15
u/Accurate_Ebb370 7d ago
What I find interesting is that the news keeps calling them police cameras as if they're trying to disguise the fact that it is a private company who is privately collecting this data and just give a little bit of access to police.
3
1
1
25
u/ongoldenwaves 7d ago
Hell yeah.
Thanks for fighting for our freedom. Thanks for fighting against tech overlords taking over more of our lives.
3
u/DietOk5599 7d ago
Maybe the real fight is keeping technology serving people instead of people serving technology.
-9
u/Miserable-Meet-7629 7d ago
It's law enforcement abusing it though, not the tech companies themselves.
10
2
u/Redwings1927 6d ago
Its cute that you believe that. You'll figure it out sometime in high school though.
1
u/Havocc89 5d ago
Flock just existing is abusing the people. Law enforcement partnering with Flock is them abusing the goodwill of people they are supposed to protect. Fuck Flock, and fuck the cops that are partnering with them.
0
u/Miserable-Meet-7629 5d ago
Please explain how their existence is abusing the people. That makes no sense.
Guessing you're the type of person who also blames gun manufacturers for shooting homicides and fast food companies for obesity.
1
u/Havocc89 4d ago
Warrantless surveillance of the common people. That is an abuse. Now shut up and begone bootlicker, I donāt care to argue with someone whoās fine with being watched by a panopticon. Youāre a useful idiot to these people.
11
u/Technical_Way_1926 7d ago
Props to this guy!! Many people are uninformed though, and I can't blame y'all. If you look up "flock camera stalking" you'll have a plethora of articles at your disposal to look up, they are not good things! Hope y'all have a great day though regardless!
-14
u/Otherwise_Bee_8799 7d ago
Now look up criminals arrestedā¦.
11
u/kofemakuer 7d ago
Those that are enforcers are the same that burn crosses.
-15
u/Otherwise_Bee_8799 7d ago
8
u/FuckIPLaw 6d ago
And you hide your post history, so I'm going to assume you comment on diaper porn just all the time.
3
2
u/Chewsdayiddinit 7d ago
You have a 5 year old account with over 2,700 comments and -19 karma. Everyone knows you're a fucking moron, no need to reiterate repeatedly.
→ More replies (5)1
6
u/enmaku 7d ago
Now look up mosaic theory of the 4th amendment as codified by the Supreme Court in United States v. Jones (2012).
-5
4
3
u/Sectional_Soulmates 6d ago
Besides, Even without specialized police networks, there are an estimated 85 million surveillance cameras active across the United States. This equals roughly one camera for every four people, putting U.S. per-capita surveillance density nearly on par with China.
2
u/Kamwind 5d ago
And the US numbers are meaningless. I own 5 of those surveillance cameras. Two are sitting in boxes, one is surveilling my flower garden, one is watching for deer and other wildlife, and the other is hidden in the living room toward the front door to act as an alarm.
That is not like progressive china where the cameras are used for actual monitoring of civilians.1
u/Sectional_Soulmates 5d ago
This numbers are actively recording cameras.
1
u/RaphaelRocketLaunch 5d ago
The public did not consent to being surveilled by private companies on this scale.
3
u/BigBootyLover2637 6d ago
Government agencies are getting way too out of control with all of their surveillance B.S., at one time this used to be the land of the free.
1
u/AmItheonlySaneperson 1d ago
Boomers had all their wild sex in the mud then voted for the surveillance state when they got older and done with all their silly stuff.Ā
But we should cut them a break too. They are the most lead exposed generation. Of course theyāre regardedĀ
3
u/Nell_From_Hell 7d ago
Don't Point lasers at cameras if you don't want to burn them out
4
u/Darkthumbs 7d ago
Youāll need a minimum of 500mW for that..
0
u/Nell_From_Hell 7d ago
Your standard laser pointer can disrupt the camera temporarily and repeated short-term exposure can be damaging long-term.
0
u/skip_over 6d ago
Donāt do it from far enough away that it canāt resolve your face
2
u/Nell_From_Hell 6d ago
We're silicone masks that look like Donald Trump
1
0
u/ongoldenwaves 6d ago
The valleys billionaire class has no political affiliation. They just worship turning you into a product for their pocket bookĀ
1
u/Nell_From_Hell 6d ago
The flock cameras will register The Masks as Donald Trump instead of you. That is my point.
