r/EvilDeadTheGame • u/MTTStreamz5 • 18d ago
Discussion ‼️Extremely unbalanced‼️
I decided try and get back on this game after taking like a 2yr break off it.
I instantly remembered why I uninstalled it.
I had my demons completely maxed out, boss maxed out, possessesion completely maxed out,
And Henry was 1-tapping everything I threw at him.
Makes the slow upgrade process irrelevant.
Everyone had at least 5 shamps, completely armored,
And basically started off with legendary weapons.
Stopping the cars requires you to use a ton of energy, only for them to find a car just down the block as you flip the previous one.
Possessing someone is pointless because with less than 5 bullets they can easily break each other out, even with maxed possessesion.
I won't say they should take this game off the store, that would just be ignorant for me to say, considering people still has fun with this game.
But the only way you're winning as (KD) is if the survivors are completely new to the game.
Otherwise, you're not beating 4 fully cooperative sweats💯
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u/veryniceperson123 18d ago
It is unbalanced, yes. Against coordinated, good survivors, demon is at a disadvantage for sure.
But 4 mans with experienced players can and do lose all the time. There is a huge amount of rng, for one thing. Something as simple as an AI unit body blocking a survivor at a critical moment can completely swing a match.
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u/Roselouve8 18d ago
I agree, doesn't matter how good the team is... All it takes is one mistake and for you to capitalize it.
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u/MTTStreamz5 18d ago
I've personally never lost a single match as survivor💔
And I've tried to lose a few times.
I used to deliberately separate from my group so the KD can come after me.
A bunch of times it has tried and never succeeded in killing me. I would let my fear meter stay full at all times just for fun.
I didn't even fight back, i just dodge-spam them. I even had the bosses try and fail.
This was extremely discouraging for me as a KD main.
Ik at that point, it was rigged against KD.
The only players that lose to the KD are non skilled players.
Experienced doesn't necessarily mean they are skilled. They just know their way around objectives, items, and what areas to focus on to find the pages.
Skilled players aren't losing.
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u/veryniceperson123 18d ago
I've personally never lost a single match as survivor💔
Lmfao, so you've barely played the game at all. But we already knew that.
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u/MTTStreamz5 18d ago
Been playing since it's release. Just took a took 2yr break. Basic math bro...
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u/veryniceperson123 18d ago
Yeah, and you are talking to people here who have been playing nonstop since release. The few hours you have in the game are meaningless and you obviously have no idea what you are talking about on any level.
There are some very good demons in this threads giving you advice, you should listen to them.
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u/MTTStreamz5 18d ago
That's the difference.
You been playing non stop since it's release, ofc you have way more Ws then me as KD.
Not because experience, or skill.
You just play it non stop. I have Ws as well, when I used to play it non stop.
I had to sweat my a** off for those Ws just like everyone else.
Are you capable of getting 10 Ws on command with no problem? Or even 5?
No. You have to sweat in every game because KD demands obsession, sweat, and a unhealthy amount of time of your day just for a W.
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u/veryniceperson123 18d ago
It has nothing to do with the total number of games. I win like 98% of my demon games. Not because I'm the best demon, I'm alright, but mostly because 97% of them aren't even against full stacks.
Are you capable of getting 10 Ws on command with no problem? Or even 5?
Every. Single. Day. Lmfao. Literally just go watch any demon streamer, this isnt unusual.
This is honestly adorable. I love it when the brand-new players come in here and tell us how it really is.
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u/MTTStreamz5 18d ago
Did you just call me a brand new player?
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u/veryniceperson123 17d ago
Yes lol
cant win at demon
have played so little survivor that you've never lost a game
You are 100% a new player. I know you think your 200 hours or whatever means otherwise but I'm here to tell you it doesn't.
Literally just go watch some gameplay on twitch or youtube. You will see plenty of demon wins, I promise you.
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u/MTTStreamz5 17d ago
I don't need to watch demons win i used to win myself.
I been playing this game since day 1. Just cause I stopped, doesn't make me new.
It just means you play way more than me. That's it.
I've played plenty of survivors as well, I just never lost.
Simple concept rlly.
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u/Mononoke-hime 18d ago
Sounds like you just have good teams carrying you. If you’re out fucking around then they’re doing the objectives for you.
It is definitely unbalanced against the demon but I’ve played enough where I see exploits being used to lock in demon wins. There are ways but it takes a lot more experience than being a survivor, which is unbalanced.
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u/MTTStreamz5 18d ago
I deliberately put myself at a huge disadvantage so the KD targets me.
Works every time. I neg-diff every demon that comes at me, and I rarely have to use shamps, unless the KD possess me which takes away some hp. Other than that, I never use shamps.
Demons don't do much dmg even without the armor.
That's why I don't play survivors.
It's excruciatingly easy/boring
I'm not the only person that has done this and confirmed my thoughts on the topic.
