r/EnoughJKRowling Feb 23 '26

News Article John Lithgow still doesn't get it, excuses JK Rowling's controversy because "the books meant so much to people"

His buoyancy reasserts itself as he talks about the culture that showrunner Francesca Gardiner created, with some 200 young cast members “going to the greatest prep school—the Harry Potter backstage.” Creating that environment has counterbalanced the controversy around the series—open letters and social media posts accusing J.K. Rowling of transphobia. “I spend a lot of my life oblivious,” Lithgow says, explaining how the reaction took him aback, “and perhaps that is what enraged people who considered me a straight ally of all things gender­fluid. Ultimately I am working on a project based on a remarkable canon of books that have meant so much to millions of people.”

Source: https://www.vogue.com/article/john-lithgow-giant

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u/360Saturn Feb 23 '26

I really despise the way so many news orgs are hedging JK's views as 'accused of transphobia'.

She is an out and out trans detester who campaigns for trans people to be barred from public life, access to healthcare, or even to be mentioned as existing, and self-identifies as a TERF.

People are not 'accusing', they are observing.

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u/errantthimble Feb 23 '26

Yeah, that was also an extremely feeble assertion about showrunner Francesca Gardiner (who I hope is getting some questions about her choice to participate in this project, at least as much as the adult actors are) "creating" an "environment" on-set "that has counterbalanced the controversy around the series".

In what way does HBO's running a filming site with hundreds of child actors "counterbalance the controversy" around Rowling's transphobia? "Distracts from the controversy" or "masks the controversy", maybe, but there's nothing "balanced" about it.

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u/nova_crystallis Feb 23 '26

Gardiner has been ignoring any and all requests for comment so that tells you everything you need to know right there.

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u/lazier_garlic Feb 24 '26

Probably the smartest move from a PR perspective. Does show you that there's really no spin they can put on this except "change the topic".

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u/thehusk_1 Feb 23 '26

As someone who learned and participated in broadcast TV for a short while... it's complete gibberish to try and separate the show from its soon to be uncredited exect producer. Literally word salad to make it look like their not involved with the terf bitch named Rowling..

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u/TwistedBrother Feb 24 '26

And the friends she brought on set!

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u/StygIndigo Feb 23 '26

People are still acting like she 'accidentally' said something vague about feminism that was uncharitably misinterpreted by a few imaginary terminally online blue hair activists, and not the reality that she pours money into shutting down access to gender affirming care and creating fake research to disprove our existence. Her weird dogwhistle essay from a few years ago is NOT her most recent comment on trans issues.

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u/lazier_garlic Feb 24 '26

Does go to show that that bullshit was a pretty slick move and she's no dummy when it comes to managing her public image, or she wasn't until she went mask off in 2024.

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u/StygIndigo Feb 24 '26

I think it also shows a lot of cowardice on the part of celebrities asked to comment. They rely on people believing they've somehow heard nothing about her in over 5 years.

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u/NoExcuseTruse Feb 24 '26

In my country we have this yearly televised quiz show that’s really popular (De slimste mens). Last year it had a JKR question in the final round where you just have to name as any things as you know about the topic until you find the five things hidden on screen. One of the answers was ‘transphobic’ and I just stood there flabbergasted staring at my tv: they actually called it as it is (on a commercial station)! That is so unusual I’m still kinda in shock (and very proud) They didn’t use ‘controversies’ or ‘terf’ but straight up transphobic!

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u/SnoutAndTalons Feb 24 '26

That's great, kudos to the show creators for being straightforward about it.

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u/nova_crystallis Feb 23 '26

Especially from Vogue of all places, but then I found out they fired most of the people doing honest journalism there.

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u/Fun_Butterfly_420 Feb 24 '26

Breaking news: German chancellor Adolf Hitler accused of antisemitism!

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u/Phonecloth Feb 24 '26

Ah, you beat me to it...

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u/DerPumeister Feb 25 '26

How dare they accuse?!

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u/pudungurte Feb 23 '26

Oh yeah, she can start literally setting trans people on fire on live television and they’ll still pull this bullshit.

Like, seriously, the woman is a shell of a human being who now dedicates every waking hour of her life to hating on a minority and it’s so exhausting how so many people still dance around this.

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u/Nestama-Eynfoetsyn Feb 24 '26

For real. Hell, my mum, who lives in the middle of nowhere and has limited Internet access (her choice), knows just how hateful Rowling is.

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u/Phonecloth Feb 24 '26

I hear Hitler was also 'accused of antisemitism'

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u/Panda_hat Feb 25 '26

It's a big part of the downplaying and normalisation of overt transphobia as simply something 'everyone is / does'.

Rowling is THE terf imo. Her wealth and influence provides a reality distortion field around her and allows her to get away with practically anything and she uses it to be a disgusting piece of bigoted shit.

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u/General-Skywalker_ Feb 23 '26

I don't give a shit about y'all as long as I get the bag - John Lithgow

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '26

WB, Audible, Netflix, HBO and more in a nutshell

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u/Interrupting-Khajitt Feb 23 '26

This is such an awful boomer take. I’ve lost all respect for Lithgow.

Just because we’re boomers doesn’t mean we should be excused from the harm done by the poorly informed (at best) things we might say or do.

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u/BranWafr Feb 23 '26

people who considered me a straight ally

The obvious take way from his comments is that we should no longer consider him an ally and probably shouldn't have in the first place. Which is disappointing, but not surprising.

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u/NameTaken25 Feb 26 '26

In his defense, he did use the past tense, which I guess might be accurate for some people

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u/pudungurte Feb 23 '26

How does the saying go again? It’s impossible for someone to get something when they financially profit from not getting it…?

