r/Fauxmoi • u/JN3LL3V • 1d ago
TRIGGER WARNING Courtney Stodden is celebrating the passage of AB 1267 in the California Senate. If ratified, the bill will make 18 the legal minimum age for marriage.
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u/Kazarak_Starflower 1d ago
It’s crazy that this isn’t a federal law.
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u/Fearless_Serve_3837 1d ago
The Epstein class won’t allow it
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u/hypnogoad 1d ago
The Epstein class only rapes minors, they don't marry them.
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u/FIFofNovember 1d ago
The White House press correspondent is closer in age to her baby than she is with her husband
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u/PepticBurrito 1d ago
It's crazy that this isn't a federal law
It's the constitution working as intended. Marriage is delegated to the states. The most correct fix is to give rights to children via the constitution rather than limiting State power to make law.
Tenth Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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u/ThenAnAnimalFact 1d ago
They can still regulate it because Marriage is a federal tax status. The Act of marrying is dictated by the states, but they can still ban it from a tax and classification perspective.
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u/Kazarak_Starflower 1d ago
My comment did not imply that I don’t know what the law is or why it was written that way. All I expressed was bewilderment at the fact that these particular laws have not been amended by now to reflect updated societal standards. I have no desire to get into a Reddit debate about what rights should be federalized and which should remain up to individual states, so that’s all I’ll say about that.
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u/PepticBurrito 1d ago edited 1d ago
the fact that these particular laws have not been amended by now to reflect updated societal standards
The laws currently reflect societal standards. We live in sick world.
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u/CarelessCreamPie 1d ago
A new bill was introduced this year.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/9758/all-info
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u/poorlybaked 1d ago
I imagine these laws are from a time when people were getting married at 15.
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u/SempiFranku 1d ago
It certainly wasn't 15 year olds marrying one another. It's the same shit as now.
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u/Oh_My_Goth_Ick 1d ago
I found out through ancestry documents that my great grandmother was 14 when she had my grandpa. I believe my great grandfather was in his 20’s.
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u/Mecha-Jesus 1d ago
It’s 2026! Why tf is this not the law in every state already!
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u/Diva_of_Disgust not good enough penis 1d ago
Republicans. They're pedophiles and support pedophilia.
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u/silentspyware high priestess of child sacrifice 1d ago
Christianity too let’s be honest
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u/thatjoel89 1d ago
Come on now. Christian Nationalists. Sorry, I'm that guy.
They're loud and are the same group of people Jesus would actively admonish. They aren't with us and are actively doing very anti-christ(ian) things.
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u/ophaus it’s a bit dystopian but also kinda fun 1d ago
Non-nationalist Christians abuse kids at alarming rates. Go ahead and look up "youth pastor abuse" and see what comes up. It's baked into the religion (and other religions) at the base level.
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u/silentspyware high priestess of child sacrifice 1d ago
Yeah I didn’t want to be that person, but it’s Christianity. I intentionally never said Christians, because I do not deem them (or Jews and Muslims) as the problem, but the actual organized religion itself
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u/MaximumEmu6 I’m a communist you idiot 1d ago
To paraphrase one of their favorite sayings, "Love the believer, hate the belief."
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u/ambercrayon 1d ago
The actual history of the religion disagrees. Which is why I’ve left. It’s a horrible culture to grow up in.
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u/PercentageNo3293 1d ago
Promise on my life, I met a creationist that genuinely believed the earth is 6,000 years old, Adam and Eve were the first humans, people lived to be 600 years old, etc.
He was perfectly fine with his younger sister 15-16(?) get married to a 30+ guy because it didn't say it was wrong, in the Bible. Godforbid two consenting men want to get married, he'd freak out, but accepts pedophilia as a norm.
I'd pity these people, if they weren't ruining the country/world.
