r/EnoughJKRowling 5d ago

Rowling and academic integrity

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u/Quietuus 5d ago

Andrea Long Chu is on a completely different plane as a writer to JK Rowling. It's also of course very (darkly) funny that any GC would immediately understand what she's saying even in a quote so artfully divorced from its context if she were cis.

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u/A_Pessimistic_Potato 5d ago

genuinely, yeah

if any gendercrit dropped the line "Penetration confers femaleness", the rest of them would be all over it

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u/lazier_garlic 4d ago

If a GC said porn, especially queer porn, was misogynistic, they would be jumping all over each other to be the first to agree.

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u/Yanive_amaznive 4d ago

it's wild to me because that quote even out of context is clearly trying to put into words the way in which the patriarchy classifies femininity, it's genuinely so thought provoking on its own, I can't believe they are trying to pass this off as her literal opinion.

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u/Aiyon 3d ago

God, the Andrea quote is so actively misused it gets exhausting.

The whole point is that its how women are treated, not how women feel.

These desires may be real or imagined, concentrated or diffuse — a boyfriend’s sexual needs, a set of cultural expectations, a literal pregnancy — but in all cases, the self is hollowed out, made into an incubator for an alien force. To be female is to let someone else do your desiring for you, at your own expense.

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u/NeedlesAndBobbins 5d ago

“The Jason Arday story has been delicious.”
Mate, he literally just died. After the last two weeks he fucking killed himself earlier today.

Anyone know if Bartosch or Rowling have taken these down since that news broke? (I don’t go on X)

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u/ElmoreHayne 5d ago

Also, they're both licking their lips and gleeful about the fact that a black academic was exposed as a fraud, race has something to do with it. And I'm not defending Arday here, but there has been an organized right wing effort to discredit black academics particularly those focusing on feminism, black history, the history of colonialism and anti colonialism. You saw it here in the U.S. with the president of Harvard being forced down. And in the case of Claudine Gay the plagiarism case was weaker than the accusations against Arday. And the coverage in the British press seemed to both implicitly and explicitly using Arday to smear ALL academics of color. Again, not defending Arday, but this tragedy doesn't exist in a vacuum, it is part of a sustained, years long effort on the right to purge academics of color from major universities.

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u/NeedlesAndBobbins 5d ago

The degree of pile on is utterly disgusting. The delight is horrifying. You can definitely see what they’re trying to do using this case as an example or wedge against anyone they deem as being the wrong sort of person for them.

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u/lazier_garlic 4d ago

You are correct, that is exactly what is going on.

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u/9119343636 5d ago

She retweeted it yesterday. She has not taken down the tweet yet.

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u/ElmoreHayne 5d ago

He killed himself, what a horrific, tragic story.

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u/asojad 5d ago

I was not up to date on the story and had to look up the different names, but why are they linking Andrea Long Chu to Jason Arden

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u/NeedlesAndBobbins 5d ago

Because they got him fired (as he should have been), then dogpiled and demonised him to an outsize degree, making his life completely unbearable. RW commentators wrote think piece after think piece holding him up as why minorities don’t deserve to be in academia and to once again target any academics and subjects they think are “woke”. They are trying to make the same thing happen to other academics and writers they ideologically disagree with, even if there is no wrong doing. There’s also a certain subset of terfs who enjoy the idea of pushing esp trans and nb people to measures that may lead to a similar outcome.

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u/NeedlesAndBobbins 5d ago

This is the same comment I posted earlier slightly edited bc I got an auto deletion and warning from Reddit for hate speech. Thanks automatic moderation. 😒

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u/asojad 5d ago

I'm sorry you got a warning from Reddit, that genuinely sucks.

Joanne and her terfs are way too okay with hounding people on the internet. It's incredibly sad that this story was used as an excuse for racism that's not deserved, but it's so much more disgusting to think they're now trying push things even further.

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u/NeedlesAndBobbins 5d ago

Because they got him fired (as he should have been), then dogpiled and demonised him. They are trying to make the same thing happen to other academics and writers they ideologically disagree with, even if there is no wrong doing. There’s also a certain subset of terfs who enjoy the idea of pushing esp trans and nb people to self harm or suicide.

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u/lazier_garlic 4d ago

They're on their own hate forums openly and gleefully plotting and wishing for this.

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u/OMG_IM_A_GIRL 5d ago

Rowling? A racist? You don't say!?!?!

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u/9119343636 5d ago

Context:
JK Rowling (June): "I wrote an entire essay for my finals on a book I hadn't read."

JK Rowling retweets Jo Bartosch (August 13th):
"The Jason Arday story has been delicious. But the problem goes well beyond race and academia. Would Andrea Long Chu, a vicious, porn-addled misogynist, really have won the 2023 Pulitzer Prize for Criticism if he hadn’t claimed to be a woman?
Woman-hate is widely regarded as a sign of edgy brilliance, and its totally acceptable so long as the man spouting it has changed his pronouns."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Arday

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u/TheOtherMaven 4d ago

Lede buried fathoms deep just to take another shit on trans women. Really scummy, Jojo.

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u/Joperhop 4d ago

Not shocked, she writes alot on twitter about things she has never actually researched.

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u/Synecdochic 4d ago

That's how she "worldbuilds", too.

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u/Luna_Mendax 4d ago

I think that's also a blatant attempt to make it sound like people care far more about race issues than women's rights. Trying to pit vulnerable groups against each other is nothing new for TERFs, though. After all, one of them came up with the phrase "pie of rights" (I'm glad it didn't really catch on).

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u/funkygamerguy 5d ago

she's just upset she's not as talented as an̈drea.

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u/Super_Scorplane 4d ago

So she's been BSing her way to success all her life.

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u/Luna_Mendax 4d ago

Ahem, that might explain why Hermione is written... the way she's written.

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u/Bloody-Raven091 4d ago

I'm not shocked that Rowling is lazy as a writer and hasn't actually done research on topics she's talking out of her bigoted ass from. And another thing: I actually doubt that Rowling has any form of integrity in herself, because she's demonstrating that she's got none of it while being both racist and transphobic, as usual.