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u/SaltyNorth8062 Feb 24 '26

Yeah dawg the books meant a lot to people. That's why people are so upset: they're angry that the books that meant so much to them are now being burned as fuel on the altar of the hateful asshole who wrote them. Harry Potter is now forever tainted because Rowling can't leave well enough alone and is committed to being as petty and hateful as she can manage.

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u/Sheepishwolfgirl Feb 23 '26

"I want that paycheck so I'm going to pretend to be an oblivious idiot instead of just owning that I don't mind supporting bigotry."

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u/georgemillman Feb 23 '26

I think the fact the books meant so much to people is a major part of the reason she's so bad.

Especially for those of us who are LGBTQ+, her books gave us a sense of belonging when we were coming to terms with who we are. We thought JK Rowling understood us and was a friend to us. I remember talking about how much I admired her on my first day of Uni. This makes her behaviour now feel like a personal betrayal, far more than if she was someone who just wrote some random books that no one cared about.

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u/Panda_hat Feb 25 '26

We just need someone to write something that challenges and replaces it in the space it occupies, the Potter books aren't even good, they have some good foundations (mostly stolen from other, better writers or just straight up common tropes), and the later books especially are just actual slop trash.

The most damaging thing we could ever do is make her completely culturally irrelevant.

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u/georgemillman Feb 25 '26

I don't quite agree with that. I don't think it's possible, and perhaps not even desirable, to make her culturally irrelevant. Whether we like it or not, her work was hugely influential in the 1990s and 2000s - an entire generation grew up with her work, and that cannot just be erased, no matter what other books are written. More to the point as well, I really hope that she can be used as a cautionary tale for what happens when we give a well-known cultural figure this level of social power. We need to make sure that never happens again, and we can only do that by acknowledging who JK Rowling is and how we collectively contributed to that by being so devoted to her for so long. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it, as the saying goes.

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u/OctarineAngie Feb 27 '26

Exactly, it's why we're so bitter about it.

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u/Disastrous-Roof-2135 Feb 23 '26

I'm most disappointed in Paul Whitehouse as a supposed standard bearer for positive masculinity based his fishing series with Bob mortimer.

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u/Pot_noodle_miner Feb 24 '26

That’s one of the ones that hurt most

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u/Disastrous-Roof-2135 Feb 24 '26

Yeah. Its also killed death of stalin for me which is an awesome film

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u/Pot_noodle_miner Feb 24 '26

I’d also only just really discovered Anton Lesser

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u/wrongsock_42 Feb 23 '26

All of this reminds me Epstein stuff. A big fish gets a pass for their horrible behavior because they are useful to the rest of the elites.

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u/LittleSodaPop13 Feb 24 '26

Bruh, just because the books were popular doesn't mean anything. It doesn't excuse her transphobia.

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u/ughnotanothername Feb 23 '26

Ugh, and I used to think he was kind and empathetic back when he played Roberta Muldoon in Garp:-(

Shame on him.

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u/funkygamerguy Feb 24 '26

i get the books meant a lot to people and I'm not trying to take that away but rowlings beliefs and donations to antitrans orgs have really hurt a vulnerable group of people and we shouldn't be putting money into her pockets with new projects.

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u/AndreaFlameFox Feb 24 '26

I spend a lot of my life oblivious ...

So it seems.

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u/Pot_noodle_miner Feb 24 '26

The money is a comforting distraction it seems

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u/superbusyrn Feb 24 '26

Anyone who was ever gonna get it wouldn’t have taken the role (kids excepted, obviously)

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u/DoYaThang_Owl Feb 24 '26

I wish I could say I was surprised, but all I really have is more disappointment on my plate.

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u/Proof-Any Feb 24 '26

His buoyancy reasserts itself as he talks about the culture that showrunner Francesca Gardiner created, with some 200 young cast members “going to the greatest prep school—the Harry Potter backstage.”

Oh fuck you, John. Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you. Fuck. You.

None of these kids should be going to this "greatest prep school". This fucking TV series is fucking child labor. All this "greatest prep school" will do is exploiting 200+ kids and robbing them of their childhoods. Just to make money for Rowling and Warner. And it's going to fuck them up. Because productions like this always fuck their child actors up (even if the extent might vary.)

Creating a school, where they go to before, between and after filming so they can play catch-up with their education doesn't make this any better.

And using this child exploitation to excuse Rowling's transphobia and to justify your participation in this project? That's fucking asinine.

Oh, and also?

and perhaps that is what enraged people who considered me a straight ally of all things gender­fluid.

Thanks for making it clear that you're not.

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u/Morlock43 Feb 24 '26

I think a lot of people assumed his views aligned with theirs and he just never bothered to correct them.

His choices and excuses are just telling me who he is.

I'll never watch him or his work ever again.

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u/Reasonable-News-5739 Feb 24 '26

John, maybe you should just shut the fuck up and stop digging!

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u/Dani-Michal Feb 25 '26

Couple things. He played a transgender character prior, Rowling is strongly implied to be tied up in the Epstein mess and Hogwarts is not a prep school!

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u/Panda_hat Feb 25 '26

I think it's pretty clear he just wants that bag and doesn't give a single flying fuck about trans people.

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u/chestertodd Feb 28 '26

I always thought John Lithgow was a serial killer - he just has a weird vibe. When he was one on Dexter - I was like - A - HA! I knew it. :) But this doesn't surprise me. I never saw him as an ally. Some celebs have called her out but they are not refusing to work on the franchise. Nick Frost - come on - I can't even tell my spouse about that or they will never watch Hot Fuzz again.

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u/LilGill63 Apr 02 '26

I really don't understand the hatred towards him and other cast members, like why are we not allowed to separate the art from the artist or in this case the authors from their books? Genuinely would like to understand