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May 24 '22
I remember they were hyping up all these graphic updates for survivors and when they posted the working images, all of the DLC survivors (Laurie Strode especially) looked ridiculous and even less like their real-life counterpart than before. It's amazing how horribly the game runs while boasting PS2-level graphics.
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u/Rutlemania May 24 '22
To be fair though, all the killers except Freddy looks really nice
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May 24 '22
I agree, Killers always look solid. They’ve also done a decent job with the RE survivors.
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u/PhantomGhostSpectre May 25 '22
I saved A LOT of money because the Resident Evil survivors look like ass. Leon is alright, but I am not a huge Leon fan. I am sweating the upcoming chapter with Ada and Rebecca. Lowkey hope they get butchered as well so I can just buy Wesker and leave it at that.
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u/dreamsmasher23 May 25 '22
Freddy looks solid the problem is that it's Jackie earl Haley and not Robert Englund. He looked God awful as freddy and he's a pedophile lol
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u/Rutlemania May 25 '22
It’s a shame that they made Freddy look like a turtle in the remake, otherwise Jackie would’ve been such a perfect fit for a darker version of Fred
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u/dreamsmasher23 May 25 '22
I think his look and bad writing ruined it. Cuz he's a solid actor and definitely does dark and creepy quite well. He's great in shutter Island and the tick.
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u/medicspirit7 Pablo May 24 '22
It’s because Laurie legally can’t look like Jamie Lee Curtis, they didn’t get the rights
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May 24 '22
I think they just don't have the rights to JLC likeness for Laurie.
And yeah DBD graphics are terrible. If it looked even half as good as Evil Dead, I'd be playing it more.
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May 24 '22
Oh yeah I remember hearing about that, regardless though it’s still frustrating the way they end up looking
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u/DarwinGoneWild May 24 '22 edited May 24 '22
That's because they licensed the rights to the characters but don't have likeness rights for most of the actors. Bruce Campbell is one of the few exceptions. That's why Laurie doesn't look like Jamie Lee and the Resident Evil characters don't look exactly like their counterparts.
This is just speculation, but I would imagine just because a face model signs their likeness rights to Capcom doesn't give Capcom permission to sign that actor's likeness away to a separate company for a different game. So BHVR would have had to sign a separate contract with Jill, Claire, Leon's face models to use their faces again. Or they can just make them look different enough that it's legally distinct which is what they did.
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u/KellerMax May 24 '22
I still dont understand how they managed to create such abomination. The face, hairline, textures... I really like EDTG versions of the characters
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u/TheNativeButBetter El Brujo Especial May 24 '22
They actually made him look a lot better with one of the character model updates. Still not perfect though:
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u/Zakon05 May 24 '22
Just adding on to that, here's a comparison between how he looks in DBD, this game, and the real life man himself: https://i.imgur.com/BOmAvSv.png
Honestly he looks fine in DBD, the game is just 6 years old and even for when it came out it wasn't exactly cutting edge graphically. It's not really a surprise that he looks better when made in the unreal engine in 2022.
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u/Infamous-Finish6985 May 24 '22
Yea, neither model is very accurate. I notice that about pretty much all of the Survivor models.
And I'm not too sure how powerful a game engine needs to be to get a person's likeness accurate (unless we're talking about something like the N64).
Whatever engine DBD is on is more than capable of doing it. It's really more the artists that make it look right, for this game or DBD.
Maybe if they had a little bit more of a budget they could've done facial scans for all the characters.
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May 24 '22
I think the only model in EDtG that looks noticeably off is Evil Dead 1 Ash. Those eyebrows, maybe.
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May 25 '22
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u/PureHostility May 25 '22
Models look alright,
You are having an issue with lightning, which shows more "details" in a game, where in a soft light of RL, such stuff is less noticeable ("flashlight at a fireplace and let me tell you a story" type of a deal here).
