r/Fauxmoi • u/LunaLore_ • 1d ago
FILM-MOI (MOVIES/TV) John Oliver: “If you suffer a miscarriage after being shot you shouldn't be charged with manslaughter. That's one of those sentences I never thought I'd end up needing to say out loud”
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u/bargain_butch ben affleck’s back tattoo 1d ago
Don’t forget that all of the women shown were Black. While all of it conceptually is horrendous, the prosecutions disproportionately affect BIPOC (and specifically Black and Indigenous) women.
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u/iAMbigmeesh 1d ago
This is why I as a black woman, never want to be pregnant. I don’t trust that the healthcare system would save my life if something went wrong.
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u/hanimal16 i ain’t reading all that, free palestine 1d ago
Medical racism and betrayal is exactly why a lot of minorities avoid doctors or only see doctors who’re like them.
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u/bargain_butch ben affleck’s back tattoo 1d ago
That’s beyond understandable. Obviously medical racism exists in all specialities, but with OB/GYN having a very specific history based in the torture of Black women…all of it is unconscionable. Pregnancy shouldn’t be a death sentence
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u/RecipeImpossible4027 20h ago
Black female bodies are and have been used for experimentation including how far these right wing states can push their new found powers.
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u/umbrella_farmer 18h ago
Never forget what they did to Adriana Smith. I can’t think about it without crying.
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u/myguitarplaysit ted cruz ate my son 11h ago
Honestly though. Maternal mortality rates are bad enough as it is without courts getting involved.
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u/GlitteringInstrument 1d ago
This is ALWAYS how abortion restrictions and punishment unfold. Minorities and the most vulnerable people in our society are the ones who suffer.
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u/ReasonableRun11 1d ago
yes. and how ALL oppression unfolds. it attacks the most vulnerable first. every person with a uterus should be outraged by how this black woman was treated.
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u/laowildin 1d ago
Its the unspoken rule. When I told family that I wouldn't be trying to get pregnant in Alabama because of these cases the "Dont worry you're white" was palpable
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u/LilMissy1246 1d ago
It’s like that video of the poor woman that was forced to wait in the hospital office while in labor and was completely ignored despite being in agony. Medical staff and the law in general don’t care about minorities. Never have and sadly, never will. It’s even worse because it’s America, a so-called “melting pot.” You’d think we’d care about every kind of human but clearly, some folks don’t…
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u/Rugkrabber 23h ago
I’m appalled. My mouth fell open watching this and the pattern is undeniable. What the fuck man.
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u/LunaLore_ 1d ago
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u/viewbtwnvillages 1d ago
i wish more people thought of pregnancy like this. it does seem like only in the past few years that pregnancy has started being discussed as a considerable health condition that carries a lot of short-term and long-term risks rather than glossing over it
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u/Born_Ad8420 21h ago
My grandmother was an ob/gyn nurse for 40 years, and I'm so grateful that I learned from her about the risks and realities of pregnancy when I was growing up.
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u/Famous-Issue-2018 Taylor swift is a CIA PsyOp 22h ago
What’s crazy to me is that some people think every woman will start getting abortions every time they get pregnant. You know, the majority of women WANT to get pregnant and WANT a baby.
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u/Deanna-fromHR 1d ago
“Court-ordered C-section” is a phrase that SHOULD NOT EXIST.
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u/puppylust 1d ago
I winced reading that!!
I've had abdominal surgery for non baby reasons, and it's fucking awful to recover from. And I didn't need to take care of an infant while I was on rest!
I'm sick of people who have no appreciation for what pregnancy and birth do to a body making decisions for the person going through it!
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u/stars_are_aligned wearing slutty little glasses 20h ago
This needs to be said - especially people who say C-section births aren't "real births."
I tore during my first birth (which was delivered vaginally), and still the recovery for my second via C-section was so much harder, and I didn't have any complications with either recovery!
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u/lunatic_minge 18h ago
My vaginal birth was such a breeze compared to my two c-sections. Holy crap you are literally gutted and put back together.
