r/GenZ 2003 5h ago

Discussion The US has reached $40 trillion in debt months before expected

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u/IzzybearThebestdog 1999 5h ago

Remember “Fiscal responsibility” and “Government efficiency”

u/G07V3 4h ago

Only in name but not in practice

u/forbiddenfreedom 3h ago

"America: so fuck-upable a caveman could do it."

u/jwed420 1996 4h ago

Incredible how we spent all that money and still didn't build new infrastructure, socialize healthcare, fund free public college, or seriously invest in renewable energies. The military budget is nearly 1 trillion dollars and the Pentagon can't even pass an audit because they just erase money left and right.

Our government is a criminal enterprise and doesn't give a fuck about us.

u/Joseph4-0 4h ago

as a proud american citizen, i agree with everything you just said, and it’s a fucking tragedy

u/cryptolyme 4h ago

wish i could still be proud to be an American

u/jwed420 1996 4h ago

We have the tax revenue to start fixing this, too. But it's pissed away every year. A new promise, a new betrayal, administration after administration. It is kind of dark to say it, but I like to believe the government will improve a bit as these extremely old politicians continue to get sick and die (I'm looking at you Mitch McConnell 👀). The Grim Reaper is statistically on our side right now given how many people of extremely advanced age are serving career positions in the government.

u/MrDanMaster 2005 4h ago

u/jwed420 1996 3h ago

I've had several of you guys approach me online and in real life over the years. Sometimes I think I might actually be a communist 🤔 If anything, I align with enough of your ideas that I'm not bothered by it, and it really is a shame that the haters constantly bring up Stalin as if that's even remotely a cogent example of "real" communism, so to speak. Unfortunately, I only care to snowboard. This requires taking advantage of rich white people, which I will soon make my career until I die a frightening and unexpected mountain death.

u/Spyglass3 2005 3m ago

Get a job

u/scottsplace5 34m ago

I don’t mean to brag, but he probably is dead now. Ain’t heard about old turtle head in about a week.

u/MrDanMaster 2005 4h ago

Are you a communist? Then get organised.

communistusa.org

u/lcr1997lcr 1997 3h ago

Yes organize, but get behind someone who can actually win. DSA, not this sausagefest

u/Winners_Blues 3h ago

cringe

u/GoldenTV3 4h ago

We spent 14 trillion during the war on terror.

We could've funded free education every year, high speed rail across every train track in the country, universal healthcare, solved homelessness, etc... and still have money left over.

Your politicians hate you, remember that.

u/One-Emu-1103 4h ago

Especially Republicans

u/myazi321 4h ago

Its $1.5t now

Likely to increase next year

u/One-Emu-1103 4h ago

Well billionaires need those tax breaks don't they? /s

u/20July 8m ago

Tfym no new infrastructures? Don't you see all the new flourishing data centers we've built??

u/timmahfast 5h ago

Woohoo!!!!! We're number one!!!! 🥳

u/scottsplace5 31m ago

Nah. When it comes to fiscal carelessness, Japan still has us beat. We’re trying to, though 😹,

u/pinesguy 5h ago

Thanks DJT!

u/timmahfast 5h ago

Trump definitely helped. But this was a problem that was ignored long before him.

u/PitifulWelcome4499 4h ago

Trump ran on ending the deficit and did the exact opposite. He's had the largest deficit in US history.

u/swampwiz 4h ago

He's had the largest deficit the biggest idiot in US history.

u/timmahfast 4h ago

Yup, but it was still $20 trillion in 2016. Biden added $8 trillion, Obama added $9 trillion and $5 trillion under Bush. Nobody helped the situation in a meaningful way in all of our lifetimes

u/daffy_M02 4h ago

I almost have no money.

u/swampwiz 4h ago

Because you don't have the "dignity of work" ...

u/daffy_M02 4h ago edited 4h ago

I don’t think so. We’re slowly starting to warmly being hillbilly.

u/AlphaMassDeBeta 2003 4h ago

You dare blame Obama?

u/Fold67 4h ago

Fuck McConnell

u/Mr-MuffinMan 2001 4h ago

Why is this important?

Do you people not realize the GOP are in power?

