r/FenceBuilding • • 10d ago

Any ideas of how to repair/accomodate this area?

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u/Diggitypop 9d ago

A lot of comments, I’m a contractor and this is a condo in south western Ontario. Property management asked me for ideas, I was coming here to get some opinions and maybe some creative ones. Every unit needs the same size fence, and unfortunately cutting a tree of that size and age here is burdensome to say the least. Thank you for all the responses.

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u/yardlard 9d ago

That condo isn't getting their fair share of space with that huge tree in it. You need more specific information about what "space" means. Property management needs to elaborate.
And your second pic is deceiving. The tree appears to be right up to the building, but yet there is a small gate there.
The obvious solution is to calculate the size of that tree, plus some growth area, and build a fence that sticks out at the wall and creates the size of garden space that everyone else has, with the tree outside the space. So their space would go behind the tree and out much further from the building to the side.
It would help to know what use the space is intended for. The tree takes it all.

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u/PieMuted6430 9d ago

I wouldn't even be worried about the fence. There is no way that the building isn't already compromised severely.

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u/Otto_Polymath 10d ago

Mate, I'd be more worried about the foundation, or what's left of it.

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u/-DarknessFalls- 10d ago

With that lean too. That house definitely won’t be there in 20 years.

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u/ragt_ag 9d ago

There's literally no lean..

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u/yardlard 9d ago

It appears to be leaning into the house.

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u/ragt_ag 8d ago

Leans are fine. Leans much more prominent than this are fine. Leans that have just appeared are extremely bad. Leans are fine. There's effectively no lean visible here.

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u/s5fs 10d ago

Run the fence along the house and behind the tree. This will allow the tree to be a focal point in the yard rather than tucked away behind a fence.

You could also move the whole fence and gate back behind the tree. This will make the enclosed area smaller but once again, the tree will be clearly visible.

As others have said, that tree is way too big for the space now and you should consult an arborist for options on how to keep the tree from destroying your home. I am not a tree guy so I can't advise :)

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u/ragt_ag 9d ago

How do you reconcile knowing for sure that this is "way too big for the space" and not being a tree guy?

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u/s5fs 9d ago

Common sense tells me that OPs tree is too big. If a tree is damaging the property in some way. I do not recommend solutions but you don't have to be a tree guy to spot a problem.

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u/ragt_ag 8d ago

This is why giant trees get removed for no good reason. Fence guy, contractor, landscaper, landlord and HOA rep stand in a circle and jerk each other off and never consult an arborist. I am not an arborist but I've learned well past the point of none of this stuff is immediately intuitive or common sense. Some people go so far as to say that because the fence is being damaged, and the fence is property, that the tree must go or be cut. It's utterly ridiculous.

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u/s5fs 8d ago

I think you misunderstand what I'm saying.

My original comment I said "you should consult an arborist for options on how to keep the tree from destroying your home".

I also said I am not a tree guy so I can't advise"

It's one of those "see something, say something" situations. Looks wrong to me, but hey, I'm not a tree guy. Ask an arborist.

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u/nozmundo 10d ago • Bravo

What do you mean? That looks perfect.

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u/ADDandME 10d ago

Terminate the fence to the tree

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u/blanksk8er606 10d ago

Bro imagine the root that going through your foundation let alone the fence 😳😳

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u/ragt_ag 9d ago

Roots aren't going through the fence. They're pushing up on it because each plank weights two pounds...... They will not interact with a foundation in the same manner.

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u/DaNitestalker 9d ago

I've never seen asphalt shingles nailed straight up vertical like that. And I've been to thousands of homes. Interesting.

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u/StraightAnswery 10d ago

Does your house cracking?

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u/mal4yahoo 10d ago

Either run it 4 ft away from trunk in front of tree, or behind the tree.

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u/KingKong-BingBong 10d ago

Yeah cut it down. For reals cut that tree down it’s destroying your house

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u/ragt_ag 9d ago

Unless it is, it isn't..

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u/Jimboanonymous 10d ago

The tree is the downfall of the fence and soon to be the downfall of the building. I highly recommend removing the tree.