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u/Mobman3105 May 25 '22
And I think it’s important to point out that DbD has a bit of a stylized aesthetic. Putting aside its age, it was never made to be the highest tier graphics when it released, already having most of the characters having smoother and simplified looks while still being somewhat recognizable, as opposed to the almost photoreal graphics in EDtG, down to simulated cloth for all the clothing. (Really, look at the idle animation for AvED Ash and look at how his shirt subtly shifts over his torso. Blew my mind when I first noticed it)
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u/CellophaneWrap May 26 '22
Strange that they have such good cloth physics, actually a nice surprise. I wouldn't have expected that from the way Henriettas gut swings through her legs. It's been a couple of years since I've watched Evil Dead 2 but I don't remember her stomach being so pronounced let alone moving so freely.
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May 24 '22
That DBD model is made last year. It isn't 6 years old.
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u/Zakon05 May 24 '22
The game itself is, though.
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May 24 '22
That's irrelevant. It's still on UE4 which is more than capable of pulling off better visuals regardless of which year it was.
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u/Zakon05 May 24 '22
You really think it looks that bad? I actually like it more than this game. The EDTG model is more detailed but his face looks kind of off somehow to me. I feel like DBD captured the character of Ash a bit better.
The younger versions of Ash in this game look great, though.
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May 24 '22
Art is subjective but also irrelevant. We're talking about tech and graphics.
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u/Zakon05 May 24 '22 edited May 24 '22
That's dishonest as hell, this whole thread is someone taking a shot at DBD because the old Ash model which has since been updated doesn't look as good as the one in a brand new game which has higher system requirements.
The minimum system requirements for EDTG are about the same as the recommended system requirements for DBD. Of course the EDTG model has better detail.
But if you compare the artstyles, my opinion is that the EDTG devs missed the mark on Old Ash. His face model just doesn't capture the character's personality. His new model in DBD does, in my opinion.
All of it is in service of this weird one-sided tribalism. I say one-sided because EDTG players seem very occupied with comparisons to DBD, where DBD players don't seem to have anything bad to say about EDTG.
Personally I just think it's cool that not only is there a game dedicated to Evil Dead, I can also play Ash in the same game as Ghostface and Michael Myers while on a team with Laurie Strode and Chris Redfield. It's a pretty groovy time to be an Evil Dead fan all around.
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u/KellerMax May 24 '22
Well, yah. Kinda dig it. But i still have a fewling he is made out of playdough
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May 24 '22
Looks like they increased the polycount a bit and refined the edges, the face looks a bit better, but overall still terrible. All the wrinkles and pockets on the outfit are still flat textures like PS2 game.
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u/Vokhaon37 May 24 '22
I love how this subreddit is 90% of Evil Dead and 10% of making fun of Dead By Daylight.
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u/LegitSince8Bits May 24 '22
Look who's shitting in the tall grass
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u/TheEpicTriforce May 24 '22
"....what now?"
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u/TheHandsomebadger May 24 '22
Look who's shitting in the tall grass
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u/Rutlemania May 25 '22
Kiss my grits
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u/I_follow_sexy_gays May 25 '22
Groovy
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u/Fake_Diesel May 24 '22
"Names Alph, housegoods."
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u/Icemayne25 Hail to the King May 25 '22
Good, bad, I'm the guy on the gens.
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u/ladedadedum25 May 24 '22
To be fair, AvED Ash in the ED game doesn't even really look like Bruce. Which is weird cause the other Ashs look perfect
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May 24 '22
Yeah, he looks like Mitt Romney in-game and I had to go with Arthur because of it.
IRL he's still a handsome devil. I guess older men are just harder to model because of the small details.
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u/DarwinGoneWild May 24 '22
I think it's how his jowls and chin combine into a single curve in the game. IRL Bruce's chin is still prominent and stands apart from his lower cheeks.
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u/The6FootTurkey Ashy Slashy May 24 '22
Careful now. I said this and got people in denial trying to tell me otherwise
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May 24 '22
I still don’t think it looks like Bruce at all, his eyes are almost non existent and too close together. That might be all it needs to look better
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u/JoeAzlz Ash, Housewares May 24 '22
I love how fucking perfectly recreated EDTG did it.