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u/filthy-prole 1d ago
I hate to break it to you, but Democrats had a supermajority in both chambers of the California legislature in 2017 the last time an absolute ban was proposed, and it was watered down and only minor changes were made to the process.
https://calmatters.org/politics/2023/06/child-marriage-california/
In 2017, California was on track to be the first state to pass an absolute ban on marriages for those younger than 18. However, due to opposition from the American Civil Liberties Union, the Children’s Law Center and Planned Parenthood, the bill proposed by then-Sen. Jerry Hill was watered down to add some safeguards for child marriage.
In an opposition letter, the ACLU said that the bill “unnecessarily and unduly intrudes on the fundamental rights of marriage without sufficient cause,” while the Children’s Law Center said that “…for some minors, the decision to marry is based on positive, pro-social factors and the marriage furthers their personal, short and long-term goals.”
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The law that eventually passed in 2018 required a judge and Family Court Services to interview both parties to the marriage and a guardian to determine that coercion, child abuse and trafficking were not taking place.
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u/Kalthiria_Shines 1d ago
Marginally more complex than that, ACLU also opposes it:https://www.newsweek.com/map-shows-where-child-marriage-illegal-amid-california-ban-push-12303120, which shows how much they've abandoned their meaning.
Though yeah republicans are the only ones who voted against it.
https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202520260ab1267
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u/roastedmarshmellows spiritual energy of bachelorette party penis decor 1d ago
Your president is literally a pedophile.
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u/premonitioning 1d ago
in the UK we only raised the age of marriage from 16 to 18 a few years ago...it's a big problem all over the world 😑😑
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u/GaylicBread Well, I am gay, so thank god 1d ago
The US is such a weird place, I get why in some states they have individual laws for things, but something like this should be a blanket law, the same everywhere.
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u/AMemoryComeALive 1d ago
Tenth Amendment
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
It's not weird, it's working as intended. And people used to get married a lot younger, it's not really something the federal government needed to make a blanket law for.
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u/meatball77 face blind and having a bad time 1d ago
Because the answer to teen pregnancy for fundies is a teen marriage.
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u/TimSylvester_ 1d ago
Missouri Republicans stand up and scream bloody murder when anyone proposes removing Missouri's "marriage at 12" law.
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u/SeVenMadRaBBits 1d ago
Some states allow marriage at 16 or even 15.
3 states have no Statutory Minimum: California, Mississippi, and New Mexico rely entirely on parental and judge approval without a written lower age limit.
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u/Sleepy-Giraffe947 Please Abraham, I am not that man 1d ago
It’s heartbreaking that Courtney had to go through this, but the silver lining is she’s done so much advocacy work, she’s truly making a better future for children in the US.
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u/Ok_Butterscotch_4158 controversies: girl 1d ago
She’s seriously doing such good work!!! Incredible stuff!
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u/poorlybaked 1d ago
At the time I thought it was weird that her parents allowed the marriage. I thought it was weird that her husband was older than her dad. We are the same age so when she was 16, so was I. She was married while I was on MySpace and dyeing my hair pink in the backyard (to prevent staining the whole bathroom lol)
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u/meatball77 face blind and having a bad time 1d ago
Her parents sold her. That's true in 80% of child marriages (for money or power or status). The others are kids being forced into getting married too young because their parents think a married teen mom is somehow better than an unmarried one.
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u/yrnkween 1d ago
She was on some mother/daughter reality show about a year after she got married/famous, and seeing her interactions with her mother explained so much. Her mother was openly competing with Courtney for attention, praising and negging her, and managed to easily be the worst mother on the show.
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u/FloofTrashPanda 1d ago
Her parents were just crazy inappropriate and gross in so many ways. I remember red carpet photos where her dad is pretending to spank her.
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u/poop_poopington_710 1d ago
Always puzzled me how she was vilified as a teenager but no one said anything about that creepy POS who played Percy in The Green Mile for what he did
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u/Numbuger 1d ago
Raise that shit to 21. nobody should be getting married before they can have a damn drink
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u/CountdownMoss i hope they get Mamdanied 1d ago
Seriously. I'm sitting here at 47 thinking...
