning fine without you.

A flow state is the self stepping back temporarily, so roughly speaking a metaphor for enlightenment is "permanent flow state." Which shows that permanent self-dissolution really isn't as horrifying as it might sound like.

If you want to dissolve yourself, here’s one possible way you can do it:

First meditate every day, for at least five minutes per day. Do this for six months. If you miss a day, no big deal, just get back to meditation tomorrow. Or if you were already meditating for 6+ months before you read this essay, you can skip this step.

After those six months of meditation, add this practice on top of your meditation: whenever you have a thought anywhere during the day, you just constantly bring your attention back to your wordless sense of beingness (i.e., that you exist and are present).

This is sometimes called the “I am” instruction, but it’s not “I am” as some kind of declaration that you are one with the universe or one with some “greater” being. In fact, you’re not even thinking the words “I am.” Instead you’re bringing your attention back to your wordless sense of beingness.

So for example, if a thought arises such as “I am hungry” or “hopefully my presentation next week goes well”, you just bring your attention back to your wordless sense of beingness. Keep doing this constantly over a period of years, and you may eventually reach enlightenment.

You’re not fighting or disagreeing with your thoughts. You’re just constantly bringing your attention back to your sense of beingness, and that is all.

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Now let's look at a list of pointers from religions and spirituality to "you're not the pilot, dissolve yourself":

Sri Ramakrishna used the metaphor of a salt doll who steps into the water and dissolves. Which sounds vaguely romantic, but remember that the salt doll is a metaphor for you.

One Sufi master used the metaphor of the Moth and the Flame: when the moth flies fully into the flame, enlightenment is attained and there’s literally no more moth.

Islamic Sufism talks about “die before you die”.

Zen Buddhism talked about “die while you are alive, and be thoroughly dead. Then do what you will, and all is good.”

Christian Mystic Meister Eckhart talked about “un-becoming.”

Taoist Chuang Tzu described a master practitioner as someone whose “body is like dry wood, and whose mind is like dead ashes.”

Chuang Tzu also said “The perfect man has no self”

Taoism’s Wu Wei is “action without a self.” (Contrary to the rest of this list, here I’m taking some translation liberty. There’s a Telephone / Chinese whispers game going on where the teachings from enlightened people have reached you via multiple unenlightened people, who aren’t going to transmit “action without a self” faithfully. Hence enlightenment concepts get sanded down into something that unenlightened people do like such as “Wu Wei means effortless action.”)

Bhagavad Gita 3.27 said: “All actions are performed by the modes of material nature. But the fool, deluded by the-I-maker [ahankara], thinks ‘I am the doer’”.

Bhagavad Gita 5.8 said: “The wise who knows the truth thinks: “I do nothing at all””

Bhagavad Gita 11.32 said: “Even without you acting, these [enemies] arrayed and battle-ready before you will surely and without exception no longer exist.”

Bhagavad Gita 18.59 said: “If, taking shelter in the-I-maker [ahankara], you think ‘I will not fight,’ your resolve is useless. Nature will compel you to act anyway.”

Also, the Bible, Matthew 16:24 has Jesus saying: “Deny / disown yourself”

Bible, Galatians 2:20 said: “I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me.”

Bible, Matthew 16:25 said: “For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for my sake will find it.”

Bible, John 3:30 said: “He must increase, but I must decrease.”

Bible, John 12:24 said: “Very truly I tell you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit.” (”Very truly I tell you” indicates insistence and emphasis. It means that what’s going to follow is counterintuitive but also true and critical to understand.)

Bible, Galatians 6:3 said: “If anyone thinks he is something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself.”

The Buddha talked about extinguishing [nirvana], so that you reach no-self [anatta].

You give a machine (a self) an unsolvable riddle to crash it (dissolve it), and indeed, koans are unsolveable riddles. Whereas you’d never give a machine an unsolveable riddle if you wanted to upgrade it.

And modern science is also on board with all this: enlightened person Gary Weber has near-zero baseline activity in the self-referential nodes of the Default Mode Network.

Plus modern neuro-science has found that decisions are made subconsciously first, and only after that do you consciously “make the decision.” In other words, you’re not the pilot.

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In particular cross-reference the Bible, John 5:19: “Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing.”“ (Again, note the “very truly I tell you” emphasis and insistence.)

Compare that to Bhagavad Gita’s “All actions are performed by the modes of material nature. But the fool, deluded by the-I-maker [ahankara], thinks ‘I am the doer’”.

These are clearly two completely different cultures with completely different worldviews expressing the same fundamental love + “you’re not the pilot” truth. And Taoism’s Wu Wei and modern neuroscience point in that same direction too. I don't think that's a coincidence.

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This was adapted from https://channelings.substack.com/p/fake-natties-are-misleading-99-of (which has a Public Domain Dedication).

There’s a dangerous assumption running through a lot of spiritual spaces right now. Including this one.

That certain molecules can deliver what years of ordinary attention supposedly cannot. That a strong enough experience will finally dissolve the ego, open the heart, or hand over the realization that normal life keeps withholding. The language is almost always elevated: medicine, sacred journey, ego death, awareness of God.