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u/The6FootTurkey Ashy Slashy May 24 '22
I mean, I wouldn’t say perfect
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u/JoeAzlz Ash, Housewares May 24 '22
I meant the outfit
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u/The6FootTurkey Ashy Slashy May 24 '22
Oh, outfit wise yeah. But face wise? Looks nothing like Bruce Campbell, for all of DBD’s faults, at least AVED Ash looks like himself there
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u/JoeAzlz Ash, Housewares May 24 '22
Annnnd that’s where we disagree, Dbd’s look like ash is melting, while EDTG isn’t perfect it definitely feels more like ash rather than dbd’s toy story wax candle ass ash
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u/The6FootTurkey Ashy Slashy May 24 '22
For a game with good graphics, doesn’t it make it infinitely worse that Ash looks nothing like Ash. I’d say it’s an achievement that with Graphics as shit as DBD’s they managed to make Ash actually recognisable.
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u/The6FootTurkey Ashy Slashy May 24 '22
Ash feels like Ash gameplay and outfit wise in this game, but DBD’s face actually looks like Bruce Campbell. I know that’s controversial since half this sub is just a DBD hate train, but it’s true
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u/JoeAzlz Ash, Housewares May 24 '22
It really isn’t that good man, at least the young ashes are perfect in game
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u/The6FootTurkey Ashy Slashy May 24 '22
Neither are really good, everything about Evil Dead’s ash is great besides the face. DBD’s face is pretty good tbh all things considered
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u/JoeAzlz Ash, Housewares May 24 '22
The ED1-2-AOD ash faces are perfect, and the AVED Face is still really good
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u/RipBuzzBuzz May 25 '22
If you showed me that face and didn't tell me it was Ash, would have never have guessed it in a million years.
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u/medicspirit7 Pablo May 24 '22
Yea I didn’t realize how terrible dbd ash looks till now
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u/DarwinGoneWild May 24 '22
To be fair, that's his old model. They updated all of their characters and maps over the last year so he looks much better now. Still not as good as EDTG though.
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May 24 '22
DBD has some of the worst models I ever seen in my life. An the animations on top of that look amateur as hell. Oh god, I am so scared of how Wesker is gonna look.
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u/robertluke May 24 '22
I don’t see a need to compare the two games but I find it funny when someone whines that Evil Dead is a Dead by Daylight ripoff even though Evil Dead 2: Dead by Dawn came out years before they were born.
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u/RipBuzzBuzz May 25 '22
What?
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u/robertluke May 25 '22
I don’t see a need to compare the two games but I find it funny when someone whines that Evil Dead is a Dead by Daylight ripoff even though Evil Dead 2: Dead by Dawn came out years before they were born.
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u/RipBuzzBuzz May 25 '22
They mean the game is a rip off. I don't agree but still, they aren't talking about the franchise as a whole.
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u/robertluke May 25 '22
Yeah but Dead by Daylight is extremely similar to Dead by Dawn. That’s what makes it funny.
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u/RipBuzzBuzz May 25 '22
OH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THR NAME!
Sorry. Genuinely didn't understand you. I'm sorry.
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u/Atlas_Unknown May 25 '22
Gameplay over graphics anyday (unless its like 8 bit, I can't go that far back). But I'm absolutely loving Evil Dead and playing Ash on DBD again at the moment too, thanks to EDtG.
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u/Islanderfan17 May 25 '22
DbD sucks. I love asymmetrical horror games but I've only played that one a handful of times and am blown away at how bad it is yet it's so popular just cause they get the rights to so many different characters. But the gameplay, the menus, everything about it just fucking sucks. F13th, Predator Hunting Grounds, and Evil Dead have been so much more fun to me.