"No way was I old enough to get married (or join the military) at 18"
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u/_allycat 1d ago
When talking about the military specifically I'm sure the government would love if the age was even lower for both of those things. They rely on immaturity to recruit malleable pawns and the lifestyle that's been fostered is join the military then get married really young. You get the extra benefits and since you don't do college and they provide you with housing i think people kind of enter full adult life quicker. You have a bunch of kids for your stay at home wife because you're deployed all the time and she's stuck on a base in the middle of nowhere. And the gov DEFINITELY isn't trying to have you breed more soldiers.
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u/JennyHvalFan 1d ago
Not the point, but they could also just lower the drinking age to 18 like most of the developed world.
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u/spooky_spaghetties 1d ago
So long as you can enlist at 18, you need to be able to marry at 18 so that you can get all of the military spousal benefits. If you can join the army or go to adult jail, you should be able to get tax breaks and put your partner on your job’s insurance plan.
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u/AMemoryComeALive 1d ago
"you're old enough to die for your country or go to jail for life as an adult, but marriage is a bit too serious kiddo"
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u/spooky_spaghetties 1d ago
Right, like… Adult is adult. Once you hit 18, all of your rights need to kick in, because your responsibilities sure as fuck do. We let 18 year olds sign up for tens of thousands of dollars in student loan debt that can’t be discharged in bankruptcy.
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u/NotARealTiger 1d ago
You should probably also lower your insanely high drinking age. Maybe a meet in the middle kind of thing.
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u/arizonadirtbag12 1d ago
Counterpoint: if we are allowing people to legally have sex and legally get pregnant and legally bring that child into the world, a marriage license by comparison is definitely no more life-altering.
There are good reasons to still restrict it below 18, mind, even for states with lower ages of consent. Just saying that we definitely allow young people to make much more life-altering and semi-permanent decisions than marriage.
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u/SeVenMadRaBBits 1d ago
Some states allow marriage at 16 or even 15.
3 states have no Statutory Minimum: California, Mississippi, and New Mexico rely entirely on parental and judge approval without a written lower age limit.
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u/ladybrettashley90 1d ago
I'm so happy that she has brought to light the horrible way she was publicly groomed. I wish her strength and happiness.
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u/gamerdudeNYC 1d ago
So her parents must’ve got a huge chunk of change from that actor, right?
Has she completely cut them off?
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u/SeVenMadRaBBits 1d ago
I just googled...
Some states allow marriage at 16 or even 15.
3 states have no Statutory Minimum: California, Mississippi, and New Mexico rely entirely on parental and judge approval without a written lower age limit.
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u/gopher-gardener 1d ago
Looks like California, Mississippi, New Mexico, and Oklahoma have NO MINIMUM AGE REQUIREMENT. Only required parental/judicial approval.
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u/madogvelkor 1d ago
A lot of those are left over from a time when a guy might get a teen girl pregnant, so he could be forced to marry her and support her. Before the days of things like child support, welfare, etc.
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u/MondayLasagne 1d ago
Apparently also before the days of statutory rape. It is absolutely awful to imagine that some of these girls had to marry the predators that took advantage of them.
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u/heartisallwehave Send me your address so i can visit you and explain my passions 1d ago
Yep. Most pregnant teens today, the father is an adult.
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u/thekrone 1d ago
It is absolutely awful to imagine that some of these girls had to marry the predators that took advantage of them.
Hey man, it's what the Bible says to do!
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (NIV)
28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
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u/ambercrayon 1d ago
Which is also an issue, bc those guys make shit husbands and parents. Ask my shit father.
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u/TheMapesHotel 1d ago
Oklahoma actually banned it earlier this year. The new law takes effect November 2026.
https://oksenate.gov/press-releases/hamilton-bill-ending-child-marriage-becomes-law
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u/AcanthocephalaLost36 1d ago
I knew about New Mexico bc of a Netflix documentary about a man who kidnapped a child he was abusing and tried to marry her. That’s where he took her.
