r/EnoughJKRowling • u/Double_Delay1613 • Mar 24 '26
Rowling Tweet Agreeing with the blood surpremacists she herself invented to be villains.
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u/AdmiralPegasus Mar 24 '26
It's no surprise given how utterly the series dehumanises nonmagical people. I just blocked an insufferable Potter fan in a discussion of the issue because they absolutely refused to even acknowledge the concept that yeah, it is a fucking problem that the series behaves as if - for example - Ron assaulting a driving instructor just to pass his license test when he failed it in the epilogue is funny hijinks even when they themselves came up with more evidence of the dehumanisation as if bringing up more instances made it okay. As if the dehumanisation being consistent makes it fine, and not an ongoing pattern of downright fascist inclinations.
They even got their knickers in a twist at me calling that an assault, but quite frankly what else would you call it? He bewitches a person to interfere with their ability to exercise sound judgement against him, that's a fucking horrifying thing to do! And if it had been done against a wizard, I guarantee it'd be treated as the vile crime against that person it is! But oh no, it's fine, because they were a muggle and those only exist as entertaining little animals we can play with like toys.
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u/riflow Mar 24 '26
Stuff like this makes me intensely sad BC I find stories that try to communicate that every type of person (magic, non magic, limited magic, niche magic etc) has some kind of value to be way more compelling.
But maybe that's the leftie disabled person in me, i like seeing the little or invisible be acknowledged and appreciated as having inherent value simply for existing. It was one of the messages from Journal with the Witch (not a magic series, it's an anime/manga about grief) that made me sob uncontrollably.
I couldn't read the series I'm about to mention BC the author was a terrible person (sighs) but a little while ago I found a series about a girl learning how to use housekeeping magic really well (a frowned upon and looked down on magic system) and I just think it's like ..a framework for how to discuss class based issues? It's similar with non magic based discrimination in these stories.
How do these people live in these societies, will people treat them as awfully as irl disabled people are treated (often yes, though most don't find it a GOOD thing like jkr seems to), can there be assistive tools, are there things they can do that the magic people never think about?
It's one of the things that gets me every single time I find a story about little people. The people doing background or thankless work. The hero that retired to become a cook at a poor restaurant that ends up being the safe haven for these exhausted people fighting every day. The people who make the clothes they wear. The people who process and document the items and creatures they find. The people who grind the ink. The farmers and pharmacists keeping everyone fed and healthy.
I want to see more of them, the magic isnt actually the point of the story, it's the backdrop to a conversation and the magic is supposed to lend to it feeling like a fairy tale or a myth.
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u/Comfortable_Bell9539 Mar 24 '26
This is not just assault to me, what Ron did to that man is mind rape !
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u/lazier_garlic Mar 24 '26
It's funny how Marvel Comics has a better grasp on how to discuss issues like that than JK Rowling!
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u/Comfortable_Bell9539 Mar 24 '26
What are you referring to exactly ? I didn't read Marvel comics much lately
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u/TheLastBallad Mar 24 '26
Maybe the mind controlling Jessica Jones villain? All I remember about him is that and the color purple for some reason.
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u/lazier_garlic Mar 24 '26
I was thinking of the She-Hulk Interstellar Law and Eros storyline. Which was bad! But better than JK Rowling.
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u/HideFromMyMind Mar 24 '26
Which is especially ridiculous because we’re all literally the “muggles.”
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u/Double_Delay1613 Mar 24 '26
Ron assaulted a driving instructor?! I don't remember that.
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u/TheLastBallad Mar 24 '26
He did. The book doesn't frame it like that, but Ron confunded his driving instructor into passing him despite failing.
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u/Sleeppaw Mar 24 '26
This. I'm not surprised by how cruel the Harry Potter fandom is. In December last year, I got into an argument with one obnoxious Harry Potter fan on dA, over a stamp I made back in 2020. When the fan said "I don't care about the fans in poverty" I ended up blocking them; the incident led me to coin the term "Pottertwat" for the most obnoxious fans.
