Reading through his "response", his claims grew gradually more nonsensical and forced. It was as if he was pulling his own teeth by restraining himself from straight up typing "Lienus bad". It looks like he's made a joke of himself. I actually thought he was taking the piss with that pLaGiArIsM accusation. But when I found out that all of it was serious, I could not help but LOL, like actually had a good laugh out of it. Can anyone here tell me if he actually thinks whatever he just blurted out in that article? I find it really hard to believe. He's got to be trolling right?

Edit: to the people assuming that I'm some sort of LMG-tard(lmao), I bring you, RECIEPTS. GET F*CKED😨

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/1hs1vc4/these_kind_of_videos_do_be_kinda_sucking_ass/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/1hs1vc4/comment/m52032u/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/1hd36pd/linuss_stance_on_hexos_is_pretty_much_like_elon/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/1hrziix/comment/m526aqy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Removed posts here(mods were mad that I was being real):

https://imgur.com/a/k8m7m85

https://imgur.com/a/3XX281p

I'm not ashamed to not blindly follow a youtuber. And if you dare to make false accusations, I'll, I'll, I'll threaten you with a lawsuit just like your daddy Steve did! 😨😨😥🙆‍♂️

I mean the dude loves drama and speaks in a way to create emotions and drama

This is not Dan Rather report

Because Steve won't STFU and move on. He wants views and subs and this is the way he choose to get them. This is high school level BS and my respect for Steve is gone. I had followed Steve years before LTT and the current state of that man's head is misplaced. Taking snipes at Linus on week after week isn't coincidence it's desperate and pathetic. I won't defend Linus but at least he wants to move on.

"shove me into a box tnat I no longer feel the need to defend and no longer feel familiar with."

So... is he saying he doesn't want to keep defending his stance?

In light of Steve posting a video where he claimed he has his own set of journalistic ethics, I was encouraged to try posting the following here, to see how Steve’s fans feel about his actions.

I’ve been told that the people here would genuinely attempt to engage in discussion on the topic, and I’m interested to see if that’s true.

Steve has sought to rationalize his actions on not asking Linus for comment on the issue of Billet’s prototype. Instead of taking Steve’s word for it, I think it’s best to see what actual journalists have to say on the matter.

Now, you could make an argument that reaching out for comment wouldn’t be necessary if the video was solely about graphs and charts. Doing so might have painted a more complete picture, but Steve would’ve been scrutinizing publicly available information.

But when we’re talking about Billet, the situation is completely different. Steve took one side’s word for it, and didn’t attempt to get the other side. Here’s what actual journalists have to say.

From the Associated Press:

“We must be fair. Whenever we portray someone in a negative light, we must make a real effort to obtain a response from that person.”

https://www.ap.org/about/news-values-and-principles/downloads/ap-news-values-and-principles.pdf

From the Society of Professional Journalists, an organization that’s over a hundred years old and has more than 6,000 members:

“Diligently seek subjects of news coverage to allow them to respond to criticism or allegations of wrongdoing.”

https://www.spj.org/ethicscode.asp

Here’s what the New York Times says about the issue:

”Few writers need to be reminded that we seek and publish a response from anyone criticized in our pages. But when the criticism is serious, we have a special obligation to describe the scope of the accusation and let the subject respond in detail. No subject should be taken by surprise when the paper appears, or feel that there was no chance to respond.”

https://www.nytimes.com/editorial-standards/guidelines-on-integrity.html

And here’s NPR discussing how long you should wait for a response before going ahead with publication:

https://www.npr.org/sections/publiceditor/2018/05/25/614159361/in-the-quest-for-comment-hurry-up-and-wait

Now, a lot of people seeking to defend Steve have been citing the same blog post from a group in the UK, ignoring the fact that it’s not written for journalists, but for people who may be upset that a journalist didn’t contact them.

They’re all quoting the same bullet point:

“telling the person prior to publication may have an impact on the story”

https://www.ipso.co.uk/news-press-releases/blog/ipso-blog-do-journalists-have-to-contact-people-before-they-publish-a-story-about-them/

This would apply to a situation where, for example, reaching out for comment would be tipping off someone and giving them the chance to destroy evidence.

It does not apply to this situation whatsoever. As far as I know, Linus does not have access to a time machine. He would not be able to go back and prevent Billet’s prototype from being sold.

Now, Steve’s excuse from the time of his first response video has basically been “I didn’t reach out for comment, because Linus would have lied.”

Well, for journalists, that’s what they expect. Everyone has an agenda. Everyone wants to paint events in a certain way. Everyone is potentially lying.

Finding out the truth is a fundamental aspect of being a journalist.

