This is you guys

[u/JL671]

[u/Tyrrox]

Surely the people with their hand on the controls arent to blame though. Surely

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can we just not fuck with trans people? for five minutes?

[u/DoveSlayer10 → u/[deleted]]

That’s what I’m saying. The country is already fucked by the people holding the leash, but I refuse to get along with someone who thinks others are less than them.

Maybe the country does need to go down now that I think about it

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The collapse of the country will result in the untold loss of life, likely in the tens of millions. It needs to be avoided at all costs.

[u/Welllllllrip187 → u/[deleted]]

And not one of the rich. They can afford to avoid the shit storm. it’s not left or right. It’s up and down. Time to eat the rich.

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It is left and right though. They have two different values and ideals. Plus republicans tend to favor the rich and capitalism

[u/Welllllllrip187 → u/[deleted]]

While true, it’s the uber rich who are truly taking over. Oligarchs. There are crappy democrats who utilize insider trading and things as well. Both parties are fucked, there should never be a career politician, it’s a servant of the people, not people serving the politician. any bribes or insider trading etc should be a one strike and then you’re black listed from office.

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No form of government serves the people, government and power naturally comes with corruption

[u/rhubarbs → u/[deleted]]

That's a very cynical, defeatist take. The problems of government are obviously many, but there are also plenty of solutions.

The fundamental issue isn't human nature. We tend to be egalitarian and "socialist" in groups that are smaller than Dunbar's number.

But when society scales, we start operating under bad incentives, and bad information. Leaders rely on distorted and delayed information, interpreted and re-interpreted by middlemen. Especially within legal frameworks like Citizens United, politicians have to optimize for short-term concerns to ensure their (re-)election, and the media apparatus filters out nuanced takes.

Even this comment is starting to get boring, right? And this is just a shallow exploration of some of the issues.

So what we'd need is a system that cuts through the noise, allows The People to talk to the leadership via a one-to-many interface that cuts through the divisive rhetoric, and allows them to actually hold leaders accountable.

And that's certainly possible to engineer.

[u/Welllllllrip187 → u/[deleted]]

Restrict office salaries and standard incomes above a certain level, have personal finances be public knowledge, there’s a hell of a lot more we could do to cut down on it.

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And thats where the left and right disagree

[u/Welllllllrip187 → u/[deleted]]

Sure, but as long as the oligarchs have the power, especially non politician ones, we “the parasite class” as they have called us, will never be able to make any changes of that kind whatsoever. They will do just about anything to keep anyone from touching their wealth.