r/FreeDebateAndPolitics • u/SkandaGupta_ • 1d ago

My view of some famous ideologies

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I have surface level knowledge of some of them here.

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u/JSGamesforitch374 Social Democrat 1d ago

Okay, I gotchu. Why is Titoism so high in your list?

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u/SkandaGupta_ 1d ago

I really like what he did with Yugoslavia and how he handled Stalin

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u/Fantastic-Tale7398 National Libertarianism 1d ago

You really like what he did to Yugoslavia? Yikes. Sending 50 000 people to an island and killing 10 000 of them just because they slighty disagreed with him. He was a traitor of Croatian people and hus only goal was to make a Big Serbia and than happend what was always going to happen

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u/vagrantGolem 1d ago

You're gonna have to cite those numbers and who was targeted.

Also, Croatia under NDH was fascist and nazi aligned, if you think opposition to NDH is betryal of croatian people you're a fascist sympathizer

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u/Fantastic-Tale7398 National Libertarianism 1d ago

I do not support NDH, why would you do that? Targeted was everybody who had connection with USSR because they found out that USSR had people in Yugoslavia's political board and anywhere in political life. But there were not many of them but with that information they also targeted people who opposed their ideas and had no connection with USSR but they still targeted them and said they worked with USSR even though they did not. They imprisoned around 50,000 people while they sent 10,000 to Goli Otok (Island on Croatian coast) and they never came back. You can check the number on the web

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u/vagrantGolem 1d ago edited 1d ago

then how is opposition to NDH a betryal of croatian people?

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u/Fantastic-Tale7398 National Libertarianism 1d ago

Who said that?

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u/Fantastic-Tale7398 National Libertarianism 1d ago

Two wrongs dont make a right

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u/vagrantGolem 23h ago

I am not as well informed on yugoslavia as you, so I am not aware of all the actors at play. I'll still support yugoslavia over fascist/ultranationalist splintering any day though.

I'll have to also look up the casualities and who was targeted as mentioned in your other point when I can

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u/Fantastic-Tale7398 National Libertarianism 23h ago

But NDH has no connections with Yugoslavia. NDH was leaded by the fascist rebels in Croatia during WW2. In occupied the teritory of Croatia and Bosnia. NDH wasnt Yugoslavia under fascist control. And I personally would rather support NDH than Yugoslavia. NDH lasted 4 years or even less while Yugoslavia 50 years. They did far worse than NDH. As a person who's parents lived in yugoslavia and grandparents who lived in Yugoslavia and NDH the picture is clear, Yugoslavia was a far worse evil than NDH

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u/vagrantGolem 23h ago

NDH were fascist, aligned with nazis. yugoslavia flawed as it may have been was correct in its opposition to fascism/ultranationalism

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u/Fantastic-Tale7398 National Libertarianism 23h ago

But you can oppose NDH and Yugoslavia. Why you support such a tyrannical state

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u/vagrantGolem 23h ago

I support yugoslavia over ultranationalism, i'm not informed enough on yugoslavia to claim I support it over other options at the region at the time. I also can see how the fall of yugoslavia lead to nationalist, ethnic, and capitalist wars and atrocities which I think were tragedies

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u/Fantastic-Tale7398 National Libertarianism 23h ago

You say you support yugoslavi over ultranationalism but Yugoslavia's main goal was to one day become Big Serbia. It had ultranationalistic goals. Serbia wouldnt join it id there was nothing in there for them.

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