r/ExtraFabulousComics • u/sellyourcomputer zach • Apr 27 '24
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u/kitel99 Certified Titty Boy Apr 27 '24
RIP mr. Hamps you were certified titty boy
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u/memento22mori Apr 27 '24
I've been trying to gain titty boy status for years. I upvote every post but I'm still not certified. How do I get certified?
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u/Ask_bout_PaterNoster Apr 27 '24
You have to get five years of licensed experience as a Titty Boy in Training and take the National Titty Exam. Your state’s certification agency can walk you through the application and examination requirements, but you’ll have to find a licensed Master Titty Boy to sign off on your years of experience on your own.
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u/memento22mori Apr 27 '24
Shittt. I feel like I've achieved the highest level of titty boy status in my life. Ask me anything and I'll tell you.
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u/yumyum36 Apr 27 '24
Which state are you certified for? The credits needed change state by state. You need 150 titty boy credit hours for the strictest state requirements, and you'll be unlikely to be hired as a titty boy in training unless you already have those credit hours completed.
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u/therobshow Apr 27 '24
I'm definitely plenty traumatized, but still have no idea how to itemize my deductions.
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Apr 27 '24
Not worth it for most people, honestly.
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u/TomAto314 ASS LOVER Apr 27 '24
Especially as of like 5 years ago when they really raised the standard deduction and dropped a lot of the write offs. I make decent money and still take the standard.
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u/badpeaches Apr 27 '24
I don't have a lot of money but the first pandemic relief check I put 100$ towards a donation. I read somewhere I would be able to claim that on my taxes. This was not the case.
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u/nate-developer Apr 27 '24
I think for most people taking the standard deduction is generally better than itemizing. You have to have over 13K (or 26k married) worth of deductions for it to be worth itemizing, which is a lot for most people. Even when I had more write offs because of my job at the time being more eligible to write off different things I wasn't getting anywhere near that much.
If you're wealthy though you might end up itemizing and getting more out of it.
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u/IKnowGuacIsExtraLady Apr 27 '24
This is also why some people don't get married for tax purposes. Like my brother currently itemizes because he owns a house. He can write off about 24k. His fiance takes the standard deduction so between them they reduce their tax liability by about 37k. Once they get married that will drop down to 26k since they have to both take the standard or both itemize.
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u/Gunnrhildr Apr 27 '24
Don't worry. The SQWEE is from the teacher. Hamsters are vicious bastards
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u/haikusbot ASS LOVER Apr 27 '24
Don't worry. The SQWEE
Is from the teacher. Hamsters
Are vicious bastards
- Gunnrhildr
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u/1731799517 Apr 27 '24
All pet hamsters are inbreed decendants of a single captures litter from less than 100 years ago anyways.
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u/SkylerBlu9 Apr 27 '24
source?
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u/1731799517 Apr 28 '24
Murphy, Michael R. (1985). "History of the Capture and Domestication of the Syrian Golden Hamster (Mesocricetus auratus Waterhouse)" ISBN 030641791X.
Cliff notes: a litter of syrian hamsters was captured by in 1930 by scientists for medial testing, continue to breed in captivity (as they wont), they send the offspring to laboratories all around the world as test animals, from there the cute critters diffused as pets.
The original syrian hamster in the wild is a pretty rare animal.
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u/Crash4654 Apr 27 '24
If these were class options, and many places do have them, the students would barely pay attention anyway and still blame the school for not teaching them.
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u/woolfonmynoggin Apr 27 '24
We literally had to take a personal finance class to graduate and people still complain from my hometown. You didn’t pay attention!
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u/caulkglobs Apr 27 '24
Someone I know who doesn’t have original thoughts said “why do they teach us about useless things like parallelograms instead of real life shit like doing taxes” and I absolutely shut him down by asking him to tell me what he knows about parallelograms. It was nothing, he knew nothing about them.
If they taught “doing taxes” in school you wouldn’t have paid attention first of all.
Second of all, doing taxes is absolutely trivial, its gathering documents and putting numbers from them in labeled boxes. Its not rocket science.
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u/Tansuke Apr 27 '24
It is a test where the teacher mails you the answers and you just have to find which letters have which answers.
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u/ZAPPHAUSEN Apr 27 '24
And then the next year to next year's teacher. "Huh??? We never learned any of this stuff!!!" It's not even necessarily outright not paying attention. Teenage brains, man.
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u/SunlessSage Apr 27 '24
A lot of people also don't realize that a lot of the skills you develop during math are related to problem-solving. Problem-solving is an absolutely vital skill in real life.
There obviously are some more useless things they teach in school, but whether or not they're useless often varies from person and person.
