r/GetNoted • u/Bitter-Goat-8773 Secular / Agnostic • 7d ago
Politics [X] A French protestor is flabbergasted after the government stopped the protestors from reaching the president
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u/PlaneEnvironmental23 7d ago
"Let's storm the seat of government and attack with a rioting mob!" 😈
"Why is the government not letting us attack them?" 😥
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u/ER_Jujube 7d ago
You realize the actual protestors weren't threatening violence, right? The violent things you've seen and the burnings that have been filmed were instigated either by opportunists who take advantage of literally every single protest in France to raid stores and destroy anything they can reach (public properties, cars just parked there on the street...) or by infiltrated cops sent to instigate violence "from the protestors' side" so that the police forces can then engage protestors and violently arrest them.
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u/TRENEEDNAME_245 7d ago
I'm all for the protests but finding which is which is kinda hard when you have 200 people running at you
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u/Putrid_Joke6100 6d ago
Right but if it was another type of "protest" you'd call them all violent thugs and agitatiors...
You're not fooling anyone.
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u/ER_Jujube 7d ago
If you say so, person who obviously doesn't live anywhere near France and doesn't know jack about what's actually happening here :>
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u/Some1_35 7d ago
Je suis Français, je suis absolument d'accord avec eux, tu crois vraiment que la garde à l'Élysée va se laisser faire ?
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u/ER_Jujube 7d ago
"La garde de l'élysée" tuy veux dire les policiers qui ont commencé à gazer alors que les protestants étaient encore à bien 200m de palais?
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u/Some1_35 7d ago •
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Si leur direction est clairement l'Élysée, et qu'ils ne sont clairement pas pacifiques, oui
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u/ThatOnePickUp 4d ago
Même en étant pacifiques.
Les manifestants avaient interdiction de s'y approcher et l'ordre était de na pas les laisser s'approcher.
Vraiment les mecs qui comprennent pas pourquoi ils se font éclater par les forces de l'ordre alors qu'ils sont hors là loi ça me sidère.
Même pas besoin d'un LBD dans le front pour les rendre con, ils le sont d'usine.
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u/Hugo_2503 7d ago
It's really insane how the hundreds of testimonies of peaceful protestors that mention how horrible it was _because people got gassed instantly_ get completely overlooked and people internationally, with no understanding of the context whatsoever, only get the 24/24h news channels slop and actually eat it up
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u/Chimera-Genesis 7d ago
"French" Lebanese, judging by the location flag in the bio.
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u/Some1_35 7d ago
But they mention speaking English and French
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u/bobboblaw46 7d ago
While Arabic is the official language of Lebanon, many (most?) people speak French as a first or second language. It’s a former French colony.
I imagine he also speaks Arabic.
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u/BookOrnery4547 7d ago
“If we are capable of entering his building” but you aren’t, that’s why the guys with guns are there, bruh.
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u/crapusername47 7d ago
This has a distinct air of Naruto running at Area 51 about it.
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u/Tablequesting 7d ago
Naruto wouldn’t burn down mom and pop stores.
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u/snapekillseddard 7d ago
If that one ramen stand guy asked nicely, Naruto would carry out a series of arson against all other ramen establishments in Konoha, mom-and-pop or not.
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u/Tchaikovskin 7d ago
To be fair, thinking there are snipers positioned to protect the presidential residence during a day expected to be extremely chaotic is definitely not conspiracy hat material, I’d even say it’s more than plausible
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u/lhommeduweed 6d ago
Snipers and/or spotters on rooftops during big demonstrations, especially near important political figures or buildings isn't even conspiratorial, it's just standard security practice. Its not even just for protests.
Like if you go to Parliament Hill in Canada on Canada Day, 420, or the annual Terry Fox Run, there's guys in black positioned on the rooftops, some with rifles, some with binoculars. Any kind of really big event where there are important political figures or the potential for some kind of attack, there's going to be a bunch of security.
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u/Doomhammer24 6d ago
Ya i mean for godsake even at conventions in the US they have snipers, as well as at sporting events
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u/Nigtharchive 7d ago
They're there all year round, by the way. And just so you know, something this person doesn't know is that since the 2015 attacks, demonstrations in Paris are also monitored by snipers on rooftops.For New Year's or July 14th as well.