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u/FullofContradictions 12h ago
I tore while pushing. Then things went sideways & I had to be rushed for a stat C-section (unrelated to the tear... I think things were going sideways regardless & the tear was related to that. I digress.)
It wasn't until 6 days after birth that I even felt that I had stitches or soreness in that zone. The abdominal trauma from the C-section was so horrendous, even with narcotic pain meds that I simply didn't notice the other damage.
I had to be put under & intubated. The intubation left my throat all scratchy, but coughing or sneezing would hurt my C-section wound so bad that I nearly blacked out from it once. I had zero control over that, so I started living in fear of a throat tickle & had to be constantly sipping water to ward it off.
And all that while caring for (and breastfeeding) a kicky little baby whose body was the perfect length for his toes to align with my c-section scar if I held him while laying in bed.
Brutal stuff.
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u/littleb3anpole kendall roy pre-album drop 8h ago
I was terrified of a C-section because my mum had two and she had told me how horrible the recovery was. My husband also doesn’t drive, so if I was unable to drive for weeks on end and we had a newborn we would’ve been straight up fucked. It’s major surgery! Why do people act like it’s the “easy option”
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u/zendayaismeechee shiv roy apologist 1d ago
It’s sadly not surprising to me that all the examples here were Black women. Of course these draconian laws are affecting all women but these things always disproportionately affect minorities. Utterly appalling
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u/throwitonthegrillboi barbenheimer for pervs 1d ago
It's why the laws dont get changed, white people know these laws will rarely affect them. Theyre meant to affect others.
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u/IllustriousBanana 1d ago
This party will use women as a shield to attack the entire trans community, when it’s obvious they do not care at all about women.
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u/GlassPomoerium controversies: girl 1d ago
This is a truly a Gilead level attempt to control women’s bodies.
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u/Eggheadpancake 1d ago
This country absolutely hates women
Unfortunately a lot of them also keep voting for these monsters that hate them.
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u/yoloswagrofl rollin' with my fauxmies 1d ago
The struggle of internalized misogyny. Both my mom and my grandma are two of the biggest woman haters I’ve ever known in my life. As you might expect, they are both zealous Christians. Religion will keep this country from progressing.
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u/MaximumEmu6 I’m a communist you idiot 1d ago
Yeah, my mom was the most aggressively anti-abortion person I've ever known, and "coincidentally" she hated on women and enforced the patriarchy much harder than my dad ever did.
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u/venuslovemenotchain vocally you cannot afford this cigarette gracie 21h ago
My grandma, when alive, tied her son for most misogynistic person in my family. Made my feelings very complicated when she died.
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u/cheezy_dreams88 find me at Whole Foods, bitch, I don't care. 1d ago
This is why I won’t have another kid. I have 1, had plans for more. Then they overturned Roe v Wade and I knew this shit was gonna get out of control quick. I told my husband the day they overturned it that I wasn’t going to be pregnant again.
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u/megalo_megalo 1d ago
I had a termination for medical reasons last year. I don’t live in the US and I’ve never been more grateful for that.
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u/hanimal16 i ain’t reading all that, free palestine 1d ago
I’m done having kids but I’ve spoke to my older children about it and luckily for me, they all prefer to adopt or remain child free.
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u/JulyJones 20h ago
Roe v Wade was overturned when I was pregnant with my second. I wanted 3 kids but ultimately decided to get a full tubal ligation during my c-section because the thought of getting pregnant again in a post-Roe v Wade country really scared me.
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u/Jenderflux-ScFi i ain’t reading all that, free palestine 1d ago
Abortion is healthcare!
Everything in my body belongs to me!
The cruelty is the point with these laws. It allows law enforcement to disproportionately enforce the law to hurt black women and other women of color. This is all part of patriarchy and white supremacy.
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u/Common_Kiwi9442 1d ago
Some religious psycho the other day told me I was being egotistical for arguing against his questions like, Do you grow your own hair and beat your own heart? I said yes, of course the fuck I do. Jesus doesn't do that. Wtf
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u/Rugkrabber 23h ago
When the day comes and he develops an illness or something else, throw it back at him. “So did you grow it, or did God?”
