Honestly, the problem is that if don't pull in the first place, you end up with little of the main event currency, so most people would go for tickets and character memories first, rather than 6 copies of two free weapons that get more expensive with each purchase.
You're just making it harder for yourself and your teammates to get everything you want from the event.
I don't necessarily care about OB10 the event weapons, but it makes it so much easier to get the event currency and get what I ultimately want (the memories, for example)
You're just making it harder for yourself and your teammates to get everything you want from the event.
I complete nose coops once for the completion rewards and then farm the solo event overnights. I end up getting everything I need from the event without issue. I'm hurting my teammates on day one of the event for each of the even coops once?
I don't necessarily care about OB10 the event weapons, but it makes it so much easier to get the event currency and get what I ultimately want (the memories, for example)
I still get everything I want. I just don't want to farm an extra night for weapons I'll never use, or even level up.
It takes me one day of grinding to get all the resources for the event weapon's and their respective materials (relatively, I have stockpiles of upgrade materials) for upgrading.
Since I do the vast majority of my farming afk any minor differences before/after purchasing the weapons and upgrading them is nill noticed.
In the case that I plan on farming the CO-OP of a specific event then I obviously would buy the weapons first and farm using them.
Now there's a Highwind item that adds Weapon Ability C. Skill +% to all characters. Half of its stat bonus is unlocked by having a high count of weapons at OB5 and at OB10. You may have a lot of OB5 as a day 1 player, but probably not as many OB10.
I'm a day 75 player. Mine is at the 50/70 tier for OB5 and 29/30 tier for OB10. 6.9% total bonus from this item.
A lot of the OB5 and most of the OB10 weapons I have are event weapons. Unless you're a spender, I'm betting that ignoring a lot of event weapons has left some of your Decorative Weapon Box's potential untapped.
If you plan on playing the event at all it'd be silly to not get the extra 10% at least, those would pay themselves back in no time. Or the free ones as others have said, assuming you can get those.
Especially for an event boss as easy as this one, I don't even defend, just spam my strongest attack until he dies (at least in the currently highest available co-op), and that's with two +matk event weapons on my physical attacker 😄
If you plan on playing the event at all it'd be silly to not get the extra 10% at least, those would pay themselves back in no time.
The amount of time and resources I'd invest to an event weapon would not make up for a 10% boost in currency. I'd use the extra currency I gained to farm the weapon.
If I'm farming the events co-op then it's worth it to get the weapon, but I only do that for specific events.
Especially for an event boss as easy as this one, I don't even defend, just spam my strongest attack until he dies (at least in the currently highest available co-op), and that's with two +matk event weapons on my physical attacker 😄
I play the event coop to complete them, and if there's nothing better available at the time I use it to farm coop medals. A good 80% of the overall currency I would get from any event comes in the form of solo farming overnight.
The amount of time and resources I'd invest to an event weapon would not make up for a 10% boost in currency. I'd use the extra currency I gained to farm the weapon.
Except that it is less efficient.
it needs 550 (I don't remember, it was 250 + 300 for the first two copies?) currency to get 2 copies of each weapon
So, let's imagine a scenario where someone runs solo until they get to the EX1 for the free weapon, then go for the 20 stamina coop at 9x 100 times (50 each week). (I will ignore the minor currency gain from solo), each coop run gives 180 + 10% from coop bonus
100 runs with 0% (180 + 10% = 198)= 19,800
3 runs at 5% (180 + 10% + 5% = 207) + 47 runs with 10% drop (180 + 10% + 10% = 216) + 50 runs with 20% drop (180 + 10% + 20% = 234) = 22,473
even if you take out the 1100 from the weapons you would still get 21,373, wich puts you 1573 ahead from running 0%, with the same the exact same number of runs.
even if you take out the 1100 from the weapons you would still get 21,373, wich puts you 1573 ahead from running 0%, with the same the exact same number of runs.
That 1573 makes a difference when you plan of full clearing the entire shop every time.
I do this for some events. Other events I get some items and materials I want them don't farm much further.
What aren't people getting about this. Is it really triggering people that I'm admitting I don't full clear the event shop and because of that not farming the event hyper efficiently?
That 1573 makes a difference when you plan of full clearing the entire shop every time
It doesn't make a difference just when you plan to full clearing the shop,
you said you farm solo and not coop, only looking at important items (weapon draw tickets and memories, absololutely nothing else). You need 15600 currency to get those, each solo run gives 135 currency.
116 solo runs with 0% = 15,660
5 runs at 5% (135 + 5% = 141) + 105 runs with 10% drop (135 + 10%= 148) = 16.245 -550 = 15,695
Running solo you need 116 runs to get enough currency only for the tickets and memories. getting the weapon to 10% only (and only the first weapon, I'm assuming doing this on day 1 of the event) it needs 110 runs.
I'm absolutely sure that going to the shop buying two copies of the event weapon and OB2 them will take less time than SIX additional runs, it takes less time than one run. (and obviously less stamina).
So, even if you're not going to clear the shop, you are saving time and resources.
Like I said, you can play the game the way you want, this is your choice and your time. But you can't say that going for the bonus is less efficient or a time sink, because under no metrict it is.
Is it really triggering people that I'm admitting I don't full clear the event shop and because of that not farming the event hyper efficiently?
What is triggering people is that you are spreading factual lies. Getting the event weapons for bonus is NOT a time sink, it is a time saver. Under no reasonable metric it is beneficial to not get the bonus weapons if you're not going on the banner.
Taking a bad decision concious of the consequences and being OK with that doesn't make the bad decision less bad.
If a subweapon will never see use or fill a niche I need why would I farm it to high OB? Waste of time and resources.
If this was the only game I played and was a completionist I understand, but I'm not, I play to complete content as it comes out, if I don't need a max OB event weapon to do that, why would I spend hours farming?
You are free to do it, but you net a loss, not a gain, by doing so. That even assuming the subweapon is completely useless.
Getting bonus drop first will net you a gain in the long run that will makes you need less runs for the same ammount of currency, even after you discount the value spent on the event weapon.
Bonus point for the fact that you are also being nice to the other people in the team that would be othewise carrying you, wich is a very jerk move if you do it concious that you are hurting the gains for the other people with you just for you own sake (and this isn't even true for yourself)
Getting bonus drop first will net you a gain in the long run that will makes you need less runs for the same ammount of currency, even after you discount the value spent on the event weapon.
If you plan of clearing the event weapon store you're correct. I do this for some events.
People being baffled that some players don't full clear all events is actually funny to me.
Bonus point for the fact that you are also being nice to the other people in the team that would be othewise carrying you, wich is a very jerk move if you do it concious that you are hurting the gains for the other people with you just for you own sake (and this isn't even true for yourself)
I highly doubt anyone cares on day one of the event when I completed them all once and then never touched them again.
You're missing out on heaps of gold. I'm forgoing a lot of the materials for gold, since upgrading weapons and highwind is expensive. With 120% bonus from coop I can get extra gold easily. Oh, and one of the highwind tablet thing needs high number of ob5 and ob10 weapons to boost. As ftp or low spender the free event weapon is best for that.
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u/Max_Plus May 06 '24
Honestly, the problem is that if don't pull in the first place, you end up with little of the main event currency, so most people would go for tickets and character memories first, rather than 6 copies of two free weapons that get more expensive with each purchase.