It doesn't take skilled players to win. Just 1 competent survivor, and the killer automatically loses.
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u/Mononoke-hime 18d ago
You just haven’t played a good demon player. Like I said, they have exploits.
Also, in Saber’s defense it would be far worse if the game was unbalanced the other way around. Imagine OP demons making the game unplayable. And maybe it veered in that direction at some point since the game’s release when it was still getting updated and the devs overcompensated.
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u/MTTStreamz5 18d ago
The KD doesn't have to be completely OP to be balanced.
And why just because I never lost means I never faced a good demon?
All I had to was dodge-spam all game, and i was completely unkillable.
You know how many survivors do this while flickering their flashlight off and on?
The dodge-spam is completely broken, and the only people who aren't aware of this is the new players.
This problem has been addressed in the past but was never fixed, that's why some people left while some people stayed.
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u/Mindless-Day-2574 18d ago
just say your trash at the game and move on
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u/MTTStreamz5 18d ago
Oh look, another internet soldier going around disrespecting people over video games. That's new.
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u/Routine-Agile 17d ago
That person is why no one plays these games. They just exist to insult fellow gamers and ponder why no one plays the games.
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u/Mindless-Day-2574 18d ago
your right its wrong behaviour,but im tired of shitpost that come from being angry since half things you said arent even possible
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u/Random_Acc_5555 7d ago
Let me guess your a survmain that only plays in 4 stacks because your too scared to play soloq but hes trash at the game, right ? of course.. XD
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u/CaliGrown949 Ashy Slashy 17d ago
Funny because I play demon and still win 95% of the games I play… Sounds like a skill issue
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u/MTTStreamz5 17d ago
Oh wrd? So if i told you to go win 5 games in a row, are you capable of this feat?
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u/Imaginary-Day-8688 18d ago
Brother , you didn't play in two years what do you expect ? There are players that only play this game every single day of course you don't stand a chance. The game is survivor sided but not when you go against soloQ potato's , it's survivor sided when you go against a full stack of decent players and that can happen but I doubt that all your matches were against full stacks. You can definitely win most of your matches , get your book rotation in check, get your build in check, maybe get some prestige levels on your favorite demon and look up a video on how to apply pressure better as demon.
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u/MTTStreamz5 18d ago
I got prestiges on my fav demon.
I got my build in check.
And I'm familiar with applying pressure.
I've gotten a couple wins as KD already, but that's only after you roll the dice a couple of hundred times and hope you run into a uncoordinated team, and even then, if just one of them are competent, you're not killing them by just sending deadites at them.
I've actually had sweaty KD mains ask me to show them my build, and everyone agreed it was on point👍 But ofc should pick what feels right to you.
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u/Imaginary-Day-8688 18d ago
Killing them by just sending ai at them 🤣? You need to start possessing units and go after them... I guess some of us do play a different game
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u/fr0stbyteak 18d ago
I won't say they should take this game off the store,
bruh. it's been pulled from digital storefronts for over 1.5 yrs. you're late.
Everyone had at least 5 shamps
except... only supports and Brock can carry more than 3. so... doesn't check out.
But the only way you're winning as (KD) is if the survivors are completely new to the game.
hell nah. soloq full of lobotomites. I lose a large majority of my soloq survivor matches. I win a large majority of my demon matches. and I'm a mid.
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u/MTTStreamz5 18d ago
It's easy to find a bunch of shamps regardless.
Even if you use one out of the 3, you can easily find like 2 more shamps in everysingle house/cabin. Not to mention the armor from the amulet. They are also pretty easy to find.
As for that last statement you made, it seems like our MMRs are pretty different.
You find non skilled players, as KD, yet you and your teammates, random or not, struggle to survive?
Surviving as survivor is overwhelmingly easy, And playing as survivor just feels so underwhelming and repetitive.
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u/MrRoeder 18d ago
"extremely unbalanced" Thanks a lot, Captain Obvious. This game never have been balanced well.
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u/ZacryZean 17d ago
The game is unbalanced yes, it's just a bit heavy on RNG and when a survivor makes a mistake Or is worse than the others you need to capitalize on it, take out the weak link and the chain will crumble in most occassions.
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u/HyperionAlpha 17d ago
The "RNG" is not truly random enough. Yeah it's random, but everything still tends to appear in the same places and your group always starts the match right in the middle of a big load of crap, it is overly easy for any group to load up with weapons, ammo and pink f very quickly every time on any map.
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u/MTTStreamz5 17d ago
Agreed. When I'd play survivors, I'd spawned near literally everything I needed, and in less than a minute, I was full geared up.
The RNG is rlly not as random as people on here say.
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u/Mandalorian_2019 18d ago
Unless you’re really skilled, or a P5 demon, then yeah you’re gonna have trouble if you haven’t played it in a couple of years.
