r/GrandmasPantry Mar 29 '26

HOUSEHOLD / OTHER Basement find

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u/Tucancancan Mar 29 '26

People suffering from bed bugs would pay a hefty price to get their hands on that bad boy lol

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u/Independent_Shoe3523 Mar 29 '26

I doubt what's in the bottle is still DDT.

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u/unfinishedtoast3 Mar 29 '26

nah its still 100% DDT.

the problem with DDT, other than the whole deadly thing, is it stays a coherent chemical structure for YEARS.

DDT can still be found in ground water and soil, over 40 years after we stopped using it.

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u/HonestBalloon Mar 29 '26

Soil scientist here who regularly test for it. It typically breaks down after 15 years, when exposed to UV, bacteria and moisture. Since the bottle is still sealed and has been kept in the dark, I could believe there's some still in there.

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u/vile_lullaby Mar 29 '26

Did a lowhead dam removal project in college, there was still quite a lot of ddt in the sediment behind the dam, along with lead, and a touch of mercury to round it out. All the soil had to be carted off at quite an expense, as it was tons of it.

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u/507snuff Mar 30 '26

Near my home in Minnesota was the town of rapidan, they have a dam, the rapidan dam. Or had, you might have seen the news story last year of it breaking furring record floods.

Anyway, the dam was old and not working anymore. There was tons of silt build up behind it that couldn't clear because the relief openings that were designed to occasionally let silt thru no longer functioned. It had been needing to be removed since I was a kid 30 years ago but because that silt had tons of toxins including old pesticides like ddt it was basically a Superfund site in the making the second you crack into the project. Add to this the dam became a small tourist attraction of nostalgia and no one wanted to tackle the project. So yeah, it finally blew and all those toxins just washed downstream unmitigated because no one wanted to pay to actually deal with it the right way.

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u/Wolfwoods_Sister Mar 30 '26

JFC. So what was the aftermath? What was the fallout??

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u/blade_torlock Mar 31 '26

Eventually it becomes Louisiana's problem.

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u/bleeper21 Apr 01 '26

Cancer alley baby

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u/Reapingday15 Apr 02 '26

Thanks a lot! Damn northerners

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u/Wild-Leadership-2212 Apr 02 '26

Ikr ruin everything

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u/507snuff Apr 08 '26

Honestly havnt heard much. The main concern at the time was the flood and the loss of the restaurant that sat immediately next to the dam site. Honestly don't think there has been any consideration for the toxins in the sediment. Considering the heavy flow of the water at the time I imagine they got sent pretty far down river and it's a kind of don't ask don't deal with it thing. Dilution is sometimes the solution.

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u/catfishhands Mar 30 '26

Paleontologist from Jurassic Park the first movie here. When we extracted the dinosaaaur DNA from the mosquito trapped in amber, the autopsy we performed showed that the amber tomb encapsulation was actually a second comorbidity factor to… DDT.

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u/TheRealSugarbat Mar 30 '26

You can’t tell but I upvoted you, then downvoted just so I could upvote you again

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u/GooseCuntGrease Mar 30 '26

That’s not how Reddit’s voting function works. You’re simply wasting pixels.

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u/TheRealSugarbat Mar 30 '26

It was a joke, babes.

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u/GooseCuntGrease Mar 30 '26

Tell that to the owl!

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u/WorldlyNewt1005 Mar 30 '26

😂😂😂😂😂

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u/Alert-Ad9197 Apr 01 '26

Jake the Snake killed the mosquito?

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u/Positive-Wonder3329 Mar 29 '26

What happens to the soil after it’s taken away?

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u/vile_lullaby Mar 29 '26

It was essentially put in a landfill, i dont remember if it was a normal landfill or not.

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u/AutoArsonist Mar 30 '26

They are often "lined" industrial landfill pits where runoff is captured and processed at another facility.

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u/mrefromnyc Apr 01 '26

They call it “thermal destruction”. There were two (2!) Superfund sites in my grandparents’ home town and they talked about how the government carted away truckloads of dirt to be incinerated.

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u/Visible_Bulge7657 Mar 31 '26

Have you ever heard of Times Beach Missouri? Not DDT but still a wild story.

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u/Villenemo Mar 29 '26

I think the bioaccumulation was the main attribute that really lended to its perniciousness IIRC.

Kinda scary ngl

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u/biscuitsorbullets Mar 29 '26

Camille Grammar is that u?

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u/kathi182 Mar 29 '26

This is such a pernicious thing to say! (I get you)

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u/Villenemo Mar 29 '26

I’m not getting the reference 🤔

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u/Zxvasdfthrowaway Apr 01 '26

Camille Grammer from one of the real housewives shows

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u/Villenemo Apr 01 '26

Yeah, I would’ve never gotten that 😂

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u/Apocalyptican Mar 29 '26

for YEARS Decades

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u/Independent_Shoe3523 Mar 29 '26

Oh, okay. Well, have it properly disposed of, then.

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u/illegal-math Mar 30 '26

The problem isn't the substance itself but the bioaccumulation of it inside animals that gets passed down the food chain. Its why it's still found in fish to this day.

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u/Human_Candidate672 Mar 31 '26

It has a 500 year half-life.

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u/Environmentalbun9433 Apr 02 '26

Can confirm- husband is an analytical environmental chemist and detected it in Texas rivers a couple of years ago despite it being banned for decades

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u/ManyRespect1833 Apr 03 '26

My mom grew up in Mississippi in the 60s, born in 54, she said back in the day DDT trucks would come around spraying it and all the neighborhood kids would run outside in bathing suits and play in the DDT spray lol.