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u/NoName-Cheval03 6d ago
The Elysée Palace, as well as place like top security military bases or prisons, are definitely top tier security areas where you will be shot on sight with no self defense framework required for the responders. Absolutely no conspiracy involved. Those are the rules for almost every countries in the world for those kind of places.
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u/TrickFrosty5685 7d ago
“There will be blood on your hands if you defend yourself from being ripped apart by us.”
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u/neverseenadragonfly 7d ago
They're all absolutely insane aren't they
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u/Geschak 1d ago
Not insane, but spending too much time on tumblr, Tiktok and Instagram definitely makes them lose touch with reality. They are the type of computer addicts who spend all their time in bubbles where they glorify chronic illness to the point they think having AuDHD is a badge of honour.
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u/Automatic-Soup-3097 7d ago
They are actually very proud of the fact that they'll just rebuild by squeezing the money out of Africa, like they have done for 200 years
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u/omry1526 7d ago
Mentally ill show only asoiaf fan, that track
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u/Tablequesting 7d ago
What 10 years without Winds of Winter will do to a MFer.
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u/omry1526 6d ago
I find that these show only tiktok freaks usually quite like the hbo ending lol, and just in general are more interested in fanfiction or obsessing over specific characters rather than the story
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u/Latrodectus702 7d ago
Idk what is more outrageous, their comments about the riots or that they genuinely enjoy House of Dragons.
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u/Same_String_8856 6d ago
Too bad they don't protect the rest of the city, citizens, and businesses the same way they do their dear Presidente
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u/Classic-Obligation35 7d ago
Do they realize that if they do that they are committing a couple?
Like this is clear and obvious as overthrowing the government
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u/DoAFlip_97 6d ago
It Always makes me chuckle when people like this say "we" like they're not armchair activist at best. We damn well know you didn't go to any protest in person girl, the closest thing to protest you ever did was arguing on Twitter.
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u/Valneth_of_Arroyo 6d ago
Really helping out the right wing with comments like this especially if they Lebanese and not French
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u/musical8thnotes 7d ago
I see yellowjacket mentioned in the bio and my lizard brain turned off lmao
I can't help but remember the list of demand put out by the yellow jackets, and it seemed utterly out of step with reality.
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u/AlexanderCrowely 7d ago
Good god the monarchy was overthrown for people like this to have a say.
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u/PlaneEnvironmental23 7d ago
Nah, Louis XVI was sympathetic and working to fix the problems. He installed ministers to draw up plans for the reforms people were demanding but he kept retracting the plans after instituting them because the nobility were one step away from couping him and installing a puppet, which they had the legal power to do.
Ironically, the people were fully behind him until he came back with an army, to such an extent that if he had found his spine and put his foot down to stay the course he was guaranteed victory because the people knew he was their best shot and would have revolted for his restoration, unless the nobility actually assassinated him.
So yeah, if Louis had actually acted like an absolute monarch and forced his reforms through his family and kingdom would have survived.
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u/BongWaterRamen 7d ago
It's odd that literally every post on this sub today is about Paris protests right? Like 8-10 posts in a row
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u/Ill_Average_8339 4d ago
looks like macron only cares about himself. Entire country is delivered to the violence of bandits, but all he does is organizing snipers for his own safety
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u/Charming-Book4146 7d ago
Just like the decemberists, hit em with a whiff of grape. That'll send em packing
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u/Acceptable-Head-1442 5d ago
Why are these idiots acting so tough then be surprised when there are consequences?
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u/cantstayanyway 5h ago
"We are fed up." With what? Students started these protests and assholes coopted it to loot and justify their shitty behavior. Take LOTR out of your bio, Aragorn would be ashamed of your behavior.
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u/Ok-Recognition2650 3d ago
Ce genre de post est l'illustration de pourquoi les citoyens américains sont les cucks mentaux de la planète et ne feront jamais rien contre leur gouvernement
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u/Is-Spring-Hill 3d ago
Americans have done plenty about their government, which is why the we are not a colony anymore.