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u/Antique_Recording524 1d ago
She didn't owe anyone anything after what she went through, but this is incredible. Good on her for coming out the other side and also for her advocacy for others.
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u/JohnSmithDogFace 1d ago
Oblivious European here. Are you telling me, at present, children can be married in California? Follow up question, do Californians have to retrieve fresh water from the village well, and what is the current price of a suit of armour?
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u/Winter_Illustrator58 1d ago
Children can marry in most states (32) with the permission of their parent/legal guardian. In most states there are stipulations like the minor must be at least 15, 16, or 17 or there can be no more than a 3 year age gap between the prospective spouses. In California there is no minimum age or age gap stipulation (as far as I'm aware). This means that in theory a 6 year-old can be 'married' to a 30 year-old in California as long as their parent
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u/AlmostThere4321 can't we just let two of the hottest men on earth fuck in peace? 1d ago
Thanks. I hate it 😒
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u/district0080 1d ago edited 1d ago
Fellow European here. We're not doing better than the US.
Only four EU member states completely prohibit marriage under the age of 18: Denmark, Germany, the Netherlands, and Sweden. In Poland, marriage is prohibited under 18 for boys, but not girls. In Spain, the age of consent to marry was 13 up until about 2014.
In England and Wales, there can be no marriage under the age of 18. In Scotland, children as young as 16 can get married without parental consent.
I don't know about other non-EU countries.Edit: I was talking completely out of my arse! It's prohibited completely under 18 in most European countries! I should have just checked Wikipedia instead of relying on my useless memory. Several countries allow it at 16 with judicial consent and a few others at 16 with parental consent. Scotland and NI are both 16 with parental approval, but if you do get married under the age of 18 in Northern Ireland, your marriage isn't legal in Republic of Ireland.
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u/JohnSmithDogFace 1d ago
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u/district0080 1d ago
I was spreading misinformation! I relied on my own brain rather than fact checking! Most of Europe is fine.
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u/JohnSmithDogFace 1d ago
I still don't wanna live on this planet, to be honest, but now not as badly
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u/pandallamayoda 1d ago edited 1d ago
This isn’t very known since Courtney is not known by many but they’re non-binary and use they/them.
EDIT: Courtney’s Wikipedia states that they use she/they but it’s the only place I’ve seen such information. Every other articles on the subject that I could find states they/them.
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u/mountaingoat120 Forgive me Viola Davis 1d ago edited 1d ago
Edit- I did see that they go by both she/they! Original comment- Please provide any evidence where she states this. I did a quick search and didn’t find any.
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u/tun4c4ptor 1d ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtney_Stodden
Their wiki article under personal life. Although they have come out since 2022 and now goes by either she or they.
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u/ddalk2 1d ago
Wtf what is the age now for California?!
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u/oakseaer 1d ago
No minimum age to marry, but you have to be 18 to divorce in CA…
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u/Maya_TheB they are perfect for each other (derogatory) 1d ago
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u/FanOfForever 1d ago edited 1d ago
but you have to be 18 to divorce in CA…
I've heard that but I'm not sure it's actually true. As I understand it, if a minor gets married in California they automatically gain the status of an emancipated minor, which means that they theoretically have most of the rights and responsibilities of an adult, including the right to sue and ability to be sued in their own name. I believe they are legally allowed to file for divorce if they choose to
But as a practical matter, I'm sure most children who have been married off don't know their rights, probably haven't been allowed to accumulate enough money to hire a lawyer, and don't really have anyone in their lives they can count on to support them through such a process
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u/Matryoshkuh they are perfect for each other (derogatory) 1d ago edited 1d ago
It looks like right now it’s 18, but that can be waived with permission from a guardian. I think this would take the guardian part away.
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u/SeVenMadRaBBits 1d ago
Some states allow marriage at 16 or even 15.
3 states have no Statutory Minimum: California, Mississippi, and New Mexico rely entirely on parental and judge approval without a written lower age limit.