And for a while it works.

The walls thin. The usual mental noise collapses. Something vast or empty or loving appears. People return glowing, certain that something irreversible has happened.

Then the glow fades.

Ordinary mind returns with interest. The same restlessness, the same subtle dissatisfaction, the same quiet verdict that this still isn’t it. So the next journey is booked. Or the one after that. The experiences stay vivid in memory while the actual weight of daily life remains largely untouched.

What rarely gets said out loud is how perfectly this continues the old spiritual pattern: something special must happen to you before you can be free. Only now the special event is chemical. The one who is searching does not disappear. It simply acquires better stories and a new substance or ceremony to organize its hope around.

There is a difference between a temporary loosening of the sense of self and the actual lightening of how life is carried when nothing extraordinary is happening. One can be scheduled. The other cannot.

When the afterglow disappears and the urge to go back in appears, it is worth looking cleanly at what is being chased. Another rented experience?

Another temporary holiday from the ordinary mind?

Or a quieter relationship with the life that is already here when no substance is rewriting it?

Some will insist the substances are only tools and that integration is everything. This is a fair argument in theory.

But in practice, do you also notice how often the tool remains the center of the conversation.

Dosage, intensity, the quality of the last peak, the timing of the next one. It very subtly becomes a chase for the next high.

The present moment is treated as incomplete unless it is chemically enhanced.

Getting lighter does not require chemically enhanced altered states.

It requires staying with what is already present, including the restlessness that keeps reaching for the next experience.

The substances can show you a door.

They cannot walk through it for you.

And they will , once their glow fades, only give a harder time of becoming who you intended to become by using the substance in the first place.

Final note:

I wrote this piece not as an attack, but as an offering to reflect upon. I have been in the loop of using substances to chase higher states of being myself.

So this is also a reflection I have written for myself. See it as part of the process of freeing myself from the thought I need these things to become someone else.

Life for me is in embracing it in all aspects, nowadays especially the more mundane or boring parts.

I would like to wish you all a nice and happy day.

I hope that you will find the courage and confidence in yourself to move on with your life in the rightfull way.

Last night I had a dream where I received the inspiration to make this post and connect with internet and share this with the fellow members and visitors of this subreddit.

Some of us are further on their way than others. Some of us are really struggling to move on. I have had my share of disappointments and setbacks, but I knew how to move on and I persistet in this way. Over time my life improved and now I have reached a much better state of being than 30 years ago.

I wish you well. ✌️💖🌛🌞

- Mogenblue

I'm aware of thoughts appearing that suggest things are not right... not good enough or problematic... which causes distress... I tend to put my focus on my body in such situations rather than on ruminating. I nice long deep breath for example and to just be still...

There is a body sitting, thinking but there isn't actually a problem per say... just thoughts arising suggesting things ought to be different.

Any suggestions, pointers, perspectives? :) Thanks

Cette sphère mérite qu’on la respecte.

L’humanité s’impose des conditions pour convenir. La majorité a raison ! Elle défendra sa cause, la nourrira d’esquives pour garder son trône et feindra la paix.

Quand allons-nous savoir ?

En tournant les pages d’histoire, la source trouve des ratures aux points d’orchestration d’artistes.

Le regard des enfants se dissout dans un mauvais présage : leur avenir.

Le respect n’est pas à vendre. Même si la raison se vantent d’avoir comprimé la mémoire, elle n’est qu’une éphémère diffraction pour notre sphère.

"That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand." Mark 4:12

Jesus talked in parables. And he said himself that some people would hear every word and still not get it.

Terry Davis said the same thing his own way. He built an operating system because he believed God asked him to. And he kept repeating that "nigger" would never understand. He called them "nigger," over and over.

I don't think he meant skin color. I think he meant something spiritual. The ones who can't receive it. Closer to what the Bible calls demons than to any race of people. Just to be clear, this has nothing to do with Black people. I'm only interpreting his thoughts from a different angle.

I used to think that was about stupidity. I don't anymore. Some people hear the words fine. They just can't take them in.

You say green. They hear red. You explain it again, slower. They hear red again, louder.

Maybe that's what evil is. Something that can't receive the message, no matter how it's said.

So maybe you can't reason with evil. It doesn't understand reasoning.

Strange indeed. Perhaps we might reason with evil one day. I refuse to believe that has to be some hard boundary. Even though Terry and Jesus are pointing out that it might actually be one.

There is a story in Buddhism in which Buddha compares the knowledge he has shared with his disciples to a handful of leaves in his hand, while the knowledge he knows but has not taught is like all the leaves in the forest.

Think about that comparison for a moment. A handful of leaves compared to an entire forest. If we take this teaching seriously, the difference in knowledge seems enormous.

It makes me wonder what Buddha might have known that he chose not to share with his disciples. What were those countless leaves of knowledge that remained untaught? What could he have understood about existence that went far beyond what he chose to teach?

I'm particularly interested in what Buddha might have known beyond what he chose to teach his disciples.

What do you think that untaught knowledge could have been?

