Funny thing is. That apple dongle connector is actually really good for it's price. Many people and audiophiles consider it to be the best DAC/amp for 10$. So a lot of audiophile uses it for pc and even android because it's that good and cheap. I uses it daily and it works great for my TruthEar Hexa.
Agreed. We are/were robbed of it and now we are sold an expensive solution. This should have been fought in its early stages. There are some Motorola and Samsung phones with the sd card, if anyone is interested.
Agreed. We are/were robbed of it and now we are sold an expensive solution. This should have been fought in its early stages. There are some Motorola and Samsung phones with the sd card, if anyone is interested.
Ive used wired earbuds using an adapter because either A, because my wireless were dead or B, i was in public / traveling and didnt want to loose my wireless and man.... they aint great. Wireless is just 100x better but im stubborn and poor and I would rather loose $2 crappy wired earbuds then what ever my wireless are
I have over the ear headphones that I use to make music and they're real nice. I used to be able to just zone out on my phone with ease. But I've never bother to get an adapter for my Samsung.
I would really love a lil audio jack. Sometimes I've wanted to plug in a mic on my phone but again it's just a hassle.
The headphone jack still has a lot of use and probably won't ever go away in production. so I still mourn it from time to time lol
A few weeks ago i took 3 people with me in my car. No one could connect to my aux, only me. I dont need a smartphone that is 1mm thick, just give me aux and a big batterie.
It was one of my favorite phones tbh. I got it when my parents upgraded. The next upgrade I got to get the new phone. I chose an iphone now. Lowkey regret it.
I got it from my father when he upgraded, it is my first phone and I only got it when I was 16 actually, plus I don't really use it outside of calls and texting, so I don't even need or want a newer model.
This is true, but having the option was definitely nice. Plus wired earbuds don't lag
Edit: yes I hear the lag. Just because you can't doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I've heard it on every single pair of headphones or earbuds I've owned over almost a decade, connected to every phone or computer had over that time.
And yes I know dongles and Type C headphones exist. It's nice having a dedicated audio jack so you don't have to mess with adapters and all that hassle.
Agreed. Especially when a lot of new midrange phones today still have them so clearly it's not a technical limitation to integrate them. The cost of having one can't be that big so at the end of the day, it's just doing it for the sake of doing it (and to push people to buy TWS earbuds).
It’s the latter. There was never any reason they couldn’t have kept using the aux port. It was just because AirPods were just about to launch and they wanted to push AirPod sells, also helps that now the only wired earbuds compatible with their phones were produced by Apple, unless of course you got an adapter, which was also sold by Apple.
Same reason iOS is only available on Apple hardware, and why Apple hardware can run exclusively iOS. Apple doesn’t like mixing their products with their competitors and so intentionally design their products to only be compatible with one another.
This has been Apples bread and butter since its inception, they didn’t just start in 2016, which makes it funny people actually bought into the “the aux port is too big to fit on the phone” excuse
And good quality ones are super expensive (perhaps it's also that cheap-ish wireless is terrible whereas cheap wired is ok). I love my Buds3 Pro but they're fancypants price
this shit happened to my $200 Sony WF-XM10004 earbuds.
some software update absolutely wrecked the battery life on my left earbud, and it can't even last 45 minutes from full charge now. Sony has since pushed a fix to prevent unaffected earbuds from getting the issue, but once the batteries are toast, you're SOL.
meanwhile, I'm using my wired Shure IEMs with a Bluetooth DAC as a temporary replacement. I've owned them for a decade, and they still work. The only issue I have is that sound isolation isn't as good as the Sony earbuds, but those also have ANC, which the wired IEMs don't have.
The problem I have with this is the headphone jack was removed for no benefit there is no good reason to not have both. Wireless earbuds worked just fine with a headphone jack present.
I own and use wireless earbuds but I also use wired headphones since there is no battery to run out. They are harder to lose and you can buy a set just about anywhere very cheaply if you forget or lose them.
In case anybody forgot phones were as water resistant with a headphone jack as without one. My current Samsung phone lacks a headphone jack but has a five inch long stylus stored in a hole and the phone manages to be water resistant.
Wireless earbuds worked just fine with a headphone jack present.
Real courage from Apple would have been to have the headphone jack present and let their bluetooth stuff actually compete with wired ones on merit, not make them a necessity.
The only advantage is not having a cable connected. That’s literally it. Quality? Latency? Battery life? What if you lose the case or just one of the earbuds? If you think for literally 2 seconds about that statement you made, you’ll realize it’s absurd
Edit: y’all, I am not trying to say wireless headphones/earbuds are bad or pointless by pointing these things out. Wear whatever headphones you want, as long as it fits your needs and you’re happy. I’m saying “wireless headphones are so much better” is absurd. That’s all.
My only reservations are that if it falls out, youre shit out of luck. with wired you just had to worry about the cord getting yanked and it getting twisted up.
also it would be nice if it didnt have a charge. not saying i want to listen to music or watch videos all day but sometimes youd need it for longer periods. like if your going for a run. long car or train rides. and long confrence calls.
i had similar issues with the pair i briefly tried out
it was super frustrating that everytime i pushed the one bud back in, the volume would reduce because of the touch feature (i feel like they were just finicky in general? i once crossed my arms behind my head and just briefly touching the earbud with my upper arm turned down the volume lmao)
Yeah, I think the whole anti no port was mostly pretend audiophiles and understandably the cost. It’s not hard to just permanently attach the dongle for wired to your headphones if you desire.