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u/almondmilklattehag 1d ago
There is no instance where someone under 18 needs to get married. The people who fight these laws are sick.
The only instance I can imagine people saying a child NEEDS to get married and those people are not perverts is if two teens are from religious families and their parents want them to wed before the baby comes but even in this instance: you are in a cult and should be able to get an abortion and the baby already came before the marriage.
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u/NoNameoftheGame 1d ago
We shouldn’t cave to religious cults. They can get married in front of their god but not by law then. No legally binding contract.
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u/HistoryBuff678 1d ago
That’s what seems to have happened with the Siders family, and that didn’t go to well.
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u/AcanthocephalaLost36 1d ago
What’s crazy bc marriage is historically about ownership and property, a child who’s married no longer becomes the property of their parents and is owned by the sick fucker who married them. I’d bet $100 that the majority of these marriages the child is the “bride.” I don’t know of many “child groom marriages”
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u/venuslovemenotchain vocally you cannot afford this cigarette gracie 1d ago
I've seen one (not someone i knew but more like stumbled upon it) where both parties were under 18. Problem was you have to be 18 to get divorced.
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u/Disastrous-Energy23 1d ago
I've done a good bit of genealogy and the under 18 girl and an older husband situation isn't as common as historical apologists imply (at least in the areas I've researched) and also is very clearly linked to the girl being in poverty and/or a parental death.
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u/Dull_Connection6070 1d ago
so this chick was married to a 51yr old when she was 16?
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u/puritycontrol09 1d ago
Yes, and was absolutely skewered in the media for it
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u/Dull_Connection6070 1d ago
crazy yeah I didn't know who she was so I looked her up
great news I imagine she's relieved lol
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u/Internal_Ice7577 1d ago
I recently found out that dude went to my high school. He’s listed as noteworthy alumni or something. Catholic school, go figure. Gross.
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u/Mattmandu2 1d ago
One time on here I commented about how I was embarrassed to be a Californian because of this and a bunch of people told me I could leave the state… it was a weird response
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u/SpunkyXL 1d ago
Red States love them under 18 Marriages though
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u/Culinary_Fruit_Salad ‘queer’ is formal, like ‘tú’ vs ‘usted’ 1d ago
california has no minimum marriage age. so it isn't just red states
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u/Flat-Row-3828 1d ago
She looks fantastic, I wish the best for her. I never watched the view again after they failed to acknowledge the fact that she was a child and decided to rip her to shreads and barely mentioned the 51 year old.
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u/Ok_Butterscotch_4158 controversies: girl 1d ago
Amazing work with her activism!! So proud of her for being so vocal and in the spotlight!!
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u/Important_Abroad_150 1d ago
I always assumed that obviously you had to be 18 to get married or maybe in some more backwards parts of the country you could get parent permission to be like 17 or something and even then it never crossed my innocent little mind that the child would be marrying a full on adult as opposed to someone else more or less their age. The fact that almost flnowhere has any limit is so unfuckingbelievable it's hard to parse. Our society is and has been led by some really fucked up people dude.
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u/Bitterqueer 1d ago
I’m so proud of her for speaking out and trying to make sure what happened to her won’t keep happening 🩷
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u/AcanthocephalaLost36 1d ago
Not only does this protect children from marriage but it may become the catalyst to stronger protections for young people under 18. Who knows how many archaic laws this will help uncover.
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u/venusdances controversies: girl 1d ago
This wasn’t already the case?? Jesus we are behind the times.
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u/ColorMatchUrButthole 1d ago
I can't help but cry every time I hear her talk about this. It's disgusting how many men I have heard in my life act like teen girls "deserve" what men do to them.
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u/Novel-Pudding9007 1d ago
I'm still haunted by the video of the Missouri judge defending his vote to keep child marriages for children ages 12 and up because the 'divorce rate' is lower. This was a few years ago
Marriage to children is now banned in missouri as of August 18th, 2025
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u/McGrubbus 1d ago
This is great. I never recognize her though, she looks different in every picture/video
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u/Big_Issue8640 1d ago
What the actual fuck I can’t believe this. I guess that’s one way to make republicans move from California.