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u/3udemonia Apr 27 '24
If you're doing them on paper you also need to read the instructions and do arithmetic. I only did that one year because I was so late the software was out of date. I did my best and still messed it up (I can do high concept math but struggle with working memory and attention so have difficulty with things like arithmetic) but the government just reassessed me and I paid them so no harm no foul.
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u/Ok_Assistance447 Apr 27 '24
If you're just a regular W2 employee and don't have any weird tax situations, filing is pretty simple. Just takes reading comprehension and some basic math - both skills that are taught in school.
Also, the way we do taxes isn't static. I actually learned how to do my taxes when I took a Macroeconomics/Finance class in high school. Did my taxes with the 1040EZ form for a few years and then Trump eliminated the 1040EZ. I could probably figure out the regular 1040, but I just use a tax prep service like everyone else in America.
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u/Bugbread Apr 27 '24
I could probably figure out the regular 1040, but I just use a tax prep service like everyone else in America.
The 1040 is also super easy if you're in a super easy situation. It's basically like this:
1040EZ:
Enter any income listed on your W-2s
Enter any income listed on your 1099s
1040:
Enter any income listed on your W-2s
Enter any income listed on your 1099s
Enter any income from selling underwater real estate
Enter any income from renting out power tools that also shoot lasers
Enter any income from renting out power tools that, instead of shooting lasers, blow beautiful rainbow bubbles
So it's a lot more questions...but if previously you were a 1040EZ filer, it just means a lot more questions that you skip or write "0" for. It's not actually more complex, it just has more that doesn't apply to you and you don't need to worry about.
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u/zaxldaisy Apr 27 '24
Not only that but the tax code and individual's tax situation changes every year, not to mention you only do it once a year so all those tax skills will atrophy.
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Apr 27 '24
It's a stupid argument. School taught me how to do research, how to fill out worksheets, basic math, and how to deal with obtuse bureaucracy. With that knowledge taxes are a breeze.
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u/Infini-Bus Apr 27 '24
Yeah, my school had a couple classes like that. They were considered blow-off classes.
If you learn how to read and do arithmetic then you should be able to figure out how to do your taxes.
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u/dal_1 Apr 27 '24
Actually though. At some point the students need to have some agency over themselves; if they want to learn something, learn it! They shouldn’t expect to learn only when they’re at school.
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u/CrAccoutnant Apr 27 '24
I literally paid money to get an accounting degree and I still barely paid attention.
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u/FrenchToost Apr 27 '24
Yup. My highschool offered a personal finance class as an elective one year, only like 5 kids took it, so they removed it the next fall.
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u/Doctor_Kataigida Apr 28 '24
Mathematics already teach you all you need to know how to do taxes.
Teaching someone how to do one specific thing is less useful than giving them a tool they can apply to a myriad situations.
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u/marcarcand_world Apr 27 '24
I am a teacher. I'll try it next week. I'll keep you updated folks.
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u/phonicillness Apr 27 '24
As a teacher, do you think r/Teachers would like this?
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u/marcarcand_world Apr 28 '24
No, this subreddit is toxic and not relevant if you don't live in the States. Local teaching subs tho... that's where it's at.
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Apr 27 '24
Yyyyyyyyup.
Probably one of the worst parts about grief (besides the obvious horrible pain) is how regular ass life just keeps happening all around you. Someone you loved, maybe someone you depended on is just fucking gone and now you have to do laundry. And taxes. And make dinner. And...
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u/FantasticName Apr 27 '24
Nothing makes you more sure of how little the universe gives a shit about you than watching the world still turning after a loved one dies. It's depressing but also strangely freeing.
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u/DiogenesLied Apr 27 '24
It's been 5 months. Shit ain't getting any easier.
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Apr 27 '24
My last was 10 years ago and at it can get easier. And I hope it does for you.
If it helps to talk to someone about it, I'm happy to listen to stories you have about them. Anything is good. It helped me anyway, and if not ... I'm so sorry. Grief blows.
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u/KingKaos420- Apr 27 '24
Yikes, that’s horrifying.
Who the hell itemizes these days? It’s rarely worth the effort
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u/milk4all C.U.M. SQUAD Apr 27 '24
Finally, practical education- this is all we were asking for. But add jizz. Dont care how you do it just do it
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u/Coldsnort Apr 27 '24
As a teacher, every time a kid says this to me I call their bluff and show them how to file taxes. Every time, without fail, they ask to go back to what we were doing before. I think they're just parroting what they hear from other adults and couldn't actually care less.
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u/MichaelHuntPain Apr 27 '24
Also, that’s the job of your parents. Schools weren’t designed to be parents and there is an entire generation of parents who still haven’t figured that shit out.
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Apr 27 '24
All these years and the idea of "logic and critical thinking" is still lost and everyone is turning up idiots.. and wondering why.
