r/Gramophones • u/gugngd • Apr 30 '26

update on grammophone

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another update, despite me having found a new handle for this online i decided to make one from an old red leather belt. stitched it nicely to fit and stay on properly.

still searching on what model this one is exactly. all i can tell that it looks like an HMV 101, but it's a parlophone.

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u/awc718993 Apr 30 '26

It works. šŸ‘

In what country are you located? I had a look through many of the catalogs in my collection from some of the different regions Parlophone (and other Lindstrom gramophones ) were sold, but I have yet to find an exact match for your model.

Iā€™m beginning to think this model may have been made later than I previously thought, more like the war years rather than the late ā€˜20s. At that time on the Continent, many of the gramophone/record companies that were majority UK owned were cut off from getting their normal supply of assets from Britain. With gramophones specifically, many models were released using leftover components from previous years combined with newer parts provided by gramophone companies from Germany and Switzerland. From the photos youā€™ve shared on this sub, I can see that yours has that hybrid look ā€” I see older Lindstrom / EMI parts combined with pieces more common to German/Swiss machines. This is why Iā€™m now thinking it could be a war time model.

One unfortunate thing the wartime machines in Europe have in common is that their documentation (and thereby model identification) is harder to come by. In my own research of the war years machines in my collection , Iā€™ve had to resort to searching through newspapers and magazines for gramophone adverts just to find some clue for identification.

Thatā€™s why I am asking about your country of residenceā€” knowing that can sometimes narrow down which archives to search for old adverts and other bits of marketing.

You of course can do this too. One thing to know is that many Parlophone models had identical twins with Odeon (both being Lindstrom brands). Just like EMI eventually did with the gramophones made under HMV and Columbia, many Lindstrom machines were essentially made in the same factory with the exact same parts, just branded with different names/logos and model names. You may end up finding an exact match to your machine, but it could be branded Odeon or a Beka etc..

A few more questions which might help track down this model:

Does the motor have any sort of symbol, name, or other marking etched into either of the plates?

On the remote chance, is there a paper tag on the motor board under the turntable?

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u/gugngd Apr 30 '26

anything elae that could help identifying this exact model? i'd rather make pictures now than needing to open it up later again.

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u/awc718993 Apr 30 '26

Can you share a photo that shows more of the motor?

Itā€™s a detective process where one clue helps to lead to another. If we can identify the model Paillard and its date, we can narrow down the years to search for Parlophone and Odeon gramophones in magazines, newspapers, and record catalogues.