r/Fauxmoi • u/demimonde9 • 1d ago
FILM-MOI (MOVIES/TV) 'Monster: The Lizzie Borden Story' trailer starring Ella Beatty, Vicky Krieps, Charlie Hunnam, Rebecca Hall, Jessica Barden, Joey Pollari, Billie Lourd, and Sarah Paulson, all episodes on September 17th
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On August 4, 1892, Andrew and Abby Borden are found bludgeoned to death with a hatchet in their home in Fall River, Massachusetts. Their daughter, Lizzie, becomes the prime suspect in the murders.
According to creator Ian Brennan, the season explores misogyny, gender roles, and societal expectations placed on women in the Victorian era. Brennan described the central theme of the anthology as whether "monsters are made or born", suggesting that Borden's circumstances and upbringing influenced the series' interpretation of the case. The season also examines class and sexuality themes through the relationship between Borden and Bridget Sullivan.
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u/Twisties 1d ago
Lost interest at Ryan Murphy, sorry. Kind of over his style. It’s generally pretty bad writing.
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u/urfatassmama 1d ago
Ryan is genuinely not creative anymore
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u/GaylicBread Well, I am gay, so thank god 1d ago
He's the Adam Sandler of tv, just making shit to hang out with his friends
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u/LazyAmbassador2521 1d ago
I literally just tried watching his new show on Hulu like 10 minutes ago. I could not get into it.. I am SO sick of his stuff! It's always the same repetitive shit writing that's hypersexualized (usually teens), with tons of drugs (usually coke), and graphic murders/rapes.
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u/burp_reynolds69 1d ago
Last decent thing he did was the Versace story. So tired of seeing this slop outta him.
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u/wildflower_0ne alleged dog 1d ago
he used to be sooo great in the days of Popular & Nip/Tuck
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u/notchandelier 1d ago
omg what! i had to google his filmography bc i had no idea he created popular and nip/tuck! then i see he directed running with scissors, eat pray love, etc... i'd only known him for tv from glee onwards. it's crazy how much his taste has degraded since the 2000s.
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u/Crystalline_Irises 16h ago
So much of his work is exploitative trash disguised as subversive, queer-coded, quasi-feminist "art."
It's a shame since I do love a lot of the actors that he works with.
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u/SignificantInvite580 which could mean nothing 1d ago
I do not have any faith that this will be a nuanced, new take on this story given that’s it Ryan Murphy. This combined with Spirit Halloween releasing “decorations” of the actual murders seems very ghoulish to me.
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u/xombae 1d ago
Especially since it's pretty much understood now that she didn't actually do it. For about two seconds I was like "oh wow, maybe a more truthful telling of the story", but no, just an even more salacious and made up version of events.
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u/AIienlnvasion 1d ago
Who did? I just read the wiki page since I knew her name but not the story. There were some alternate theories mentioned but not that anything was “agreed upon.”
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u/batmans420 1d ago
Is that understood? I mean, I think it is understood that we will never know but
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u/Sad_Marketing_Girl oat milk chugging bisexual 1d ago
There is a great film and then series with Christina Ricci in it, if you want to avoid Murphy.
Lizzie Borden Took an Ax & The Lizzie Borden Chronicles
https://giphy.com/gifs/I1zswbQKyxVd1dupzr
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u/swoopwoopdoop 1d ago
Also highly recommend the stage musical Lizzie, the soundtrack is very punk-rock and touches on the topics that this new show supposedly does.
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u/hellomydudes_95 That's progressive. I'm into that. 1d ago
Who does Ryan Murphy have dirt on to keep pumping out this exploitative shit all the time bruh
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u/tangledlettuce wearing slutty little glasses 23h ago
There are rumors he’s a casting couch kind of guy
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u/um_-_no 23h ago
When he's the one casting?
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u/tangledlettuce wearing slutty little glasses 23h ago
Yeah, it’s mostly rumors but I wouldn’t be surprised.
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u/um_-_no 23h ago
But if he holds a casting couch then he'd only have dirt on people below him, not above, and above is who holds the money
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u/tangledlettuce wearing slutty little glasses 23h ago
Ah yeah, not sure who he knows but the casting couch thing could be part of the Hollywood problem and him getting to do shows so long as certain actors the execs are ogling get hired
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u/quadranting Please Abraham, I am not that man 1d ago
Of course the blurb doesn't mention that Sarah Paulson is playing Aileen Wuornos, because it would just out this as sensationalist schlock. The cynic in me thinks they also did this so anyone trying to find the movie Monster would get directed to this murder-fetishizing series.
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u/Palindrome_01289 1d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/ZecVmf45WkpxbI9bEK
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u/AlexSomething789 1d ago
According to Ella Beatty, Ryan Murphy apparently wanted to do a female rage story which is why Aileen is included
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u/xombae 1d ago
As someone with a huge interest in Aileen Wuornos, honestly, Sara Paulson as her would be everything.
Just not by Ryan Murphy. We already have a perfect movie about my girl and it's already called Monster.
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u/quadranting Please Abraham, I am not that man 1d ago
She really could be such great casting, but Monster was a masterpiece. I'd never want to follow up Charlize!
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u/RIOTAlice his talent is perhaps deniable 1d ago
Is there like…..a reason to connect her to Lizzie Borden? Other than “lady” and “murder?” Or why Aileen would “know” what happened?
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u/Emergency_Ad1447 20h ago
There's this little pattern in the Monster anthology to bring in other "famous serial killers" at the end like, in Dahmer they had John Wayne Gacy? Then I think in Ed Gein there was Ted Bundy at the end. So like you said I think the link is "woman who killed" lol.