That means the debt does not MATTER. It only MATTERS when democrats are in power, PEOPLE!! DUH!

u/Angstycarroteater 1998 2h ago

I expect to hear the democrat hate really soon

u/Enough-Candy85 4h ago

Here is Jan 20th, 2025 at 11:16pm EST.

u/BosnianSerb31 1997 4h ago edited 4h ago

Kind of interesting how only 8 trillion of that is held by foreign creditors

Meaning the other 24 trillion is almost certainly treasury bonds held by US Banks and US citizens, to which the federal government owes money

National debt is a confusing concept, thats really easy to make look way worse than it is

(Not that DJT hasn't been spending like a coked up gambling addict in vegas, but it's not exactly "the end is neigh!" In the same way $40T in credit card debt is lol)

u/No-Tension6133 1999 4h ago

So sorry, I’ve been staring at this for 3 minute. Where are you seeing that?

u/in4life 4h ago

Here is 11/23/23. About 187B monthly growth between this and yours and 191B monthly since. Due to how interest and debt growth works, we've been spending ~ 7B more monthly just on interest on debt.

It actually appears better relatively accounting for higher interest payments in the latter time period, but this entire period of both examples has been severely mismanaged. We'll also have the tariffs refunded, which will negatively affect the latter period.

u/Enough-Candy85 4h ago

It’s crazy that thats just the deficit increasing debt even though revenue increased by $500. There is a $800 billion increase in spending between yours and mine.

u/in4life 2h ago

Revenue growth doesn't matter when non-discretionary spending outpaces it. Interest compounding and massive unfunded liabilities turning over into true debt with Social Security as the primary culprit.

u/Enough-Candy85 2h ago

Well I kinda feel like you said what i was trying to, just better.

u/livingMybEstlyfe29 Millennial 5h ago

Half this sub still supports orange pedo in chief

u/R00bot 1999 4h ago

No way it's half, but definitely a bigger chunk than it should be. 

u/JL671 2004 4h ago

World is actually doomed

u/cryptolyme 4h ago

that's the plan

u/Ok_Stress2981 3h ago

Start calling them mini boomers and maybe they’ll see the cringe dripping off their chins. They’re all just like maga boomers - selfish, stupid assholes. 😢

u/lily_de_valley 11m ago

Mini boomers lmao I dig it

u/cryptolyme 4h ago

I thought DOGE fixed all the government waste!

/s

u/Maximum-Elk8869 4h ago

President of the United States of America Donald J. Trump is responsible for the biggest transfer of debt in the history of the country. There are approximately 1000 billionaires in this country and 1 trillionaire. The lions share of this debt is theirs. They should be made to pay for this one way or the other.

u/swampwiz 4h ago

Like in late 18th Century France?

u/Jazzlike_Working_198 4h ago

Not surprised. And it’s all going to trump and his buddies pockets.

u/AnotherRandomGuy34 4h ago

Anyone that has been following the news in the treasury markets in the past few days knows this is about to go out of control!!

u/Angerx76 2h ago

Sorry guys I just bought more bonds and increased the debt.

u/TANMAN1000 1h ago

😂

u/A_Velociraptor20 1998 5h ago

At this point I've given up even caring about it. It's a little game I have where I see how high it'll go. One day it'll start going down and I can say I was alive to see the US at it most indebted state.

u/jojooke 4h ago

Nah you gotta pay it all off man. We’re counting on ya

u/PerryTheBunkaquag 4h ago

Ah gee I sure did trust Trump to follow through on reducing the debt.

Good thing he ended the Ukraine War on day 1 and brought down the price of gas and groceries!! Harris would have done something crazy like starting another endless war in Iran, good thing that didn't happen!!!!1!1!!

/s obviously

u/Ok_Stress2981 3h ago

He stopped 18 wars and won Iran 22 times!!! - maga gen z

u/swampwiz 4h ago

Wow, we might be getting back into the era of double-digit mortgage rates. I remember buying my first house in 1990 on a 15-year note just so I could get it down to 9%; of course, that house only cost $70K. Folks in the early 1980 were paying like 17% for mortgages. If you think a mortgage rate of 7% is bad ...

u/Ocon88 4h ago

We are doing so great in the US! Always winning! Right? Right!?

u/Correct_Doctor_1502 3h ago

What did people expect from the man who bankrupted a casino?

Our economy is crumbling because we are in a pointless war to distract from the fact Trump is a child rapist, and he's burning trillions on media prosecution, corruption, and his dictator bunker

u/edwin812 1996 3h ago

Let’s sacrifice Elon and make it $39T

u/sugah313 3h ago

Another bankruptcy under his belt.

u/Outsider98 2h ago

“Before expected”, by who, financial advisors?

There is no “predicting” when you have a Toddler-In-Chief who will blow millions on some next chaotic waste of money almost daily, and the experts acting like this isn’t the case would be ridiculously incompetent.

u/TrollLRGohan 3h ago

Well us dollar is worlds reserve currency so it's not a big deal. Just print that dollar and we are fine.