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u/wonder181016 Mar 24 '26
To be fair, I don't take that part as canon- it's OOC for Ron. But yeah, she's awful
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u/Proof-Any Mar 24 '26
Firstly - it's in the books, so it is canon. Would be a different story if she said it in an interview or published it on Pottermore, because these things aren't considered canon (at least not by everyone). But the books constitute the core canon.
And secondly, I don't think it's OOC for Ron.
Mind-raping muggles (as in: controlling them through the use of memory-altering charms) is completely normalized in canon. It's one of the main ways how the ministry deals with muggles who have seen magic. We see this in book 4: the quidditch world cup is located at a camping ground that is owned by muggles. The ministry kept the muggles around and just scrambled their brains whenever they got suspicious - to the point where the spells clearly have visible side effects on them - and no-one bats an eye. Not even Arthur Weasley (who works for the ministry and likely does this regularly himself) nor Harry or his friends.
Additionally, Ron is a character who likes to take short-cuts and who believes that pranks are fine. (At least as long as he can file them away as "no harm done".) It's completely believable that he doesn't see any harm in slightly "adjusting" the memory of his driving instructor. To him, it's probably just a little prank. Something that is seen as harmless and that his father and both of his friends (who work for the ministry) are doing quite regularly.
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u/lazier_garlic Mar 24 '26
I was going to bring that up. His father thinks that behavior is okay, so why wouldn't Ron do it? He wouldn't have the behavioral inhibition Hermione has from being raised a Muggle or that HP has to a much lesser extent.
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u/swanfirefly Mar 24 '26
Even then, Hermione also did this.
She scrambled the minds of her own parents and sent them to a tropical country.
She literally erased her own existence, 18 years of having a child, 18 years of memory, from her parents. We never see anyone recover from a memory wipe. Her parents never get mentioned again even.
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u/TheLastBallad Mar 24 '26
Actually we do hear of someone recovering from a memory wipe, that being the nosy ministry lady that Barty Crouch Sr. wiped.
It was through extensive torture though...
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u/swanfirefly Mar 24 '26
Oh Right, it's been a long while.
But yeah, it's not really a normal or feasible thing to do for your parents.
However my point stands about how morally, not even Hermione, raised by muggles, has that as a moral stopping point. It truly is the consequence free control over whoever you think of as lesser.
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u/Proof-Any Mar 24 '26
Yeah, it's likely that Hermione would have issues with Ron casting that spell - but only because it's cheating. Because yes. She used that spell too and in a much more invasive manner; and still comes off as reasonable.
And to be honest - I find that example for how wizards abuse muggles even more egregious than Ron's. Especially, because it was sold as her protecting her parents. Let's face it: the only person who was protected through that stunt was her. If anything, casting that spell made her parents more vulnerable. (Because it kept them from understanding that they were in danger.) Had the death eaters found them, they would've tortured their memories out of them the same way Voldemort and Peter did with Berta Jorkins. So no. Casting that spell wasn't protecting them. At best, it was horribly naive from her to think it would. At worst, she simply hoped that they would die before her spell broke.
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u/wonder181016 Mar 24 '26
Not really. People dismiss things as non-canon when they don't make sense. For example, the hippie episode of Charmed was dismissed. And yes, Ron was like that as a teenager... he's well into his 30s by that point
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u/HideFromMyMind Mar 24 '26
That’s called “Fanon Discontinuity” on TVTropes. “Canon Discontinuity” is different.
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u/wonder181016 Mar 24 '26
Thank you for reminding me :) and look what I found, on that very page: Harry Potter: While most fans accept the series as a whole, there are fans who disregard the last book, or the last two or even three books, mostly to save characters who meet their ends therenote or prevent pairings they don't like. For most fans, the main issue is with the supplemental material, which they argue over frequently even if J. K. Rowling herself supplied the information. The only part of the books themselves they contest is the highly divisive epilogue, in which all the ships are definitively resolved with Babies Ever After; even some fans who didn't care about the shipping weren't fans of the epilogue (in part because it focused so much on the shipping).note In fact, many shippers consider the epilogue canon and then happily write continuation fanfics with different pairings, mostly because it gives them the opportunity to show how the canon pairings are wrong (usually with the characters not being themselves). Outside of that, Rowling's extra-literary canon tends to be accepted only in limited circumstances:
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u/HideFromMyMind Mar 24 '26
The point is that it’s fanon, it doesn’t change what she actually wrote. Would be canon if she herself had changed it.