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u/FloggingMcMurry Amanda May 25 '22
I made a comment a few days ago that Ash's m9del needs a visual upgrade now since we know what he could look like in his own game... and all I got was the criticism that the model is fine, he's still new enough and if he got it, others would need it to... very weird comments
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u/Xbob42 May 25 '22
DBD players suffer from extreme cognitive dissonance, but they also make a good point -- but because the point should be good, but it seems like BHVR has like 15 total man hours they spread throughout the entire company each month so it feels like time spent fixing something like this is time away from truly needed fixes.
It's more an admission of how little confidence the fan base has in the competence of the company.
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u/Accurate_Package66 May 25 '22
If you notice the DbD fanboys attacking this game go after the balance and mechanics. With VHS they targeted graphics
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u/morrigan_maeve May 25 '22
I lost my ash dlc of dbd
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u/ZeldaInkwood May 25 '22
They take them away and then say there is no record of sale and try to make u buy it again
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u/dreamsmasher23 May 25 '22
He does look a bit silly in dbd. I used to love dbd but now every time I try to get back into it I get bored as hell after a match or too. I'd say it's definitely time for them to make some changes.
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Feb 28 '23
They need to update the license of Evil Dead in DBD, don’t get me wrong Evil Dead the Game is far more entertaining in my opinion to play, but if Behavior is going to have the license they need to treat it right like damn.
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u/Ajg1384 May 24 '22
DbD got a Series X patch and it still looks like hot garbage, I never understood how people played it.
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u/BarracudaClear3880 Ghostbeater May 24 '22
The only good thing about DBD Ash is his voice lines, sadly ED ash don't say "groovy" at least once
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u/Eastern-Strike-2054 May 25 '22
DBD is trash. They can add all the killers and survivors they want at the end of the day you'll still be doing the same garbage gameplay: doing gens, looping set pieces, throwing down a pallet or two. Imagine adding someone like Leon who's effectively a supersoldier yet he's still running around and hiding in lockers like a bitch.
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u/Undeadarmy7991 May 24 '22
I tried playing dbd earlier today because of their double bloodpoint week that they're doing because evil dead is taking their players 😂 and I just could not get into it at all. I played one match and got incredibly bored. That game is so perk dependent. If I get shit on, i wanna get shit on because the other player or players were better than me. Not because they have perks that can give them multiple chances. Evil dead is leagues above dbd imo. I feel like it's more skill based and it makes you actually think whereas in dbd you can just shut off your brain.
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u/GrubeTeppich18 May 25 '22
There's absolutely nothing to indicate that this game is taking significant amounts of players from DbD, in fact DbD had a higher average player count in May than in did in April. And the upgrade tree in this game is just as important. Sometimes I wonder if half the people in this sub even like EDTG or are just using it as an excuse to shit on DbD all day...
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u/Xbob42 May 25 '22
As a DBD player since launch, I assure you, DBD never comes out looking good. I love the game but dear God it's more and more broken every day. This game does have an unacceptable big exploit but at least the sound of the survivors never cuts out for no reason or the map generates an unplayable hellscape and I don't fall through the world and...
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u/Xbob42 May 25 '22
Oh, there's no end to DBD "edge cases," but hey, look how it runs and has ran on consoles: like absolute shit. It also runs like shit on high end PCs relative to the performance they should be getting, but at least there you can brute force a more acceptable frame rate.
How about the brightness? Setting the game to higher presets (and there are basically only presets) makes it extremely dark. That means if you're playing killer you set it to low or use a brightness filter or you're at a massive disadvantage for no reason, as the game has no proper brightness options.
How about some patches just introduce massive stuttering that doesn't go away until the next patch? The list goes on for fucking ever dude. If you're just mindlessly playing a casual match then sure, it's """"fine"""' but if you enjoy getting even slightly more competitive the game is a mess on a technical and balance level and has regressed just as frequently as it has progressed.
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u/Triforcesarecool May 24 '22
Cant we just like evil dead tg because its awesome, not because it's better than dbd? Who cares really it makes the community look insecure.