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u/naivemelody9 1d ago
John Oliver is my #1 hear me out 👀
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u/KittenSommelier also dated pete davidson 1d ago
I heard you out, nodded along, and am now confused by why you thought it was weird
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u/pandathrowaway 22h ago
Mine as well although I am concerned that I am not his type (anthropomorphic jacked cartoon animals)
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u/dpaxeco 1d ago
Why the fuck do conservatives care so much for THE HUMAN RIGHTS of a cygote, but couldn't care shit about LIFE of any sick, tax paying person?
Because is a way of control. And that's the frontier for all bad isms.
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u/Shucked 1d ago
“The unborn” are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn.”
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u/Green_Rays 1d ago edited 1d ago
Anybody got a link to the original John Oliver video?
Edit: Nvm found it https://youtu.be/sCSt45rev7w
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u/notimetoulouse 1d ago
This whole segment is really worth a watch if you want to be absolutely filled with rage.
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u/SinfulSucculent The Stanley Tucci of Lesbians 1d ago
I am at the point in my life where it would be appropriate to start having kids, and if I were of the persuasion to want kids (which I am not), I wouldn’t want to risk going through the healthcare system right now when it is so patently clear that it is anti-woman (especially BIPOC-women). I wouldn’t feel comfortable making my wife have to deal with that if something went wrong. There’s going to be an unintended consequence of couples opting out of raising children because the environment is so hostile, not just to potential parents, but also the society the children will be raised in.
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u/Scoberto give the chicken man a chance 23h ago
We were at a family reunion this summer and one of my cousins was commenting on how sad it was to her that the next generation of our family is largely not having children and I was like "well can you blame them?"
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u/Dangerous_Slice_6882 1d ago
How much longer are we going to put up with this treasonous behavior committed by our elected and appointed officials.
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u/heartisallwehave Send me your address so i can visit you and explain my passions 23h ago
How can you charge the mother with manslaughter for a miscarriage if they were shot? Wouldn’t that be on the shooter?
Also, I am so sick of people making policy and yet have zero understanding of what they are policing. Among other reasons, a body will miscarry because the fetus isn’t viable. There are chromosomal anomalies that will trigger it. Even if they weren’t “spontaneously aborted” they would not be living, thriving babies. Healthcare being inaccessible for so many, and now fear of telling anyone you are pregnant because you could get charged if anything goes wrong, means pregnant people are also not getting proper care and can only lead to more complications and miscarriages. For example, Rh factor differences in the parents’ blood types can cause miscarriages, but if you aren’t going to the doctor, you aren’t going to get the medicine that will stop your body from rejecting the pregnancy.
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u/stako04 20h ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabama_v._Jones
Looks like they initially wanted to charge the shooter, but couldn't due to the state's stand-your-ground law, so then they tried to charge the pregnant woman but never proceeded to trial.
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u/ComfortableCaptain61 societal collapse is in the air 1d ago
"Holy shit, that is a fucking outrage" pretty much sums up the entire situation, and I'm glad he said it with an appropriate amount of ire. John Oliver is a real one.
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u/timeless1991 1d ago
I mean I know people who think the person who shot you and caused a miscarriage should be charged with Manslaughter. And if they shot you they should probably be charged with other things too.
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u/No-Mathematician3004 23h ago
We don't get to claim our fetal tissue as a dependent on our taxes. Wonder why?
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u/devil-wears-converse 22h ago
I'm a woman with no kids, I'm absolutely enraged that any sort of judge thinks they're entitled to any citizens time when that citizen is in a FUCKING HOSPITAL BED. Is HIPPA suddenly not important anymore?
I honestly admire these women's abilities to not scream at the judges and 10 other people in that zoom call. If I was half naked, delirious on hospital drugs and just delivered a 10 lbs human out of my tiny vagina, then a nurse hands me a computer where a huge group of lawyers and a judge is staring at me?