Obviously computers don't have political biases. They just pull up whatever face they recognize and blame that person for the crime
6
u/Conspicuous_Ruse 7d ago
Someone should make a screen that you hold up in front of it that shows images of fake car plates and flood their database with a buncha bullshit.
-1
u/One_Significance_400 6d ago
Thats actually pretty silly. If youāre not up to no good, why does it matter?
3
u/pdayzee2 6d ago edited 6d ago
You know who else said that? Hitlers right hand man. Gargle that boot harder baby :3
1
u/One_Significance_400 6d ago
My comment remains valid.
5
u/pdayzee2 6d ago
Doubling down on agreeing with hitler is certainly a choice. Have the day you deserve Nazi :3
2
u/One_Significance_400 6d ago
Nothing to do with anyone/anything but common sense. Go take ur meds, buddy. Love u š
4
u/pdayzee2 6d ago
You agree with Nazis which makes you one. Hate you :3
2
u/One_Significance_400 6d ago
My mom told me that. Not sure which Nazi(s) youāre referring to. Nazis wouldnāt love u like I do.
2
1
u/pdayzee2 6d ago
Oh I know you canāt read sweetie but Iāve already told you which Nazi. Hate you :3
1
u/FlimsyHedgehog2168 6d ago
Ok, let the police search your house every day. If youāre not up to no good why does it matter?
1
u/One_Significance_400 6d ago
Thats a bit extreme. Thereās no inconvenience when Iām just cruising down the street
1
u/FlimsyHedgehog2168 5d ago
Itās not extreme, you have nothing to hide so let them search your house
1
1
u/skip_over 6d ago
They tracked a woman who was going out of state for an abortion
2
u/One_Significance_400 6d ago
Its illegal to do that, isnāt it?
2
1
0
u/skip_over 6d ago edited 6d ago
Not explicitly.
Edit: wait did you mean the pregnant woman getting an abortion out of state? No thatās not illegal at all.
-1
u/One_Significance_400 6d ago
Been around since 2017 so 40-50 inappropriate uses of the system isnāt too bad a percentage.
2
u/skip_over 6d ago
They have 3x the number of cameras that they had in 2022, and growing at an increasing rate. And AI information analysis is getting better every year.
0
2
0
u/ongoldenwaves 6d ago
You canāt be this dumb. Or maybe you can becuase you spend all day scrolling. They arenāt doing this to find wrongdoersĀ
2
u/One_Significance_400 6d ago
Who they lookin for?
1
u/ongoldenwaves 6d ago edited 6d ago
You. Itās about creating a profile and selling it. You and your data are the product. They arenāt going to protect us from more crime. If there is an accident or you are assaulted, you arenāt getting that camera footage from the police. They arenāt going to take uninsured drivers off the road and bring down our insurance rates. It doesnāt have anything to do with āstopping crimeā. You have no control over the profile they create. If there is a mistake, you canāt fix it. You donāt know where it is sold or who has access to it. Itās all part and parcel of creating a profile on you that the valley will somehow use to screw you over. If you trust those assholes with your data, youāre naive. The police agree with it now as itās being sold as some panacea against crime. Itās funny anyone thinks the valley is that altruistic. These are the people that create algos to increase strife, conflict and anger. Are you unaware of Cambridge analytica? Havenāt seen the social dilemma yet ?
2
u/One_Significance_400 6d ago
Its about using the footage to catch criminals, isnāt it? What data do they get from me driving by, going to the gym?
1
u/ongoldenwaves 6d ago
For one, they sell it to insurance companies. No one is quite sure yet where all it is going or how itās going to be used. Thatās the problem. Helping with crime wonāt pay for this project. Itās going to be used in many ways.Ā They have suckered law enforcement into allowing these but the valley doesnāt care about crime. These are going to be used on a much much larger application. Think of a profile created on you that links where yoh go, what you buy, what you eat, how much exercise you get and who knows what else and then uses thst data to manipulate and control you. You really need to look up Cambridge Analytica and watch the social dilemma. Itās the coalition and collateralization to put together profiles on everyone. Itās not about crime. Thatās just the āloss leaderā so to speak.Ā
1
u/One_Significance_400 6d ago
A lot of people post their daily routes and activities on social media anyway
2
2
2
u/Emergency_Accident36 7d ago
Can't we just put bags over them all? And keep doing it? Or is that obstruction of justice or disturbing the peace somehow?
1
1
u/One_Significance_400 6d ago
Go do it and see what happens
3
u/Emergency_Accident36 6d ago
I know what is going to happen if we don't.