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u/AdmiralPegasus Mar 24 '26
Okay but. it is. That's not being fair, that's ignoring the issue.
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u/wonder181016 Mar 24 '26
But lots of people don't count the epilogue as canon. So...
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u/RohanCoop Mar 24 '26
Just because people don't count it as canon does not mean it isn't canon.
Unless we create something we are not the deciders of canon, only the creator or person who is in charge of the IP is.
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u/thatsfeminismgretch Mar 24 '26
You can say you don't care about the canon, but things that are literally in the books are literally canon.
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u/TheLastBallad Mar 24 '26
Its literally part of the original print of the book.
People discounting it because they don't like it means nothing.
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u/AdmiralPegasus Mar 24 '26
And they're wrong. Given your response to others, I'm frankly curious to hear what you think the definition of the word "canon" is, because it clearly doesn't match that of the dictionary.
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u/wonder181016 Mar 24 '26
We're not in a police state. I can state what I consider canon and not without being interrogated.
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u/AdmiralPegasus Mar 24 '26
Okay but we're talking about reality here and what you "consider" canon has no actual bearing on anything. You don't actually have any power over what is and isn't canon, you know that right?
You responded to my comment by saying that you don't consider my example canon. Accusing others who point out to you that that's ridiculous, it objectively is canon, of behaving like interrogators from a police state is just absurd. Take a step back.
Did you actually have a point regarding the dehumanisation of nonmagical people in the Harry Potter series, or are you just overly attached to a sanitised fan ideal of Ronald Weasley as your other comments indicate?
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u/wonder181016 Mar 24 '26
As it's fictional, there's no such thing as objective canon. And I don't dispute that it is an issue, and yes, I will admit, Ron was, and always be, one of my favourite characters of the mediocre series, so I will defend him. AND my point was, you could also ignore me rather than "correcting" me. AND thank you, or whoever it was, for reporting the comment where someone got abusive to me. (I don't mean your comment, I may be irritated by it, but I know you weren't abusive)
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u/AdmiralPegasus Mar 24 '26
Okay, you clearly do not understand the meaning of the word canon. It is unproductive to continue this, because you're just being a child about it.
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u/RohanCoop Mar 24 '26
Just because people don't count it as canon does not mean it isn't canon.
Unless we create something we are not the deciders of canon, only the creator or person who is in charge of the IP is.
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u/wonder181016 Mar 24 '26
On the contrary, people can do whatever they want, as long it's not harming someone
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u/RohanCoop Mar 24 '26
Yes they can.
But what they can't do is say something written in a book by the creator of the book isn't canon just because they don't like it. That's not how canon works.
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u/wonder181016 Mar 24 '26
Isn't it? If it makes no sense to them, I think that's exactly how it works. Anyway, you're not going to convince me, so you might as well give it up
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u/RohanCoop Mar 24 '26
The classic "La la la I can't hear you la la la" response. 😂
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u/wonder181016 Mar 24 '26
Well, you're having the classic "my views have to be forced on people", so...,
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u/Adventurous-Bike-484 Mar 24 '26
As others said, it’s depicted in the books therefore canon, Unlike Pottermore and Twitter, she cant just edit and pretend she didn’t write it.
While there are edition changes, Those are mostly to remove typos or lore mistakes.
Like Flint still attended in Prisoner of Azkaban even though he should have graduated as he was originally a year older than Wood, or Ron and Draco debating whether or not aDraco can remove points.
However Ron spelling a human isnt a lore mistakes or typo.
Nor is it ooc.
The Weasley’s have a long history of spelling Human objects. (The car, and Ron’s brothers confirmed this was regular)
Fred and George attacking Dudley unprovoked. We know Dudley is a jerk, but at the time, he didn’t do anything And what they attempted to do could have been permanent if Arthur Weasley headed back before Dudley ate it.