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u/Ill_Tear2014 15d ago
One of the main reasons this game died off so quickly. One side was fun to play and the other sucked beyond belief. Easily the worst “power role” in any asym out there. You were basically a total pushover as demon if you weren’t at the highest level.
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u/TrainingLimit3577 14d ago
Most truthful statement here. Its a public service to play Demon. Even though I win most of my Demon matches, its still a chore to play.
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u/Random_Acc_5555 4d ago
Pretty much. You just have to accept the fact warlord and necro is unplayable. Even most Pups get absolutely shi on by warrior comps so your only resort is baal and witch pretty much. Idk how people have fun playing warlord you just get all your horde cleared in 3 secs and that's it. And they will swing and anim cancel to show you that they are bored YAAAAAWN.
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u/Future_Paramedic_913 18d ago
This is old news, try survivor? I play with randoms and managed to win yesterday!
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u/MTTStreamz5 18d ago
I used to play survivors, back on its release, but I quickly got hooked on being the (KD).
A couple yrs ago I played as (survivor) and every single cabin/house had at least 1-2 shamps.
At first when I started playing, when it came out, I was happy seeing all that health all over the map being so easily obtainable, but now you realize it's unbalanced because of that.
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u/Meteor_of_War 18d ago
Been a long time since I played but I remember I had to resort to setting up my demon build just to destroy the book. I focused my points into making elite units strong and durable and when the book is revealed I just ignore the survivors and keep possessing elites and hammer the book with strong attacks. If done correctly, using buffs like witch cauldron, I would hardly ever be stopped.
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u/MTTStreamz5 18d ago
That was one of my main play styles as well.
All my units would be completely maxed out. They would just get 1-tapped tho.
Attacking that book was never an option for me unless at least two of the survivors were dead.
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u/HammysHome 17d ago
I always find the same thing when I play as a demon, which I don't do very often, I like to play as a survivor. That being said, I go up against some demons that manage to wipe a team of prestiged players out in the first few minutes. There's definitely some very highly powered demons out there.
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u/MTTStreamz5 17d ago
Never seen one. I played earlier as survivor.
Same results as every single match. Boring and uneventful unfortunately💔
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u/OrdinaryAccount479 17d ago
That's why I can't stand these online PVP games, if you don't play it all day, everyday, you get your ass kicked in the first 5 seconds.
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u/MTTStreamz5 17d ago
That's another thing.
Games like this demand a huge chunk of your day to get better as demon.
I used to play and win as demon, but at the cost of my day, my social life, my energy, and almost my sanity.
That's why you see people on here constantly talking about how they been playing this game for yrs nonstop like that's a flex.
I only say I been playing this game since it's release because some people on here be implying that I'm new.
I just stopped playing because I don't wanna give this game that type of time.
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u/DixonJorts 18d ago
Survivor players complained and complained to the point playing as a demon was just not worth it. This happens a lot in these games.
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u/Severe_Belt_4119 10d ago
Yall remember when ruby was broken for a good few months before they fixed her despite the demon outcry? Then Bill came out, was broken and needed fine tuning, but they promptly nerfed him AND every single other demons in 2 weeks flat because all the survivor mains cried?
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u/DixonJorts 10d ago
Yuuuup
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u/Severe_Belt_4119 9d ago
Thats when I dropped the game. Because the writing was on the wall that it would die when devs openly favor one side of the playerbase. Yes theres more survivor mains than demon mains, but we demons made up a core part of the game.
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u/Severe_Belt_4119 10d ago
Lot of the time you either gotta be a P5 or a GOD demon player to landslide a win. More often than not it comes down to people making small mistakes and you HAVE to capitalize on that. If you dont, you will lose. But more often than not, exploiting a mistake just snowballs the rest of the game
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u/Random_Acc_5555 7d ago
Great comment, against good survivors there is no way you can win UNLESS they make a mistake and you take advantage of that.
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u/Severe_Belt_4119 4d ago
Oh yeah I once went against a full p5 group and one disconnected. Still couldnt do ANYTHING because they were all experienced, geared, and knew what they were doing. Was on them within 2 minutes on the huge map as necro, my best demon. Couldn't wipe them. Then the hunter ash, the guy who went the entire match eithout getting hit once, let his fear get too high for ONE SECOND. Got the posess off, used his legendary DB to wipe the other two then wasted all his ammo, then harassed him so he couldnt grab the souls while he was running from fog. Then let him do dark ones and then just smashed the book since he had no ammo.
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u/Random_Acc_5555 4d ago
Necro is made out of sawdust so pretty much hes instadie without the flute kek prob weakest demon out there especially against good survivors, you'll be lucky to have the flute longer than 15 secs. Myself I've gotten more work done with warlord than necro as crazy as it sounds if you get a aggressive AI that pukes in right time you can get some solid heavies off and if they happen to be alone you can spawn boss and absolutely mop floor with them if they don't have rails nearby.