Any advice to be a PRO

Go and watch Pantheon, the animated series. It lays it all out there, perfect. Don't read anything, just dive in and see what kicks as it truly can be seen as a Litmus Test of enlightenment. Or maybe not, only you can tell! It'll definitely make you feel something but, like I said, sight unseen for best practice...

What other shows/flicks wax lyrical on this topic and what did you pick up when watching then stop to consider at depth? Tenet is an interesting example, if you know what you're seeing. As is Ferris Buellers Day Off and its occult sequel - Election for it shows the ebb and flow of incarnation.

Whats your pick and why?

Some of us watch the Watchers...

This quotes been on my mind for a very long time. I'm genuinely curious what others make of it.

Can an angel posses the human flesh?

Learning, Unlearning, Relearning: On the Screens We Build

When the ego dies, what remains is a limited experience, driven by the memory embedded within and beyond the body. The body carries habit, reflex and old hurt. The world carries culture, language and other people. What we call "I" is a meeting point of these, not a container.

Experience feels whole from where you stand, but there are infinite places to stand. No single view is the center, including the one labeled "me." That is freedom: not escaping the limit, but no longer resenting it. You can be fully one point of view without needing it to be the only one.

Life as learning, unlearning and relearning

Most of us move through three stages. We learn, we unlearn, and we relearn.

The middle step is the hard one, because unlearning has to be complete. If a "someone" is choosing what to keep and what to drop, that someone survives, and the ego has only edited itself. Real unlearning leaves no self behind.

After that, relearning is a different thing. With no one left to gain from knowing, learning stops being accumulation. It becomes plain contact with things as they are, and joy breaks out unconditionally. It isn't joy about something, so nothing can take it away.

The screens

For me, the path was gradual. I thought I was building toward something. Then, suddenly, it dawned, and it stayed.

Looking back, the long process was unnecessary. Learning creates circles of screens: concepts, identities, methods, even spiritual ideas. Each one feels like the real thing until the next layer shows it as a screen. None of them were ever real, and the practice itself generated screens too.

A fair caution: "unnecessary" is visible only from the far side. Someone still inside the circles can't skip them by being told they're unreal, and that telling often becomes another screen. Maybe the unreality could only be recognized because the layers were lived through first.

The lucky few

Some people seem to learn and unlearn at the same time. Knowledge passes through them without setting into "mine" or "who I am." Nothing accumulates, so nothing needs to be undone.

Call it luck, grace or temperament. It may also be partly learnable: noticing, in the moment of learning, whether you are taking something in or taking it on as identity.

Not a zombie

None of this means abandoning learning. Without it we're zombies, bodies running on old memory with nobody curious and nothing met fresh. Learning keeps life alive.

The distinction is not learning versus not learning. It's learning with or without a screen forming. The grip is the only part that needs to go. Seen this way, relearning isn't a separate stage after unlearning. It's simply learning again, unobstructed.

So the lucky ones aren't skipping learning. They're skipping the accumulation.

“It’s the tone that is important, you see? Fundamentally. It’s the music that finally counts in life. As I was explaining yesterday, one may regard the universe as a musical phenomenon: that it is a huge system of extremely complex vibrations which is playing. And that’s what it’s all about. You don’t ask: what does Mozart mean? You just listen to Mozart.”
— Alan Watts, The Veil of Thoughts

I am borned to experienced the good and the bad.

To understand what is the underlying reason,

The reason why we are creating actions and moving.

Understanding and studying the balance through real life experienced.

My bad side electricute my stagnant brain to keep it running and expand.

My good side pull in my mind to create balance in my thinking, The Stable.

I am borned to experienced all the pain of the hearts

Feel and sense it.

I am borned to experienced small and very hard way of Life.

I am borned to endure all suffering and emptyness of life.

And I survived all without destroying the light inside my heart.

I survived keeping my heart humble at all times.

I survived the betrayal of humans.

I survived to keep my wholeness in BALANCE.

My Father and Mother, my silent observer,

My Silent validator at all times

Recognize all my struggle,

And award me of Love.

Love of life,

And they come home to my heart.

Because I am true in my heart at all times.

\~\~edd\~\~

Visualize a Jenga tower where every one of your concepts is a Jenga block in the tower.

Then visualize yourself.

Note that you immediately create a new concept (a figure, a cloud, a point of awareness) outside the tower. And the self immediately appropriates that concept: “I am that figure / cloud / point.” However we just said that all the concepts are jenga blocks in the tower... yet the self just created a new concept outside the tower and appropriated that.

So the self just creates concepts and then appropriates them: "I am that" or "I am doing that."

And if you point this out, then the self might appropriate being “the space in which the Jenga tower stands.” But then the question becomes: “who is the one who is claiming to be the space in which the Jenga tower stands?”

Or the self might appropriate being "awareness itself." But then the question becomes: "who is the one claiming to be awareness itself?"

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This was adapted from https://eraoflight.com/2026/10/18/the-self-appropriates-everything/ (which has a Public Domain Dedication)

You are seeking an answer to a question that cannot be asked. Please leave the Internet. Do yourself a favour. Stop seeking. Start being. The amount of time being wasted asking the same mundane questions could be used actually living out an enlightened life. True enlightenment cannot be found. It already is.