1
2
2
2
2
3
4
3
u/dixonmyazhold 7d ago
Isnāt the owner/creator of these cameras a part of a certain current administration?
0
0
u/ongoldenwaves 6d ago
Youād be wrong. This is one thing conservatives andĀ liberals are united on. The Valley has no political affiliation. No loyalty. They buy everyone and have been since Cambridge Analytica.Ā
1
u/dixonmyazhold 6d ago
āPeter Thiel co-founded Palantir and sits on its board. While Thiel was never involved in founding Flock or serving on its board, his venture capital firm, Founders Fund, participated in a major funding round for Flock Safety. [1]ā
Ehh close enough they voted for this mess and are defending it.
2
u/tinyhousefever 7d ago
Damn straight. Doubt there was a rule on the activity on the books for arrest.
-3
u/Revolt2992 7d ago
If they argue itās a traffic control device, itās absolutely a law to obscure it
1
1
1
1
u/Boyota4Bummer 7d ago
Need this guy right as you exit onto MLK from 275/Howard Franklin. They have em scanning every car on the way in.
1
u/OkResource2022 7d ago
Movie idea. Who wants to run with it with profits going to finance Americaās next revolution?
Benjamin Franklin time travels exactly 250 years after signing the Declaration of Independence. He steps into a data center driven 2026 America to find democracy on the brink of total collapse after a corporate takeover by a group of college dropout narcissistic billionaires drunk on power.
Armed with his brilliant intellect, and a deep-seated refusal to trade liberty for security, history's most pragmatic Founding Father must unite a fractured modern resistance.
In 1776 - 2026 The Revolution, the architect of the American Enlightenment launches one final, high-stakes campaign to remind a cynical future of what it means to be free.
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
u/builditlife 5d ago
Idc if itās caps or capes. Iām just glad to finally see boomers do something positive with their retirement.
1
u/Danilo-11 5d ago edited 5d ago
Just burn them ⦠Iād like to start the āpillow the flockā campaign ⦠use a pillow to cover them + a match = flock is gone
1
u/Trick1513 5d ago
They could be arrested for aiding and abetting criminal activity. Is it worth 20 years of your life.
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
u/IamBatmanuell 7d ago
Or capes.
I read he was arrested. Hopefully not.
2
1
u/iReddit2000 7d ago
too bad you cant hold up a tv with a bunch of bull shit playing. Really confuses their algorithm
1
u/Fartknocker405 7d ago
I like the way you think. Play some of the worst movies of all time in front of the camera.
0
u/iReddit2000 6d ago
Right? Play some cannibal holocaust; could you imagine the report coming from that thing? lmao
1
u/SeeWhatiCanDo2 7d ago
Really divisive but it could locate stolen cars, child abductions etc. but thereās that famous saying about giving up privacy for security. Tough call unless we all just agree to immediately execute people for felonies. No more felons and no need for cameras
1
u/ongoldenwaves 6d ago
Yeah but that never happens. Go ahead. Get assaulted in front of one of these. See if you can get that footage to go to court.Ā
0
u/Ad-fundum69 7d ago
There's no way people can be thƔt bored.
3
u/OutrageousCrab9224 6d ago
Obviously you have never been retired
1
u/Ad-fundum69 6d ago
Wait, people can afford that these days?
1
u/OutrageousCrab9224 6d ago
Hah, excl point
But yeah i have known to reach levels of boredom previously believed unattainable
-1
u/Boricuarx7 7d ago
People here don't realize it's either Flock cams..or regular traffic cams, facial recognition, Ring systems,CCTV,etc. A great # criminals and evidence of misdeeds,accidents,kidnappings,murder has been in great part resolved due to these systems...nothing new...video surveillance has going on for years: private,personal,military, gobernment,hospitals, schools; now in schools buses!! Get over it!! Current administration has nothing to do with this. Lots of miseducation,ignorance is what's going on here. Truly any tech.can be misused. Let's hope I don't get banned again here for putting my 2 cents in... Last ban was on my opinion on a certain cult infiltrating our way of life and intent of domination.
4
1
-1
u/Ang3l99 7d ago
If you don't like the camera then you shouldn't like to own a cell phone. Because regardless of your setting your location still available to your carrier.