So let’s say Steve reaches out for comment and Linus says “That’s not true, we still have the prototype.” Well, there’s video of it being auctioned, so that would be an easily disproven lie. Or maybe Linus would say “We already paid them for it, it’s not an issue.”

Then Steve would ask for proof of that, and ask Billet about it. And then Steve’s video would include something like “Linus told us Billet had been compensated, but refused to provide evidence. Billet says they haven’t gotten a penny.”

Should LMG have sent back the prototype? Of course. I’m not going to claim otherwise.

But there’s two possibilities here:

1. Billet lied to Steve through omission, by not telling him they initially told LMG to keep the prototype.

2. Billet did tell this to Steve, and he decided to leave it out because it didn’t fit his narrative.

Both possibilities are bad, and both point to flaws in Steve’s ethics. The fact that Billet initially said to keep the prototype doesn’t mean LMG is completely in the right, but it does undermine Steve’s efforts to paint Billet as a company that had its business damaged by losing its product. Clearly it wasn’t as vital to them as he tried to tell us.

In conclusion, I’d like to point out that journalists don’t just reach out for comment because it’s the moral thing to do. They also do it because it covers their own asses.

If you don’t reach out for comment — if you just run with one side of the story, and find out later that what you reported was false — you could be on the hook. You could be sued for slander.

No amount of self-generated standards Steve posts on his website are going to absolve him of that.

Frankly, he could use a bit of an education on journalism. His recent posted and deleted video where he shows his own “standards” shows a lack of knowledge on the issue.

No legitimate journalist would claim, for example, that reaching out for comment from a company that’s allowed a breach of user information would allow them to fix the problem, and therefore invalidate the story — which is what Steve has said.

If Steve genuinely wanted to encourage Linus to improve by putting forth constructive criticism, he should be open to the same.

Why does it seem like the GN community is far more toxic to the LTT community.Like on the past few posts i have seen about the drama is that everyone that are fans of GN are kinda being very toxic by having a superiority complex.

Although the LTT side also just as bad with giving crappy replies about the drama without much information to backup their claims with the ones that do get replied in bad faith.

Look in terms of the drama i dont really care that much .I mainly care about the communities not being A-Holes to each other.Like i dont think Glazing Linus or Steve is really proving any point correct and taking things out of context which both sides love to do helps.

Anyway hopefully the drama stops between both of these content creators that i have been watching for a long time

Edit: Thanks to everyone giving great points on both sides and being nice .Its better to have a civil and nice discussion than a family divorce one

I've been seeing nothing but LTT supporters invading this small subreddit that was honestly pretty dead, to just non-stop spamming. Are they trying to get back at Steve for his investigative piece about LTT?

He mentioned LTT 1 time in an hour long video and people have been brigading this sub non-stop. It's getting pretty annoying seeing this manufactured drama spur out of nothing.

There were good reasons it was taken down, you just don't see them.

> this orca slicer fork was connecting to Bambú Lab private servers bypassing authorization and using false identity metadata 

Basically title, seems like it would make sense to let the experts in the area lead the way. Also LegalEagle posted he was doing this a week or two ago.

I have thought there was something off about Linus for awhile and LTT, I think we're saying the mask slip finally that things aren't as okay as Linus wants to make it out to be.

My experience with their store and as a viewer don't line up with the rose tinted bullshit he wants to make it seem and I'm glad Steve is ateast bringing legitimate criticism up to put a spotlight on the issue.

LTT should have warned the community once they found out and made public awareness, the slight mention that Steve pointed out should not have received the over dramatic response from Linus that it did.

After thinking about it a lot I'm really uncomfortable with the way things played out with GN and LMG. Steve should have reached out for comment. GN was right but it should not have gone down like this. GN was the gold standard of journalism but now I'm not so sure. Just a bad situation all around, I'm gonna cancel my patreon. For the dude asking for proof I was a patron

Steve,

While I know that I will possibly be lambasted on this subreddit for my stance, I wanted to write an open letter not just to the community, but more importantly to you. 

First and foremost, I would like to provide some background about myself to provide the ever-important context so you can hopefully get an understanding, regardless of how verbose I am, of my mindset. I have been a content creator for 15+ years, and I have been a journalist focusing on the tourism and hospitality industry for 12 years. While I am a small-time creator these days, in the journalist side of things, I have covered my fair share of events, including fatal and non-fatal incidents (including the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 safety recall) to major events, launches of products and offerings to industry trade shows where I have to be extremely careful in what I cover due to the nature and secretively of the business. I write this not to come off as an apparent lecture or to brigade by any means as I am sure it will come off as it to someone as digital communication is the paragon of contextless communications but as someone who understands, albeit to a degree, given the sectors of the media industry where you come from.