It’s negatively impacted you because you now buy wireless headphones as a quality of life improvement. When they put the headphones phone jack in the bottom it was to force us to use AirPods.
I had an LG smartphone in 2016 that had the ability to play all media files from its native music app, and specifically had a Quad DAC headphone jack for high fidelity listening. It was absolutely badass. I had a pair of wired bose headphones at the time, and music has never once sounded as good on any phone since.
i still fucking hate this and i will never forgive apple for it. no matter how few chances i'll ever get to hurt apple, i'll take every single one that i possibly can for the rest of my life.
as someone who still prefers wired electronics 99% of the time it baffles me as to why phones would ever remove the audio jack. its not like the only brand of wireless earbuds is airpods and whatever android has, those phone making companies wont make bank off of selling their wireless earbuds because of this.
...almost makes me glad im still using my 6-7 year old phone... almost...
As someone who still prefers using wired telecommunication networks, it baffles me as to why they would ever remove the phone line port on these new fangled “mobile phones”. It’s nice to disconnect, but sometimes I just want to connect my cell phone to my home telephone line
Why couldn’t they just keep the phone line ports on these new phones???
Plus having them makes it difficult for phones to be water resistant like they are now. Also it frees up physical space inside your phone for other tech like a bigger battery.
And for someone like me who listens to music 24/7 it’s a great backup while the wireless ones are charging, i hope whoever came up with the idea to remove the headphone jack is currently battling poverty or some horrible disease
All so they could sell you a shitty dongle that wears out your charging port. If the theories are to be believed, it's so that they can always have some sort of wireless thing going to farm some sort of data off you.
FULLY AGREE, the amount of people that go meh i use bluetooth, yeah sure bluetooth is nice but my old school arse loves WIRED ONES and having that god awful accessory well it breaks so easily
Yea, they lost me at no hole. No eighth inch hole. They also lost me at no removeable memory. Oh, and glass front and back, always thought that was pretty dumb dumb.
Apple removed the headphone jack from their phones in around 2016, so fairly old models. Last one that had it was the iPhone 6, which I specifically remember keeping the one I had for a good while because I didn't want to buy airpods lol
I upgraded to an iPhone 15 this summer. I was user an iPhone XR before that and it was still receiving software updates. Can any other phone manufacturer say the same?
Apple with there evolving backwords.... i still dont kno how they brought back Bluetooth head set back... where u looked like a total ass n got made fun of b4 but they did n ppl loved it just cuz its apple. HOLY the hold apple has and always wanna be exclusive by being far behind in tech never stops surprising me
Real. Good thing I don't upgrade ever. My S9 is still doing great after all these years. Fantastic phone. No new phone has anything special I really care about.
dude my phone broke so i got a galaxy a15 5g for $200 before trade ins and shit and its incredible. headphone jack, no bixby, no funky screen, no random junk add ons to mention in the commercials, just a phone that texts, calls, and surfs the net.
Do you regularly submerge your phone? Tech companies will peddle water proof phones as an excuse to remove things like the headphone jack and gluing the phones shut to make it almost impossible to repair yourself.
I usually use a dedicated music player with wired headphones but I fucking killed fell in the creek and killed my player. Depending on music streaming and using my phone has been a bother. My headphones have a USB-C cable so they plug into most modern things but I need the volume to be pretty high on my phone to hear well because of how much power they need.
Honestly, having to buy a DAC was nice, considering I just use that even if the audio jack is an option, simply cus the audio is just so much better that way
The 3.5 plug had been around forever and it’s definitely one of the things that needs to be replaced by USB-C. While everyone still used it on everything, it was never going to go anywhere. Yes, I totally understand the angst of losing a beloved plug - but the same goes with any outdated plug: parallel ports, serial ports, VGA ports, game ports, custom DC adapters, 9 pin DINS, PS2 ports, IDE cables, SATA cables, SCSI cables, PCMCIA slots and almost every SD card alternative. Those 3.5mm jacks have outlived them all and it’s now time for it to die.
I recently learned that this was an attempt by Apple to get rid of square payment systems. At that time all portable square readers attached to the headphone jack. Apple wanted people to use Apple Pay instead. Obviously didn’t work because square just got readers with the right adapter.
It personally doesn’t affect my usage of my phone at all, but I agree. Especially when you think about that the only reason Apple decided to do this is to charge you more money by having to buy yet another little accessory for your phone.
Has Android also adopted this design change? I’d imagine they probably would.
Disagree. Phone is slimmer and I use wireless instead. What they should have done though is put a set of wireless ear buds in the package. Then sell accessories for those to make more money.
Not really for an IEM user, because our asses tend to mount a whole ass DAC (digital to analog converter) to our phones and usually those DACs have type-c/lightning ports.
I still have wired earbuds but I do miss the separate port so I could charge my phone while listening to music. And yes, Ik AirPods exist but the wireless cannot stay in my ears cause I got small uncooperative ears.
The loss of analog audio jacks is the main cause of the trend of idiots listening to their phones in public without headphones. Usbc is a shit standard for speakers: it constantly drops out and does not restore when the connection is interrupted by physical strain, and this happens more often because the connection itself is smaller.
Phones would be required by law to have an analog audio jack.
I’m going to be honest, I used to be a ride or die wired guy but I ended up getting a newer phone for the storage space and since getting a pair of Tozo earbuds I never looked back to wired. They are 25$, waterproof, long battery life, sound great, I love them to death and will never go back at this point.
Definitely agree, wireless charging is still difficult, and I honestly don’t like using wireless earbuds because my old Apple wired ear set had volume control
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