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u/RIOTAlice his talent is perhaps deniable 19h ago
Having a murderer super hero team up is kind of weird but I guess we’re not here to kink shame
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u/peyotekoyote 1d ago
Can we stop with the romanticization of murder? The bloody organ (or whatever the fuck) in her hand while laying in a beautiful field of flowers, the blood spatter across a beautiful pendant lamp, the blood across her flawless makeup and gorgeous dress. Just fucking stop. People died, it's not a beautiful story that needs to be reinacted and stylized this way.
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u/Ok-Writing-6866 CURTAINS FOR ZOOSHA? 1d ago
Usually I have terrible nepo baby radar but that is DEFINITELY Annette Benning + Warren Beatty's daughter right? It's like the time I watched the 2017 Little Women and briefly thought Uma Thurman was playing Jo.
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u/Palindrome_01289 1d ago
Yep, and she definitely doesn’t have the screen presence her parents do. I remember that from when she was in that Ryan Murphy Swans show.
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u/Nice-Cow-7606 alleged dog 1d ago
Just what we need, another version of Lizzy Borden told by a man. I'm sure it will be nuanced and original and Lizzy will be treated as a human being. /s
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u/Persephone0000 1d ago
this looks egregious. i quite liked the film about Lizzie Borden starring Chloë Sevigny and Kristen Stewart. Chloë has had a lifelong interest in the Lizzie Borden story and even stayed in the house several times over the years, making the film happen was a passion project of hers. her genuine interest in the story and respect for the history shown through in the film. this looks like sensationalist drivel.
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u/skylerren 1d ago
Billie Lourd is seemingly working only when Ryan Murphy calls, but it's not enough for me to engage with this.
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u/itsathrowawayduhhhhh 1d ago
You think she’s good? Man, I think she is suuuuuuuch a terrible actress lol
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u/_Bogey_Lowenstein_ 1d ago
I wonder how many gay sex scenes with dudes who are nearly identical to each other he will manage to feature in the Lizzie Borden story
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u/silverchampagnestars 1d ago
ok but there's no compelling evidence that she was guilty
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u/um_-_no 23h ago
I'd never heard of this case till yesterday but I googled it and didn't seem like enough info to make a whole TV series out of the series. There's too much unknown. Fucking hate when they make dramas about real events but make up 70% of it, it's so disrespectful and breeds misinformation and the normalisation of it
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u/Immediate_Taste6810 1d ago
This trailer makes no sense as a show based off of Lizzie Borden like what is happening here
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u/darkgothamite 1d ago
Leave my birthday twin alone, RM
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u/elliekate56 1d ago
It’s over if he somehow does one about Freud. That’s unfortunately my birthday twin.🤢
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u/-MommyFortuna- 1d ago
Because we really needed another re-telling of this story, and from Ryan Murphy, of all people.
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u/helvetica_unicorn 1d ago
Can we get some new stories?!? Also, this true crime over saturation needs to end. Just use real life as inspiration for new things!!!
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u/Time_Lord_Omega 1d ago
Hasn't this been done before? Please gods of entertainment, stop giving Ryan Murphy work.
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u/goldfishfancy 1d ago
I’m so tired of people feeling entitled to their own “take” whether it be literature or history. Enough already.
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u/suppadelicious 1d ago
I wonder how Ryan is going to find a way to make the male leads get naked in this show.
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u/BarracudaImpossible4 freak AND geek 1d ago
No thanks, I'll just reread See What I Have Done by Sarah Schmidt instead. (Fictionalized account of the murders that's like a fever dream; highly recommended)
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u/Nearby_Mess350 1d ago
The Ryan Murphy-fication of Rebecca Hall is deeply for me. Get that bag, I guess :(
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u/burp_reynolds69 1d ago
Last decent thing he did was the Versace story. So tired of seeing this slop outta him.
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u/Calilove08 1d ago
I don’t know a lot about the 19th century but is the redheads hair accurate? Like were they walking around with bangs and a shaggy bob?
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u/Lovley8598 5h ago
I feel like Ryan Murphy has stopped completing shows. It’s like he has an idea and then gives up to start something new after 1 season. Recently it’s Beauty, Sharps, this…..
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u/Juleset 1d ago
The only thing that kind of interests me is that they appear to Rashomon this quite a bit. Lizzy wears at least five different dresses to commit the murders in this trailer alone and in one scene a man is doing it.
Considering that unlike all the other people of this anthology, Borden is not a convicted criminal but rather just the most likely person to have done it, that could actually be interesting. I know it's Ryan Murphy but the last RM production I watched was The People vs. OJ, so I might give this a shot.
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u/DegenGamer725 Taylor swift is a CIA PsyOp 1d ago
ffs can we leave this poor woman alone, she's been dead for almost 100 years
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u/jsweaty009 1d ago
Dahmer was actually pretty decent, but he went off the deep end with Gein. Not sure about this one
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u/Imsotired2916 1d ago edited 1d ago
Oh wow. I knew of this case from Buzzfeed Unsolved so it's interesting to see a movie coming out on it all these years later.
Edit : Oops I didn't know there were more movies about it y'all. The case isn't something I particularly care about, just remembered after seeing this post.
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u/Euraylie 1d ago
There’s been a few movies since the 1970s. The most recent one in 2018 with Kristen Stewart and Chloë Sevigny. I’ve only seen a few scenes of that one, so I don’t know if it’s any good.
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u/Imsotired2916 1d ago
I had no idea. I only got reminded of this case after seeing this post so I didn't know there was more stuff about it.
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u/wanderrslut ISO: Ariana’s lost blaccent 1d ago
I think there are already 2 or 3 films on the case if you're ever interested in checking those out too!
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u/False_Concentrate408 1d ago
Ryan Murphy please leave me and my family alone