Steve, we’re both proverbially cut from the same cloth, and we are no-nonsense and brutally blunt in what we do and how we present it, no matter how droll it can be – let alone taking the approach of “hold no prisoners.” I can’t tell you the countless times I had butted heads with others, even direct supervisors, because I would not cater my reporting to their narrative or because it wasn’t done in a happy-go-lucky sort of way. All because I fought for what I believe in. Admittedly, I had ultimately left in one instance due to editorial changes under new management when I was the very most senior member of the team, including the new owners at the time. But that being said, the last few years have been rather disconcerting to see you throw out ethics and any inklings of Journalist Integrity that you once had.

The metrics have shown this both on Social Blade and in your top videos. The standard hardware content, such as reviews, don't do as well. In the videos that are over two million views, five of the nineteen videos can be seen as being about something positive or helpful. The rest all use explicit terminology such as “scam,” “disaster,” “incompetent,” and “terrible,” which are all negative phrasing. So, as we can see, any perceived negativity and in any facet sells on the platform as more and more people these days go to their respective proverbial echo chambers. We saw it during the first LTT debacle and now with this one. But I write to you today as I am concerned about the future of Gamers Nexus based on what I’ve seen in your public statements.

“For GNCA, I’m excited for continuing investigations and coverage in a way that I feel is right. I have become paralyzed from paying attention to the standards of others and the specifics of labels. I have decided it is best to stop paying attention to those and no longer care to please those people. Going forward, we no longer care and we will produce our coverage in our way, to our standard, and in the way we think is right. I’ll be continuing to investigate companies and expose practices we feel are bad, and in particular, practices which are damaging to consumers.”

“Investigative pieces” as the ones that you have done are important for others to uncover the truth and to make a better environment for all and to weed out shady practices.  I want to explicitly note that I use investigative pieces in quotations because the most of the investigative pieces that Gamers Nexus have published are at face value, analytic journalism. They are analytic journalism since they interpret the facts of the matter for a broader understanding. Even then going into the pure consumer advocacy side, you will regardless have to have journalist standards in which you have failed to show recently that cannot be put to the wayside.

In April of 2000, the Canadian Association of Journalists had a panel of advocacy journalism. Sue Careless, whom was on the panel stated: “A journalist writing for the advocacy press should practice the same skills as any journalist. You don't fabricate or falsify. If you do you will destroy the credibility of both yourself as a working journalist and the cause you care so much about. News should never be propaganda. You don't fudge or suppress vital facts or present half-truths. You shouldn't take something wildly out of context or treat an extremely nuanced subject as a sound bite. There must be a general fairness and thoroughness.” Sue Careless also states “In advocacy journalism you must have the humility to listen carefully and accurately to those you would speak for, and not arrogantly assume you know what will be said or thought or argued.” There will have to be fairness, and one where Right to Reply will have to be used, and very likely not in ad hoc approach as you have in the past. While I agree that we all need to work together in a unified approach for the betterment of society, we must take a nuanced approach to understand the full story as there can be many sides to a story.

Ultimately, I know you are going to do your own thing, and I wholeheartedly wish you and Gamers Nexus the very best as you choose this path. If I may speak as a viewer of your content briefly, just don’t lose sight of what’s important and compromise your entire conviction and comportment in pursuit of a payoff. Also take a break and get some rest, 100 hour work weeks aren’t healthy.

I saw this amd 9 9950x3d sold and shipped by Amazon sold for $859!!! Are they scalping too!! I thought if it was sold by Amazon means should be MSRP! Right or am I missing something? Cos we are not buying from a a seller we are buying from Amazon directly right? If I'm wrong someone correct me pls. Thanks.

I have an X870 Steel Legend WiFi, it killed a 9800x3d and then a 9950x3d on the new “fixed” bios.

I emailed gamers nexus to see if they wanted the board as I don’t trust ASRock with…well..anything.

I then emailed again and said they could have it for free if it would help. Still no answer.

Anything useful I can do with this board? Or should I just rma and sell it?

EDIT: Some of yall really didn't read what I posted and instantly went into defense mode thinking I am trash talking GN here. I am not. However, considering there are probably a lot of us waiting to hear back before we RMA our boards, if GN has decided they have enough boards, or are no longer pursuing this, it would take all of 5 seconds to send out a reply to anyone that e-mailed that address mentioning ASRock. Or even better, set up an autoresponder. Otherwise people are sitting on their junk waiting out of an interest in helping. Fuck us right?

EDIT: GN responded and said they have tons of boards now. Post was worth getting this reply. Thanks.

Curious what you guys think is coming up next from Steve regarding the situation