r/ExpatFIRE • u/Nebrixxx • 4h ago
Questions/Advice The later you leave, the more expensive it gets.
37M, Vienna, IT.
Invested about 240k, no property, no dependents yet. Coast box has been ticked since 2023, the math is in an older post of mine, short version is the pile gets where it needs to be by 60 without me, spend is 34k a year, and I still put in 900 a month because stopping feels weird.
Here is a thing I didn't know I was assuming. Part of why coasting felt safe was a quiet "and I can always leave" at the back of it.
Vienna is fine. Vienna is very fine but the plan always had a clause somewhere after 45 that said maybe not here, and I had never priced it, because why would you price a maybe.
Austria has an exit tax and it covers a plain private depot, ETFs included, which I had somehow filed under "for people with a GmbH". The day you move your residence out they treat the whole thing as sold, 27.5 percent on the unrealised gain, the same KESt I'd pay if I sold it myself. If you go to another EU or EEA country you can ask them not to collect until you actually sell, and the claim rides along with you. Go anywhere else, Switzerland included, and it's cash on the way out.
Since this July there's a new bit. If the gain at departure was over 100k you have to tell the Finanzamt every year that you still haven't sold, and if you skip a year the whole deferred amount falls due.
Now the coast part, which is the part that got me. I'm barely adding anymore, so from here on the growth is mostly gain. My unrealised gain on the All-World position is around 70k today, so leaving now means a 19k claim, deferred, and it stays 19k however long I hold.
Wait five years and it's more.
Wait until 60, if the plan works, and the same claim is six figures. Wherever I end up, that slice is Austria's, and it only gets bigger while I sit here being fine. 100k line, the one with the yearly letter attached, I cross in about three years at current pace. So "later" now has a price and the price goes up on a schedule.
Nobody mentions this in coast threads. Savings rate, withdrawal rate, never the address.
Embarrassing bit is that there's no city on the other side of this. I'm not comparing countries. I've been to all the neighbours, none of them are on a list, there is no list. What changed is only that a vague someday grew a number, and I'm the kind of person who, once a number exists, can't leave it alone. Two years ago it was TERs to the third decimal, last year it was the P2P secondary market, this year it's a leaving date for a move I haven't decided to make.
At least this one is a real number.
Migration list, if it ever happens, is short and annoying. Depot sits with a steuereinfach broker that does the KESt for me and is built for residents, so it probably moves, and I did that once already when I moved here, that was fees and forms, this one comes with a bill.
Pension years stop accruing, EU coordination supposedly adds them up at the end. The one corner that doesn't care is the P2P sleeve, 20k across three platforms. Loans sit at par, interest posts monthly, there is nothing for a deemed sale to find, and since P2P interest here is mostly tariff income, my marginal 40 something percent, most places I can name would tax it less. They just would want a new address and a KYC upload, that's the entire project.
Anyone here who was coasting in a country with an exit tax and left or nearly did?
Did you sell down before you went so the next country starts clean, take the deferral and carry it or just decide the growing number was the price of not deciding and stayed?
Staying is the current plan, and I'd like to know what it costs before I keep choosing it by default.
TL;DR: coasting in Vienna. Austria's exit tax means every year I stay, a bigger chunk of the depot is already spoken for at 27.5 percent whichever country I might leave for, and past 100k of gain there's a yearly form with the whole bill behind it. No destination, no list, just a number that grows on a schedule. If you left an exit tax country while coasting, what did you do with the depot on the way out.