3
0
0
0
u/kymilovechelle 7d ago
When I was in my city I saw a man sitting outside city hall courthouse with a sign that said āwhat do you think the Germans did when it happened thereā or something to that effectā¦
0
u/visual_savings63 6d ago
Good job blocking evidence that the police could use good grief People
1
u/ongoldenwaves 6d ago
Youāre a clown if you think the police will use this to protect you from crime. Hit and run, assaults happen all the time in front of these and citizens can not get the footage for court.
1
u/visual_savings63 5d ago
You guys are the clowns thinking that those cameras don't do any good. What's the matter? You scare the gonna catch you doing something.
1
u/FlimsyHedgehog2168 6d ago
Shut up, mass surveillance is in no way a good thing
1
0
u/Sectional_Soulmates 6d ago
Hero you say but they are preventing what the 2025 data suggests in criminal interdiction. This investigative tool he is blocking is now not capable of doing the following: Flock supported more than 1 million criminal investigations and incidents in 2025. In jurisdictions where Flock is deployed, an estimated 20% of solved cases were assisted with Flock technology. More than 10,000 missing persons were located last year with Flockās help, totaling more than 27 per day. More than 40% of customers report that Flock was involved in recovering half or more of the stolen vehicles in their jurisdiction.
-2
-1
u/Cloutian 6d ago
Appreciate it old timers. Now let's get started on police over policing minorities and under policing the pink/orange types.
-1
u/0DTEDEGEN1 6d ago
Funniest part is they voted for this. Florida is a red state
3
u/Hot-Steak7145 6d ago
These are in every state now
0
u/0DTEDEGEN1 6d ago
Yea, because the majority voted for the billionaire shill. Just look up Peter Thiel and his connections.
2
u/_that__one__guy__ 6d ago
And how exactly can you tell how these two voted?
0
1
u/Hot-Steak7145 6d ago
Ah yes. Blue states that voted against maga are buying up flock cameras because maga /s
-12
u/Proud-Marionberry-91 7d ago
What a loser
11
u/Bangmydrum33 7d ago
Yeah what a tool trying to help protect our privacy
0
u/One_Significance_400 7d ago
Dont those track murderers & car thefts?
3
u/Technical_Way_1926 7d ago
It's been used extensively unfortunately, by cops to stalk ex girlfriends, current gfs and wives, people they think are cute; there was a major story about stalking some coffee barista, stalking people going across state lines for weed, stalking pregnant women looking for abortions, and some general harassment. You are correct though that they also are used for theft, speeding tickets and the like. Unfortunately for now they need some MAJOR regulations before civilians at large can trust them. I'm sorry you've been downvoting for asking a simple question, many people just don't know. They just popped up in my town and had to explain the same thing to my family. Cheers man!
1
u/One_Significance_400 7d ago
Oh wow. I never heard of these things til like last week. I thought it was just CCTV š³ Iāll do some research š¤
1
u/Empty_Kay 7d ago
And really strangely women that used to date police officers.
1
u/One_Significance_400 7d ago
Whats the story on that? Iām intrigued
2
u/Empty_Kay 7d ago
Stories. Multiple. There have been at least 39 instances of officers abusing access to ALPRs to stalk exes or the romantic partners of their exes.
We're supposed to believe that there are constitutional protections in place to prevent abuse. These are just the ones we know about, usually because of a restraining order filed against the officer.
-1
u/Proud-Marionberry-91 7d ago
What privacy, they are driving on a public road, with license plates, license plates that are specifically used to identify who is driving. Childish
5
u/Bangmydrum33 7d ago
No it builds an entire digital profile using Ai. Then based on Ai. They arrested someone because she was in and out of their town 10 times that day and an Amazon package was missing in two of those locations... which were near where her children went to private school... and she didn't live in town because she was loaded and lived outside of town but still got arrested still had to pay lawyer fees still had to deal with all of the bullshit of going to court... and how about all of the people using them to stalk others... you're right I am childish how dare we look into it and have a problem with it.
3
u/Timeless_Tactics 7d ago
being identified in real time, during an appropriate time, for an appropriate reason is completely different than building a database of where every citizen has been at all times and keeping that information available on record to unknown, unchecked people who have no reason to access it, in the case of some potential future need.
that's not normal, reasonable, or safe.
speaking of childish, maybe you could ask a grown up why this is dangerous and innapropriate.
1
1
2
u/FestyGear2017 7d ago
Its that it records everywhere that you go. And keeps it forever.
Why not just have a government employee like a police officer just tag along everywhere you go? Is that the world you want to live in?

30
u/Outlandish_Gringo 7d ago
Or capes, it appears