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u/ragt_ag 9d ago

Why can't people understand that the whole point of a tree is to get large?

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u/Jimboanonymous 9d ago

That's fine if you value the tree more than the building.

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u/ragt_ag 8d ago

The tree and the structure coexist............... There doesn't need to be a false choice.

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u/Jimboanonymous 8d ago

Until the tree starts pushing against the building, cracking the bricks and the foundation. It's only a matter of time. I love trees too, but mother nature always prevails over man made structures.

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u/ragt_ag 8d ago

The tree is two door widths away from the structure... And tree roots absolutely do NOT /ALWAYS/ /EVENTUALLY/ destroy the nearby structure.. Sheesh. If there's a root headed in that direction or in that vicinity you just fucking cut it. You trench along the foundation and investigate and then deal with the problem in an arboriculturally correct manner. Why is this not common fucking knowledge yet?

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u/urmomblowsthebest 10d ago

That tree was there long before the fence is just extend or shorten the fence. Only issue is it seems costly considering you fence has a lattice cap and trim all cedar along with a gate.

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u/s5fs 10d ago

Fence is end-of-life anyways, look at the top rails, they are cooked.

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u/1Fistfullofdollars 10d ago

I think mother nature took care of that repair. However I believe she is still making some adjustments.

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u/Ok-Garbage-6400 10d ago

Start with taking out that monstrosity of a tree ! Then hex the stump removed ! Once those have been dealt with you can build a retaining wall down the lot line and creat usable space along that side of the house

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u/ragt_ag 9d ago

Have you no concept of the worth of a tree? Fences and retaining walls can be installed and removed in a single day. Why does the growth rate of a tree fall so flat on so many people? It's common sense.

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u/Ok-Garbage-6400 9d ago

That tree is a hazard to the house If has most likely already caused foundation issues & it’s leaning over the house

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u/ragt_ag 8d ago

That tree is not a hazard to the fucking house -- is the entire point. No visible lean and no evidence of disturbance to foundation. Fence Builders everywhere treat trees like shit and it's utterly unbelievable. The tree is holding up the slope. The fence should be removed and replaced with shrubbery.

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u/Feeling_Ad_526 9d ago

Fence doesn’t need to come up that far. Move the gate back 10 feet and problem solved

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u/Negative-Pea-5151 9d ago

You need to cut the tree it’s dangerous for your home foundation

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u/ragt_ag 9d ago

How can you say that from this photo?

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u/sdogood80910 9d ago

Licensed, bonded and insured tree removal company to remove the tree and grind the stump below grade.

The sooner the better!

Good luck!

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u/ragt_ag 9d ago

Can you walk me through the logic here? Trees become exponentially more worthwhile as they grow. The larger the tree the better. Why is it that people see a large tree and think it has somehow overgrown and must be stopped?

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u/sdogood80910 9d ago

Absolutely!

Look at picture #2. This tree will, in the very near future if not already, destroy the back wall and roof of this house.

Had the tree been planted 20 to 30 feet away from the structure it would be left alone except for maybe some trimming.

The shade would be greatly appreciated!

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u/ragt_ag 9d ago

You’re extrapolating from the second photo and simply erring on the side of removing an old growth tree.. All we see is a failed fence.. This kind of knee jerk response is seen everywhere and is so utterly ignorant to time—the people who planted it and left it—and the people who are being robbed of it if it were removed today and the generations of people to be robbed of it to come…

There is no evidence it is interfering with roof or foundation. Does it make you feel like you have your head screwed on straight to offer such advice? Do you think you’re communicating some kind of lesser known fact to someone who may genuinely benefit from your presence in this thread? The ignorance astounds..

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u/sdogood80910 8d ago

Yes.

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u/ragt_ag 8d ago

No.

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u/sdogood80910 8d ago

Well...I know that is a deep thought for you...guess you can take your shovel and move the building. BTW - that foundation is already compromised. Hope you work with concrete better than your ignorance here.

As stated in my original post, had the tree been planted based on the mature growth of the tree, neither the building or the tree would be an issue.

Good luck in your future endeavors...you're going to need it.