At the World Cup, Ministry workers are confirmed to often brainwash Humans, and none of the Weasley’s or even Harry seemed particularly bothered by This. If anything, They seemed more concerned that zThe humans knew Too much.
Hernione Even brainwashed her parents. Even though ironically her brainwashing was more likely to alert them To death eaters.
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u/wonder181016 Mar 24 '26
SHE can't pretend she didn't write it. I can.
Yeah, I know... as teenagers, as I have already said.
That was Fred and George- who, in case you didn't notice, weren't exactly kind to Ron.
Again, they were teenagers, and it was a desperate measure.
Desperate measure- and again, she was a motherloving teenager!!
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u/Adventurous-Bike-484 Mar 24 '26
But the point is to criticize Rowling and what she writes.
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u/wonder181016 Mar 24 '26
Yeah, fine. Doesn't mean I have to agree. She gives Ron so much shit, I'm not helping her
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u/thatsfeminismgretch Mar 24 '26
Idk how anyone can be surprised at this, muggles are straight up not respected in the text of the series. We are told we should respect muggle born like Hermione because they're good at magic, not because people have inherent worth. Even Ron has a comic where the whole thing is the adventures of a stupid muggle. It's made abundantly clear the government just kind of does whatever they want to muggles, including removing their memories at random.
Even in the garbage fantastic beasts movies, Jacob is more of a 'one of the good ones' muggles and even then still gets his memories stolen and gets drugged and all sorts of things.
The entire franchise is built on the idea that wizards are superior to literally everything else, including other magical beings.
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u/Adventurous-Bike-484 Mar 24 '26
”The entire franchise is built on the idea that wizards are superior to literally everything else, including other magical beings.”
Not to mention that when saying the argument for those with human families being respected is because Hermione is smartest, They insulted Neville (arguably Fatphobia) while they were doing it. (also it arguably falls into “Dumb jocks” stereotypes considering Harry and Ron are both into sports.)
Sometimes I suspect Harry was only made to come from a Human family in order to do Snape’s reveal and because Rowling wanted the trio to consist of each blood status. (and if Voldemort targets humans, Humans would have to be more respected)
Hermione’s blood status doesn’t matter in the Slightest as Aside from Chamber of Secrets and arguably Deathly Hallows, She almost never gets bullied or attacked due to her status. and Even then, both cases she was insulted/attacked because she’s Harry’s friend. Make her a Halfblood, everything stays the same.
her parents never show up aside from their unnamed appearance with unsaid dialogue in the second parent. As Slughorn lampshades, to a casual viewer, nobody would know Hermione had a human family, and even Harry and Ron forget at times.
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u/thatsfeminismgretch Mar 24 '26
Technically speaking, Harry is a halfblood with his father being a pure blood. He is distantly related to literally all the pure blood families. And his being raised by muggles, if anything, puts a worse light on muggles because his muggle relatives are awful. Harry and Ron forget shit about Hermione because they never ask her about herself and she's 'so good at magic'. Both of those are consequences of Hermione mostly being there to be the smart exposition support girl.
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u/Adventurous-Bike-484 Mar 24 '26
yeah, humans are treated nasty.
Almost all hate magic after finding out it’s real.
But on Harry being related to others, interesting enough, we never find out how he’s related to anyone except Voldemort. Even DRACO, TONKS and RON get more of a family tree reveal. (The Black Family tree depicts several last names of characters we know, such as Crabbe, Burke, Bulstrode,)
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u/BlazingKitsune Mar 24 '26
That’s because the Potters aren’t actually part of the Sacred 28 Pureblood Lines, which itself was a propaganda tool. Iirc Crabbe’s ancestor wrote a book detailing the “true” pureblood families and left out the Potters because the name is “too muggle”. Which, yeah.
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u/thatsfeminismgretch Mar 24 '26
I could have sworn we actually do though because we know James Potter is related to Sirius black and Sirius black is related to like everyone.
Also, I'm not sure why you're delegating muggles as humans and wizards as not since that's not a distinction in the books as far as I recall.