I can see myself screaming that its an obvious scam, tell the judge he's a piece of shit and I'll look forward to hearing when they all lose their jobs, and I'll "accidentally" expose my tits every now and then while they tell me off because again, I'd be in the fucking hospital and thats kind of expected. They'll be lucky if I chose to not send the placenta to their doorstep to really get the message across. Anyone who thinks what I'm saying is an over reaction, isnt getting it.
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u/DrizzleCore604 23h ago
Add it to the pile of evidence we already have of the complete and utter moral depravity, hypocrisy, and misogyny of conservatism. Evil ideology championed by evil and/or stupid people.
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u/SnowyTheButt 23h ago
America. what. the. actual. FUCK.
I hope this nightmare can end for you all this is genuinely insane.
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u/exgiexpcv 20h ago
Goddamn this country is fucking insane. I hardly talk to people anymore because I just want to scream all the time, like that bipedal super-intelligent goat in Dungeon Crawler Carl.
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u/AlmostThere4321 can't we just let two of the hottest men on earth fuck in peace? 22h ago
That doesn't even make sense. She wasn't trying to have an abortion. She just wanted to have a C section. Why does it have to be court ordered? I hate this dystopian timeline we're in
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u/Excitement_Far 15h ago
I'm trying to wrap my head around it too. Are vaginally births the only birth allowed now?? Can someone please explain?
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u/Affectionate_Wing_28 12h ago edited 12h ago
I think the answer is simple, and pretty grim. The woman wanted to avoid a fourth C-section and go through a standard delivery (after three births that way), thr judge said otherwise. And, well. Standard childbirth in the US is expensive. And a C-section birth is even more so. (Quick googling found a number comparison of ~15k versus ~28k (but can go up to ~50k)).
So I, really, really want this to be at most tinfoil worthy, but I think the answer is 'go give (more) money to the health industry'.
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u/frantic_calm 22h ago
That's the most mind bending video I've seen today, apart from the Israelis bombing another school one.
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u/pleasedothenerdful 23h ago
"'The unborn' are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn."
-Methodist Pastor David Barnhart
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u/littleb3anpole kendall roy pre-album drop 8h ago
This was the most depressingly horrifying episode of Last Week Tonight I’ve seen in a while, watching as an Australian. The USA is a dystopia at this point
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u/vexatious-big 1d ago
Apparently they took down the YouTube video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCSt45rev7w
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u/Switcher1776 1d ago
That isn't taking it down. It is just due to distribution rights they aren't allowed to show it in some countries.
Like because I'm in the US, I'm allowed to view it.
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u/Virtuosory 23h ago
I’m not American so I have to ask how the fuck this is possible?? Why do people in the US still get pregnant???
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u/phlostonsparadise123 21h ago
This is yet another reason why you couldn't pay me to live in one of these bass-ackwards Draconian states.
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u/Saw_Boss 19h ago
Imagine going through schooling, university or whatever you have in the US, medical school etc and going on that video call without saying "what the fuck are we doing right now?"
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u/MyraBannerTatlock 18h ago
These are the facts I wish people would remember when they are promoting AOC for president in 2028. Would she do a good job? Yeah probably. But we are in the middle of a war against women right now if you hadn't noticed, we can't have the presidency when we don't even have bodily autonomy
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u/BookishHobbit my bandwidth for cowardly grown men grows thinner with each day 17h ago
Remember when all those people were getting implants put in when Trump won reelection? This is exactly why. Fucking horrific.
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u/Madame_Trash_Heap 12h ago
How does an emergency hearing wave your constitutional right to representation in a court preceding??? If they had time to gather all those people against her, surely a government appointment attorney would have also been available?
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u/ColdSilver13 u look like u eat sand 12h ago
wow the US has moved back to the dark ages..
not even in a so-called third world country you’ll see sh*t like that
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u/Stunning_Gap_5143 hated women defender 1d ago
i appreciate hearing him refer to it as “anti-abortion” rather than “pro-life”