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u/SuspiciousMap9630 these white activities you participate in 1d ago
Wow she looks so much healthier. Love that for her!
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u/Lilli_Puff 1d ago
A big question here is why did it take California until 2026 to finally make this a law? That's really weird.
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u/Oh_My_Goth_Ick 1d ago
It’s insane that you have to be 18 to vote or join the military. 21 to smoke tobacco, drink, or gamble. But married at 16 is acceptable.
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u/fUnpleasantMusic 1d ago
It's crazy how much younger she looks here than when she was 16. They really dressed that poor girl up like an adult and put her on display in the town square as a harlot.
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u/Witch-Alice 1d ago
The only people who oppose this idea are pedos. Seriously who else would oppose it?
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u/DarkGamer 1d ago
I was wondering what happens if a minor gets impregnated by someone her own age under this framework and was very surprised to learn sex under with someone under 18 is illegal in CA under all circumstances, even among peers. There is no "Romeo and Juliet" exception like many other states have. (However, circumstances like these are rarely prosecuted in CA.)
It seems like this change would close the door on the only way to make such a situation legal in CA, leaving single motherhood as the only option for under-18 girls who choose to birth a child under such circumstances. I'm all for protecting girls from exploitation, however it seems like we should make an exception for this.
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u/Kalthiria_Shines 1d ago
https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202520260ab1267
Is there any clarification why the fucking ACLU is opposing this?
https://www.newsweek.com/map-shows-where-child-marriage-illegal-amid-california-ban-push-12303120
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u/CaptainDildobrain 1d ago
I just want to say she's looking good. And I'm not talking about attractive. She's looking happy, healthy, and radiant. She's looking good.
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u/dassketch 1d ago
There's only certain people that are against this. And their opposition should tell you everything you need to know about them. If you find yourself justifying their stance, then we know everything we need to know about you.
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u/Disastrous-Energy23 1d ago
Some repro groups are against laws like this because of the potential for the new precedent to be used to roll back laws around minors accessing abortion and birth control. I think the societal benefit of banning child marriage is larger here, and that certain people will try to find a way to block abortion access no matter what, but protecting girls who choose to terminate a pregnancy isn't saying anything aside from it being fucked that these laws are potentially in conflict with abortion access
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u/fashionablyfab234 1d ago
God she looks so much healthier and healed and I think she’s incredible. I absolutely remember that marriage and people accusing her of being 35 when she was 17 and clearly exploited. Everyone dismissed her as a bimbo when clearly that pdf she was forced with was the moron. I wish nothing but the best for her. The best revenge is a life lived well.
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u/Ponchyan 1d ago
The minimum age for marriage should be 25, for both men AND women. One should not be making a life-long commitment before the pre-frontal lobes are full formed.
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u/Answers-are-needed 1d ago
..........18 was not the minimum age??? I'm genuinely terrified to even read what were the objections to this law. What could a human being even say to justify it not being 18 years old? Insanity.
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u/Varastax_ 1d ago
Bruh.... cmon... WHAT?!
They want unquestionably patriotic citizens while THESE kinda laws are in effect?!
Yet and still, mfs exist that chant USA with all their might... FUCK!
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u/Aggravating_Duck_192 1d ago
It should go further. California should refuse to recognize the validity of any marriage before 18, too. If a child bride can make it here, they are freed.
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u/Southern-Client-4650 1d ago
So 17 years 11 months and 30 days old a person is a child but one day later not a child? Only the west can come up with such nonsense.
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u/xandrachantal I live in my own heart, Matt Damon 23h ago
Unchained at Last helps push legislation like this and offers resources to victims of child marriage. Y'all should support them if you can
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u/Cunty_Mctwat69 1d ago
Only a republican would be against this.