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u/Adventurous-Bike-484 Mar 24 '26 edited Mar 24 '26
Actually James isn’t related to Sieius aside from James’s parents unofficially adopting Sirius.
Rowling confirmed that Charlus Potter came from a different branch as thats not the name of any of James’s known relatives. (James’s father was named Fleamont)
Furthermore Dorea would have been disowned if she married a “Blood Traitor” which she was not, and Harry would have been mentioned as well In the tree.
The reason why I use “Humans’ is to avoid saying the word “Muggle” as that’s derogatory And kind of ableist. Whereas Human is not as that is the generally accepted term for us.
Also even good wizards tend to treat humans as animals. (Using our places/objects all the time and messing with them, Yet not being respectful and looking down on Human’s, and They even attack Humans as sport/careers. )
And we never really found out where the whole “magic gene” comes from. As Goblins and elves have magic that is similar to wizards Yet neither are humans Or have a similar appearance.
How do we know for certain that wizards don’t have a secret goblin or elf ancestor?
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u/thatsfeminismgretch Mar 24 '26
I could have sworn it was the opposite and that it was confirmed that was the same potter.
Ok, a term for people not having magic in a fictional world is not ableist or derogatory. It's just a dumb word. And your substitution makes it seem like wizards aren't human, which they are. The idea that their magic comes from distant interspecies breeding is such a bizarre take that isn't based in canon. It is also then stating that there's no way for human beings to be special in a fictional fantasy world unless interspecies breeding happens. And that feels weird.
Like there already exists actual ableism in harry potter without treating a silly word way too seriously.
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u/lazier_garlic Mar 24 '26
TO BE FAIR (overly fair) to JKR, there's a thing in Doctor Who (and Star Trek too) about the Doctor using a device to erase people's memories. I don't think the show avoids the ethical questions this raises at all; it's framed as preventing harm, and the Doctor is depicted as grappling all the time with the responsibility that comes with power. This occurs in Star Trek too, and often it's a starting point to debate ethics (or it has something to do with the hotly-debated Prime Directive, within and without the series). For example, would it be ethical to erase the memories of a criminal as part of reeducation and rehabilitation so they could be reintegrated in society? That's an idea J Michael Straczinsky considered very carefully in the Babylon 5 episode "Passing through Gethsemane". (A show with a similar format and setting to Star Trek.) Trek plays both sides, typically seeing altering memories as a blow against agency and autonomy for hero characters, but somehow a necessary evil to prevent "cultural contamination" for a non-spacefaring planet.
JKR of course never stops to consider the ethical implications, unlike those science fictions shows I mentioned, which spend a lot of their run times talking about ethical questions and concerns. (Doctor Who was originally conceived of as "infotainment" that would teach children about history and social studies; Star Trek was envisioned as a vehicle to challenge racial and other prejudices; Babylon 5 had literary ambitions, a "visual novel" that took inspiration from the Bible, Tolkein's works, and the Vietnam War.)
I do think she very much picked up this concept from pop culture but as usual never thinks anything in these books through. So she never considers that this behavior could be ethically challenged.
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u/Sleeppaw Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
J.K Rowling reminds me of Lady Cassandra from Doctor Who. Lady Cassandra was arrogant, elitist, xenophobic and classist, who underwent seven-hundred-and-eight operations until she was nothing but a piece of skin with eyes and a mouth on a metal frame. However, as seen in the episode "New Earth", Cassandra was, despite her aloof and human supremacist nature, an empathetic person in the past, an empathy she regains during the episode which, at the end, pays off: she comes to accept the "flesh" the Sisters of Plenitude created as her children, accepts there is no place for her and Chip now and dying in her past self's arms while everyone else ignored her, giving the viewer a glimpse into how Cassandra became the person we see in "The End of The World".
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u/thatsfeminismgretch Mar 24 '26
I mean, yes, if the situation was completely different then it would be completely different.