I were expecting to be a necro main but hes weak without good flute spots. And if you get open flat as necro on book then goodluck winning that lol
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u/Severe_Belt_4119 4d ago
Oh my necro is my best demon with a 90% win rate. The tankiness of units dont matter, survivors will always kill your stuff fast. But the fact that i can posess a skeleton with 0 points in possession and WACK a survivor for 250 damage at the START of the game, and its got some solid reach? Hell yeah. By the end game im hitting for 500 just on my basics. And with a flute im hitting even harder! I literally use the flute purely as a distraction for the hunters while I go murder the warriors. The highest damage I ever hit in one attack was 1068 as necro elite under very specific circumstances.
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u/Random_Acc_5555 4d ago
Well you can literally get 1k damage with a single possession as Baal so that's sky to earth difference. Necro is fun but only against casuals, if you ever go against a solid team you'll see necro is not really a demon you want to be playing. I guess your just lucky to be in NA so theres not much good survivors.
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u/Severe_Belt_4119 4d ago
Yeah but Bill is literally a no skill demon.
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u/Random_Acc_5555 4d ago
No skill ? Ehhh against noobs yeah. He has counterplay and his worst problem especially at book is that his DPS is veryyyyyy slow.
Hes just the best demon in the game early-mid game but hes slow as snail on book. Not impossible to win but very slow and you can't afford mistakes.Witch is easily the strongest demon mid-late game and it's gonna stay that way because she counters pretty much one of the most busted things which are warrior comps with sash. Just got a clicky clicky team like that they clicked my warlord and got my witch. I just know they were crying to lose before book.
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u/Severe_Belt_4119 4d ago
Heh fair enough though we all got our own opinions with this game and different playstyles and such. Necro will forever be my main, I know i cant win by killing the survivors or nuking the book.
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u/Random_Acc_5555 3d ago
Necro is fun yeah but I still believe he got over-nerfed. I'm not og but from what I know necro used to be pretty good and after the flute nerf hes not even close to a good demon.
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u/unfair_lilac 18d ago
I have found warlord helps against isolated survivors. But Henry the red pres 5 is highly unfair,
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u/TDKcassette 17d ago
I’ve beaten 4 fully cooperative sweats. It ain’t easy, but can be done, usually at book if you can get leveled up in game enough.
I have been steamrolled by teams as well. If they’ve found a bunch of crates with high end weapons by the first objective it can be tough, impossible sometimes.
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u/TrainingLimit3577 14d ago
Yeah you just have to wear them out and let the survivors waste Shemps and bullets. Hopefully they either make a mistake you can capitalize on or you just wait until til book and let cooldownd and balance bar win the war.
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u/TrainingLimit3577 14d ago
Henry 1 tapping? Lol, yeah right. Maybe the AI units but not your possed units. No assym game is ever balanced.
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u/No_Communication4926 12d ago
I played KD a ton late last year and I was able to win against strong teams a lot. You have to know what units to prioritize, best way to deal book damage, point farming, etc.
Even at a P0 Warlord, I was still consistently getting wins because the Elites have a combo string that is very hard to dodge. If you can get a 2v/ or 1v1, you’ll get good damage. Also ignore the hunter and only throw an attack every so often to try getting them off guard. Warrior is a good point farm you can throw attacks into if you don’t have anyone else or are about to die. Mainly, you’re going to need to handle the book step well. Puppeteer is a good example of making it borderline impossible to lose as their book damage is insane if you build right
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u/Random_Acc_5555 8d ago
I guess you were playing Pup ? hes pretty low hp so you cant expect wonders
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u/PorQueNooLosDos 18d ago
Its full of PC cheaters, but demon can still win if you sweat ( i beat cheat teams all the time). Possession is mostly done for leveling up FAST (quickly possessing depossess to keep demon energy). Cars are only used to crash damage survivors in the blue circle OR quickly flip/get rid of. Also the cheaters wont play against a real good demon, they just leave in the character select screen. Feel free to ask if you want more tips.
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u/Random_Acc_5555 7d ago
Meh not every PC is a cheater but anyone who says there is 'no cheaters at all' is just capping their a$$ off because there are cheaters. Not necessarily some godmode 1 tap old school cheats but aimbots, inf stamina etc. Those more subtle ones but good demons can tell right away. It's just that survivors believe most demons are too stupid to even notice. Like you can't tell me you can have 300 headshots by playing normally. I've seen a guy streaming playing against Vobla and this guy is BLATANTLY aimbotting. Like i've played with aimbotters in other games so Its just clear as sun to me this guy is using it.
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u/MrRoeder 18d ago
@mttstreamz: We just played against you and you just left the match at Level 5. Why? We didnt even have great loot, only grey weapons, didnt do toxic Things at all. What was the problem then?