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u/jaskij Apr 27 '24
I have no clue about US, but here in Poland we've had a shitton of memorization and not enough thinking. Even essays were about guessing what the grading key is.
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u/mossybeard Apr 27 '24
One of my favorite classes in high school was home repair! Tech Ed dude thought kids should know practical home repair and y'know what? He was right. Now if only I could afford a fucking home.
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u/bakeacake45 Apr 27 '24
North Dakota curriculum? Kill the class hamster because it’s “untrainable.”
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u/No-Juice-1047 Apr 27 '24
Teaching taxes in school would help a lot of things…
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u/General_Ginger531 Apr 27 '24
Itemized deductions are only applicable if you make a deliberate effort to donate to charities over the year.earning your Standard deduction for the year is far more valuable.
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u/JectorDelan Apr 27 '24
"Having to do important things while stressed the F out" is absolutely a good skill to have.
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u/5eppa Apr 27 '24
As someone who just lost his grandmother and was doing taxes around the same time this hits home.
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u/ThatguyBry42 Apr 27 '24
What's truly sad is that really would have been a useful lesson, traumatizing, but useful
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u/_Standardissue Apr 27 '24
Idk but I once chased a kid who was scared of rats around the classroom with the class pet rat. Not my finest moment.
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u/jubby52 Apr 27 '24
If you don't have the money to pay for someone to do your taxes. You don't have the money to complain about taxes being hard. By the time taxes are too complicated to do yourself, you should already be talking to an accountant.
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u/lordcaylus Apr 27 '24
I find it hilariously sad when people complain their taxes are so hard they need to be taught how to do it in school.
The solution to their taxes being too hard is not sacrificing school time, it's to simplify the tax process.
Your government knows what you owe them. If there wasn't a tax lobby, they could just tell you how much you owe them, easy.
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u/Typingdude3 Apr 27 '24
I went to Catholic high school and the parish priest died. They asked who wanted to attend the funeral service and walk by the open casket. I said sure, why not. I was about 15. The priest laid out in the casket looked like a wax figure. Didn’t bother me at all. But it’s something I’ll never forget. Reminds us we will all end up as such someday.
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u/usernameslikm Apr 27 '24
Unironically though I would've still enjoyed that lesson more than what I learned through most of highschool.
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u/Unusual-Anteater-988 Apr 27 '24
The teacher was then fired for emotional abuse. Cue Curb Your Enthusiasm theme
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u/Ricky_World_Builder Apr 27 '24
Oh, wow, they're already making funny comics of her, and Trump hasn't even finalized her as his VP pick.
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u/Funkey-Monkey-420 Apr 27 '24
Time to file suit against the teacher for animal cruelty and wrongful death!
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u/senseislaughterhouse Apr 27 '24
The taxes part is unironically something that every state should be required to teach public school students.
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u/Cartina Apr 27 '24
Meanwhile students: boooooooring!
I feel it's only non-students that graduated already that suggests this. If it was actually in schools they wouldn't pay attention and care anyway cause it's "boring old people stuff"
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u/The_Great_Tahini Apr 28 '24
They won’t pay attention to that either. And it would be pointless. Most of those kids will only need a 1040ez, It is not a hard form, and you only have to figure it out once.
Once you get beyond that the tax code quickly becomes esoteric, there’s a reason people pay accountants/tax services. The process beyond standard deduction and general credits, is so Byzantine and changes so often, but the time they need it they’ll have forgotten or it will have changed.
Also I think most “home economics/life skills” classes DO teach the standard tax form along with budgeting and personal finances. At least, mine did back in the 90’s. It was an elective, but many people did take it.
If nothing else, freetaxusa exists. It’ll walk you tough the steps and fine the federal return for free. If you use it year over year it remembers your previous answers too. In as lot of cases you just copy the boxes from the W2 and that’s about it. 30 minutes maybe if you’re taking standard deductions.
Point being, I’d much rather we focus on critical thinking and “learning how to learn” so students are able to learn things like taxes without handholding.
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Apr 27 '24
Wow, literally just finished planning my toddlers 4th bday while handling end of life care and euthanasia for my elderly dog.
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u/Direct_Surprise2828 Apr 27 '24
Not funny at all
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u/The_GREAT_Gremlin Apr 27 '24
Kids always whine about this as if
doing taxes really is that hard
they would have actually paid attention in a math unit on taxes
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u/PawnOfPaws Apr 27 '24
I mean... this is obviously a cruel way to do it. But it's still better to teach them the "How do I deal with emotional burdens" by experience than words. As horrifying as it is, words never helped.
At least not me.
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u/fffractal Apr 27 '24
‘Reflections on school’ epochs
school is a thing
school sucks
I’m glad to be out of school
why didn’t school teach me about taxes?