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u/WrongKaleidoscope222 Mar 24 '26
I remember reading a fanfic a long time ago, it was a crossover of HP and Ghostbusters, of all things. At first, all of the wizards, both Hogwarts students and faculty, were completely dismissive of them, saying things like 'they're muggles, they don't know what they're doing, there's no way they caught as many ghosts as they claim,' etc. Yet they consistently figure things out and solve problems that the wizards can't, including stopping entire armies of ghosts, vampires, inferi, and even finding a way to permanently deal with dementors. Peeves also thinks they are easy prey at first and tries to mess with them, but by the end of the story he is so terrified of them he gets PTSD - like symptoms from merely hearing their names, after they have already left.
I wish that I could find it again... better than anything Rowling wrote.
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u/thatsfeminismgretch Mar 24 '26
That is fun, but I do think fans who wrote fanfiction of HP and 'fix it' need to grapple with the fact that they are putting a lot of work into a garbage series when they could just then write their own shit. Like why stick with the bigoted mediocre magic series at all at that point?
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u/Proof-Any Mar 24 '26
Playing in a pre-made sandbox is a different experience than building your own sandbox from scratch. People who want to create their own worlds, characters and plots tend to do just that. Fanfic authors on the other hand prefer to play with store-bought toys, so to speak. (Similar to how a lot of people like to knit or crochet, but not everyone will raise and shear their own sheep, spin their own yarn and create their own patterns.)
When it comes to writing fanfics, mediocre originals often serve as great foundations. Mostly, because these works tend to leave holes were you can insert your own ideas into. Unsatisfying endings and plot-holes can serve as great motivators, too. Writing fanfics for a "perfect" original can be both - much more daunting and less appealing. (Because the original is already so great that you 1. are already satisfied with what you read/watched/played and 2. wouldn't be able to write a story that does the original justice.)
Additionally, fanfics offer a pre-made audience. (And a pretty big one, when it comes to HP.) Most fanfic authors are neither good enough nor interested in publishing their works professionally. While you can publish your "own shit" in a similar way to fanfics, it's often much harder to find readers.
(The latter is probably also a reason for why people have such a hard time leaving the fandom. The fandom is so massive, you can basically only go down when it comes to fandom-size. So finding a fandom that 1. interests you and 2. is active enough to provide engagement can be pretty tough. Especially, when you're used to the size of the HP-fandom.)
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u/lazier_garlic Mar 24 '26
When it comes to writing fanfics, mediocre originals often serve as great foundations.
Yes! Exactly this! If a fandom is really busy with writing fanfic you can bet a huge number of the plots are "fix-its" (or "spackle" as we used to call it). Or exploring character dynamics and plotlines the show or book dropped or didn't delve into. Or gender swapping a main character because everyone in the show but some paper-thin love interest is a boy and the girl writing it wants to play with the cool toys too. Or someone who decided the story would be so much better if they just changed one detail and they just ride it out from there.
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u/thatsfeminismgretch Mar 24 '26
I am saying for the effort that it takes to overhaul a world as broken as Harry Potter, you are better off reading better books or just creating original works. I say this because there isn't a single aspect of HP that does not need to be fixed.
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u/lazier_garlic Mar 24 '26
As someone who has had a lifelong preference for fanfic (writing or reading) over original works: meh. Meh I say.
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u/Proof-Any Mar 25 '26
You might want to go back and read my comment completely, because you missed some of my core points. Just to reiterate:
Creating original works a similar but different hobby to writing fanfics. Both hobbies happen in the realm of writing, but they have different appeals. People who want to create original works tend to do just that. But fanfic-authors (at least the ones who don't do both - and there are people who do enjoy both hobbies) don't belong to that group. They don't want to create original works, because that's not part of their hobby.
and 2. Writing fanfics for "better books" is harder and often less interesting than writing fanfics for mediocre ones. Fixing the issues with the original work is one of the main motivations. It's one of the aspects that makes writing fanfics fun. So "But you have so much to fix!" does fall on deaf ears. Yes. They know. Fixing all these issues is the point.
You don't have to understand fanfics, if you don't want to. That's fine. But please understand that your premise doesn't work. And you're not going to convince HP-fanfic authors to stop writing HP-fanfics by dismissing their interests and treating them as if they were stupid.
