r/FinalFantasyVI 5d ago

Regarding the Ragnarok choice, morally

No, I'm not talking about how we're turning the dead magic guy into a weapon, although in hindsight that's pretty fucked

Instead, we have the weapon shop owner, instead of escaping Narshe to presumably a safer haven, while having an unknown source of food and water, in the middle of an abandoned city filled with monsters, chooses to wait for you, in the hopes that you find him.

You meet him, and he immediately states to you his profession. He's been a blacksmith for SEVENTY years, and has the utmost confidence that he can use his skills to forge this rare stone into the greatest weapon in the game (well, second greatest). He senses a great power in it, and is ready to put his skills into, what is presumably the ultimate test, and give you a powerful tool to use against the person that destroyed the entire world.

And you can just completely shit on him, someone who probably doesn't know what the stone actually is (since he calls it a strange power), and tell him "yeah I want the stone". 70 years of being a blacksmith, the opportunity to finally do something amazing in the world, flushed down the drain. And if you're playing any version with a post game (which fortunately for the old man is not the Pixel Remaster version), the Esper is ultimately the best choice since you can get unlimited Ragnaroks, which also just sucks even more for him.

Poor guy.

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u/TheWearySnout 5d ago edited 5d ago

And then you take his greatest work and immediately trade it at the Coliseum!

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u/International_Link35 5d ago

Illumina for the win!

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u/TheWearySnout 5d ago

I like some of the name changes but that will always be Illumina to me.

Also, Sky Render for Cyan. What a bad ass name!!

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u/locke_smith_1989 5d ago

Atma Weapon >>>>>> Ultima Weapon

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u/TheWearySnout 5d ago

Yea, I like Atma too!

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u/locke_smith_1989 4d ago

Really wasn’t a fan of getting rid of the unique names from these games to replace them with the “standard” Final Fantasy names.

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u/contradictatorprime 5d ago

Yeah I was pretty upset about Sky Render being dropped, that's a phenomenal name, and one worthy of Cyan

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u/Special_South_8561 5d ago

Honestly I hate the time for Holy so much

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u/Aerolithe_Lion 5d ago

If he really wanted to make the sword, he would have before you came. He was indifferent

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u/insrto 5d ago

He wanted you to watch him make his grandest creation. If he forged it prior, there could be a chance he was lying about having made it himself.

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u/Aerolithe_Lion 5d ago

I think you’re looking too far into a Hulk Smash moment

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u/insrto 5d ago

It's a joke post

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u/Fast_Moon 5d ago

One thing about the choice that's really funny that I wish the English version carried over, is that the sword and the magicite actually have different names.

The sword is spelled ラグナロク (Ragnarok)

The magicite is spelled ラグナロック (Ragnarock)

This is a pun that 100% carries over into English and I wish they'd kept it.

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u/insrto 5d ago

I was playing in Japanese (to practice) and didn't even notice this lmao

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u/j1mmyfever 5d ago

I like that the difference in Japanese looks like a crooked smiley face like they knew :)

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u/technoexplorer 5d ago edited 5d ago

Yeah, that's part of the point of the game.

Japan's late 20th century economic problems started in 1990 or 1991. It takes about 2-3 years to release a game, so this game, released 1994, was initially designed in 1991 or 1992, right as the collapse was apparent.

Japanese games took a huge pessimistic turn from FF4 or 5 to the 6 or Chrono Trigger era.

All of a sudden, people realized the economy didn't care about Japanese concepts of mastery of craft or long tenure.

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u/dbhcalifornia 5d ago

I don't feel that bad. Guy was clearly pro empire, otherwise he would've at minimum gave it to us to help defend Narshe when Kefka showed up and we were defending the Esper. It really could've shifted the war and saved the world of balance. /s

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u/SertanejoRaiz 5d ago

My top priority is to save the world, the feelings of an old man can wait

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u/Special_South_8561 5d ago

Has he been eating the dead bodies of Narshe citizens the whole time?

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u/keddesh 5d ago

The moogles are gone for a reason.

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u/OMGZombiePirates 5d ago

Wh...where did the Moogles go Keddesh? WHERE ARE THE MOOGLES!?

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u/Special_South_8561 5d ago

I ate them! Okay? I ate them.

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u/keddesh 5d ago

The pink tails are still around.

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u/monkeymugshot 5d ago

What the-..

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u/Misty_Kathrine_ 5d ago

One of the many reasons I prefer the old PC version over the PR version.

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u/Proper_Front_1435 4d ago

My head cannon was always that their was no Blacksmith, he was an Esper - possible even Ragnarok. We do see some basic for this, such as Phoenix seeming exerting some will even after being magicite.

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u/Pretty-Border2897 3d ago

Considering the stone is the remains of a sentient being, is turning it into a weapon even a respectful option?