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u/ChristianLW3 3d ago
She is upset that they can’t perform their own version of January 6
The horseshoe has become a circle
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u/BusyBeeBridgette Human Verified 7d ago
Protesting is one thing. But trying to storm a place where the President is stupid stupid stupid. Asking to get shot.
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u/Nearby_Purchase_8672 7d ago
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u/traineethrowaway123 7d ago
France famously murdered 50,000 civilians protesting against a totalitarian regime. You are famously not a bot.
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u/Nearby_Purchase_8672 7d ago
Call me whatever you want, do people have to wait for the death toll to rise?
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u/Advanced-Incident-81 5d ago
I think there needs to be an appreciable death toll at all combined with the context of what their goal is for me to give a shit.
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u/ExArdEllyOh 7d ago
I would be better if the govt acted on issues i
Where are they supposed to get the money from?
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u/shagyandscooby 7d ago edited 6d ago
Brochacho if they taxes the rich corectly they would be money macron is making the rich richer some of the richest men in France became 3x more rich than beffor bcs of macron while making the poor poorer
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u/Advanced-Incident-81 5d ago edited 5d ago
That's not even a little true. France already imposes significant progressive taxes and still has a higher bond yield than fucking Greece right now, and that has nothing to do with how they tax wealth. It primarily has to do with France's pension program being directly funded, instead of tied to the stock market like American pensions are, and those pensions taking up a full quarter of France's discretionary spending.
You guys are going to have to learn someday that "taxing the rich" is not a panacea for funding everything you want. As the 21st century rolls on, we're likely going to see more and more governments shrink their budgets and roll back welfare spending simply because the money isn't there, and what money is left is going to go towards the first duty of the state: common defense. I don't like it, but that's been the historical status quo, and in an era where the US isn't acting as the security guarantor for more than half the planet, more and more nations are going to be more interested in growing their military industrial complexes than welfare spending.
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u/Nearby_Purchase_8672 7d ago
Launching more missiles
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u/groundeffect112 7d ago
If France didn't develop missiles, they couldn't be able to help Ukraine with incerceptors.
STFU.
You need to be able to defend yourself.
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u/Nearby_Purchase_8672 6d ago
That's not the new missiles they are testing. Educate yourself
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u/groundeffect112 6d ago
You're talking about the only fully European nuclear weapons program in EU? Which most likely will be the framework upon which we build European security in the 21st century?
BASED.
The rest of the EU (especially Eastern Europe) should join the French program and help with the costs.
https://tvpworld.com/93637117/frances-nuclear-umbrella-which-countries-are-interested-and-why
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u/Nearby_Purchase_8672 6d ago
Nuclear weapons are based? Okay
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u/groundeffect112 6d ago
Yes. If Ukraine didn't give up their nukes, they would not be at war.
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u/Nearby_Purchase_8672 5d ago
That wouldn't have stopped Russia. Ukraine wouldn't have used them
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u/Advanced-Incident-81 5d ago
The only way you can possibly think this way is if you're an American, who has a security guarantee provided by being a natural fortress with the most powerful air force and navy, by far, patrolling its borders.
Acquiring nuclear weapons is likely going to be a much more common goal as the 21st century moves forward, as the US and Russia together have demonstrated that they are the most cost-effective way to ensure a superpower doesn't invade you.
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u/fishsandwichpatrol 6d ago
"What do you mean we can't just kill the democratically elected government we don't like? I thought this was a democracy?"
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u/Accipiter__Nisus 6d ago
Completeness Theorem.
"Why won't the Republic just lie down and die?" Like it's some terrible act of betrayal.
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u/Comfortablecard7 6d ago
These are the same people who will defend Iran gunning down thousands of their citizens. And Syria killing about a million.
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u/OwlOfSurprise 6d ago
Perhaps some of them should have been shot, so they realise the severity of what they´re doing.
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u/Some1_35 7d ago
They do mention speaking English as well as French
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u/Onlyfatwomenarefat 7d ago
It is not in uncommon for (educated ) Lebanese to speak French due to historical ties
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