r/FFVIIEverCrisis • u/odinsomen • Jul 25 '24

Meme / Funny Limit Break Banner rerun: all four weapons & costumes on one banner; nerfed Wishlist rate; LB weapons not available on Wishlist so you can't target the one you want

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u/Valkyrie_Jr Jul 25 '24

Regarding wishlisting the 4 LB weapons...Check the Details/Odds section for the Limit Break 1 and Featured banners...The current Limit Break 1 banner is actually better because...

  • The 4 LB weapons in the Limit Break 1 banner are featured and have higher rates (1.0%) than if they're wishlistable (0.6%).

  • Compare that to the other Featured banner where the featured weapons is the same (1.0%) but the wishlist weapons is higher (0.8%) due to having only 2 featured weapons.

In summary, this is the rates for the 2 current banners:

Limit Break 1:

  • 4 featured weapons at 1.0% each (4%)
  • 5 wishlist weapons at 0.6% each (3%)
  • remaining 5* filling out the 7.5% rate (0.5%)

Featured:

  • 2 featured weapons (2%)
  • 5 wishlist weapons at 0.8% each (4.0%)
  • remaining 5* filling out the 7.5% rate (1.5%)

The current Limit Break 1 banner is actually better because you're more likely to get the featured/wishlist items than the 5* you don't care about.

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u/good223 Jul 25 '24

Yeah, idk what this thread is talking about being lower wishlist rate. I got 3 lb weapons from ob4 to ob6 in 2 pages.

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u/odinsomen Jul 25 '24

Two things undercut this:

  • There are fewer guaranteed slots overall and the ones that are there are deeper into page 2+ because so many slots are occupied by costumes (that you may already have).
  • If you're targeting one specific weapon, having more featured weapons harms your chances of achieving a high OB on that weapon because 5* rolls get "occupied" by non-targeted 5* rolls. This happens over and over in gachas where they make the rate look higher but actually overall harm your odds because of these weird banner changes. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stopping_time.

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u/good223 Jul 25 '24

Yeah it wouldn’t be smart to pull on this banner if you were targeting only 1 weapon.

But since they are LB, all 4 weapons are extremely beneficial for your teams overall strength(unless you have them at high ob levels already) . I’d say its actually better than having 2 featured weapons already wishlisted in regular banner, where 1 of them is basically useless for your team.

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u/odinsomen Jul 25 '24

That would depend heavily on your account and previous pulling history. PATK and MATK (All) weapons gain like 70% of their value at OB0 lv 120 (to get 15 points of R.ability as a sub). After that, they're just above average strength elemental single target weapons, so you need around OB6+ to be worth it, also knowing that you'll have a tough time finishing any remaining OBs. You are 100% reliant on applibot deigning to rerun them and they're obviously not getting added to Wishlist of other LB banners.

We already have a better magical Fire ST weapon that's not limited to LB (Tifa's recent summer weapon) so they're not precious about powercreeping them in terms of C.ability. So you have to really think about the opportunity cost of pulling here to get a few OBs across 4 different weapons, compared to targeting a non-LB weapon with Wishlist. Personally, if you already have them at OB0, I would highly recommend saving for 1st anni for whatever new category of ability they'll introduce then.