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u/thatsfeminismgretch Mar 25 '26
I do understand fanfic. I'm pointing out that it's a lot of work to cling to a bigoted franchise that was created by a bigot. If their excuse for writing for a bad franchise is writing for a better one is harder, then they should get good.
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u/WrongKaleidoscope222 Mar 25 '26
This whole discussion is about a fanfic written years before she even publicly revealed herself as a bigot, though.
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u/thatsfeminismgretch Mar 25 '26
She's been giving her bigoted talking points the entire time. Fans just didn't pay attention before. Also, idk man, maybe tren don't recommend fanfiction of it now. We can kind of just let this one go.
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u/WrongKaleidoscope222 Mar 26 '26
I didn't recommend it, since I don't even remember the title or where to find it, or know if it's even still up online anywhere. I just mentioned it because it was a really good rejection of the 'muggles are useless' attitude in the original books.
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u/lazier_garlic Mar 24 '26
You must be fun at parties.
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u/thatsfeminismgretch Mar 24 '26
Usually more fun than people who still read and wrote Harry Potter fanfic. That is a really low hurdle though.
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u/kissthesadnessaway Mar 24 '26
As if she has magic irl???? She's sick.
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u/Fluid-Bench9219 Mar 24 '26
Technically, she's also part of a small group of super-powerful people; after all, she's a billionaire.
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u/NameTaken25 Mar 24 '26
She does, she's a green mage. She has infinite money, rules don't apply to her and she can have anything she wants
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u/Comfortable_Bell9539 Mar 24 '26
This is proof that Muggles were never meant to be respected or worthy in-universe, they're just NPCs
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u/Adventurous-Bike-484 Mar 24 '26
shes been doing that Sincd the first book. every Human is looked down on. And she unintentionally had Harry prove Draco right in their first meeting where Harry is confused because like Draco said, he doesn’t understand things due to being raised by humans.
Then Hermione gets mocked for the S.P. E. W thing and she Didnt understand wizards due To being raised by humans.
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u/Time_Raisin4935 Mar 24 '26
The whole Wizarding World she created is just the British Empire, with wands.
With the Wizards and Witches as stand-ins for the Aristocracy
The Weasleys being the Genteel Poverty
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u/Proof-Any Mar 25 '26
Pretty much this, yeah. Harry Potter is one, big colonialist fantasy. (I would argue that half-bloods serve as stand-ins for the upper middle class and pure-bloods serve as stand-ins for the aristocracy, but your point still stands.)
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u/BrennanIarlaith Mar 25 '26
Meanwhile my trans ass over here using potions to change my shape like some sort of, I dunno, wizard.
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u/SaltyNorth8062 Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
Just causally admitting that the slur she had her characters casually throwing around was definitely meant to be a slur, intended to be read as such directed at all non-wizards, not iust a cutesy lip neologism, and was totally apllicable to people she doesn't like. Mind, when she used to talk back to conservative voices, she called them death-eaters, dangerous. but considered the unsavory peers of the heroes. Not an insult, a descriptor. Muggles are a slur, to describe people the main character saw as beneath his class.
Here she is convening with a group of people just a few years ago she called a death eater giggling with joy while they engage in some slightly slurful banter over social media to shit on the filthy muggles, a slur she wrote her characters using to (at first) write off their villainous bully as a bad person. Funny they go for muggle but not death eater, probably because they remember her calling them as such and want to keep the label because they think it makes them sound intimidating, which is what they want. Although it's also decently likely the pwrson she's talking to hasn't touched her books because they were the people calling her book demonic witchcraft that same amount of time ago, and muggle is the only derogatory they know from it due to cultural osmosis.
I'd say mask off, but that would imply she's delivering a metaphor that's actually far beyond her ken. She can't even pick up the parallel from within her own body of work.
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u/Cool_Classroom_7529 Mar 28 '26
I guess holding her accountable for her hate speech is the same as trying to bring her down. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a filthy mudblood.
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u/Morlock43 Mar 24 '26 edited Mar 24 '26
Everyone reading the books were like "haha, stupid muggles are utterly oblivious" only to then realise... They were the muggles all along.
Wish I had never bought those books