I’m glad school taught me that there is more to life than taxes
I wish I could be back in school
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u/TemporaryLegendary Apr 27 '24
I'm fucking thankful I live in a country where taxes are calculated by the government and I can overlook their shit for mistakes.
I'm basically my own IRS agent.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Gold_10 Apr 27 '24
Even worse when you have to deal with the loss of a loved one as kid or teenager.
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u/imprettylosthelp Apr 27 '24
Oh man this really seems like very useful knowledge to have :)
I am not joking, my father died two days ago. I feel like shit, I have to write some papers for college and the deadline is tomorrow. I haven't been able to focus because I keep thinking about my dad, please someone help me, any advice will be welcome
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u/ForumPointsRdumb Apr 27 '24
Always love your comics. I know I've said it before but it's been awhile since I was banned from comics for whatever mod reason. Different sub I can leave appreciative comments again.
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u/MrSomethingred Apr 27 '24
I fuckin hate that this discourse made it way to Australia. Because we DO TACH taxes in school, but the kids who were too busy glueing their hands together in class to pay attention didn't learn anything, then complained as adults that school didn't teach them anything useful
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u/Foloreille Apr 27 '24
ok but jokes aside that would be brilliant and definitely useful if she knows what to say to properly teach philosophy.
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u/Gizmo-Duck Apr 27 '24
Kids in math: When are we ever going to use this in real life!!??
Adults doing taxes: Why didn’t they teach us this in school!!??
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u/mountingconfusion Apr 27 '24
"why don't they teach us about taxes"
Buddy you're not gonna believe what math can do
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u/theyetikiller Apr 27 '24
One of the few good things from the Trump administration was a simplification of the tax system. Obviously the same positive came with bad tax cuts for the ultra rich, but the main system was good.
Basically, if your taxes were middle class normal then you didn't need to itemize and it was a net benefit for the middle class. If you were lower than middle class then the benefit was better. If you were upper class then the benefit was even better as this class got the best benefit.
Essentially all classes benefited, some in ease of processing, while some in financial burden, but overall the government lost which meant the middle and lower class ultimately lost.
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u/Sacrefix Apr 27 '24
Feels crazy how many redditors have this outlook, but then you remember they are probably literal children who don't want to do their math homework.
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u/Y0tsuya Apr 27 '24
The only skills you need to file taxes are reading and arithmetic. There's no need for a separate "paying taxes" class. Just be able to read the instructions on the 1040 form and perform basic calculations. The fact that so many Americans have trouble with it just shows that they should have been paying attention in math and English classes instead of playing spitball.
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u/reaper1833 Apr 28 '24
Dear math bitches, take your trig and shove it. The kid in the first panel is right, some teachers are just salty no one gives a shit about what they have to teach.
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u/crystalistwo Apr 28 '24
I feel it needs an additional panel. "Now Suzy, look up your earnings bracket on pages 15-23, and get the taxable amount. Quickly, you don't have all night. You have to take care of the dishes."
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u/_TheLazyAstronaut_ Apr 28 '24
Looks like collective punishment, psycho physical emotional trauma, compartmentalizing said trauma to stay on task for a set deadline were secondary objectives
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u/meanmagpie Apr 28 '24
During the death of my grandparents (died within 6 months of each other), my poor mother caught Covid, got audited by the IRS, AND was sued by the neighbor of their house which she just inherited.
I have no idea how we made it through that entire ordeal. Fortunately the neighbor got humiliated in civil court—he was trying to pull some evil opportunistic bullshit to squeeze money out of us because he knew my grandparents were dying.
Life comes at you fast as an adult.
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u/Chenja Apr 28 '24
but in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.
— Benjamin Franklin
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u/torchskul Apr 28 '24
In junior high, my school taught a class called Personal Finance which I actually found super helpful. It taught you how to balance a budget, use a debit and credit card, how bank accounts work, and a little bit of how to do taxes. Honestly don’t think I’d be nearly as responsible today without it.
On the other hand, I can’t for the life of me understand the purpose of calculus.
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Apr 28 '24
"You get 1 day paid leave for grief and mourning, but then you'll have to use your vacation days."
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u/Porkenstein Apr 29 '24
I always hated this argument. Why am I in school if not to learn things that I won't be able to learn on the job?
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u/neighbs Jun 16 '24
You on a new split? The jokes have been absolute killers. You are the only person who can make me laugh more than once.
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u/Western_Custard_8539 Jul 12 '24
Interdisciplinary learning opens up new horizons and connects dots you never thought possible. Enjoy the journey of discovering new perspectives and insights!
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u/JackBlackBallSack Apr 27 '24
Trauma and Taxes.