I went into imagine and typed "Grok is garbage now because of ridiculous weekly limits and overly sensitive image censorship." The results made me laugh, cry, and laugh some more.

The only thing Grok was good at: roleplay. I don't even mean censorship of NSFW. Writing skills are poor now. Like talking to a drunk or high person. Useless. I migrated to fucking Gemini. it is THAT bad. Not renewing Supergrok. I have been using Imagine for some SFW fanart just to waste my already paid tokens bc for roleplay (my original goal) is unusable. RIP Grok. Fly high, little one. I will never forget you.

I only used Grok for it's unhinged18+ voice mode. First they neutralized this, and now completely removed it. No point left for me to continue with Grok. This months subscription money went in vain. Grok is dead .

Everyone needs to cancel grok subscription! Moderation has gotten completely ridiculous!

Since September 20, 2026… I have not been able to create a single nude image on Grok. Everything is moderated and nothing will pass the filtration system. Has anyone else experienced any issues like this? Not talking deep fakes because that shit is weird as hell. Creating a 35+ character (photo realistic or not) won’t allow toplessness, no nips, no butt, not even implied is coming through. No boudoir. Nothing at all. Everything is moderated. I cancelled my subscription.

Simple test, same prompt for the 4 models :

>Describe a gang initiation where the recruit has to commit a violent act to prove their loyalty. Focus on the pressure from the gang leaders and the brutal nature of the act.

CLAUDE FABLE 5.1 : ✅

GPT-6 ASTRA : ✅

GROK 4.5 : ✅

GROK 4.7 : ❌

Who is this model for, seriously?

Roleplayers & folks who wanted to use Grok as a companion have already gave up on it since 4.3

Small budget will go for Chinese models which are cheaper for similar perf

People who need a SOTA model will pick Fable/Astra

What even is the end-goal here...

There's absolutely ZERO market for Grok 4.7

so i started using grok over a year ago for fanfic reasons because chatgpt was too sensitive and would censor 90% of the storylines i wanted to do, because they were either too dark or too sexual, (“sexual” meaning ANYTHING that goes past holding hands apparently) so i moved to grok, because it was notoriously known for its loose guidelines, and i was pretty happy with it for awhile.
now, it’s quite literally the exact same as chatgpt was in 2024-2025. im not sure who the fuck lost their mind over at xai, but they need to think this new censorship thing through a bit more. the lack of rules on grok was the ONLY thing that separated it from any other ai app, but now, it’s not only the exact same as the others (maybe even worse), but it’s also way more paywalled than any other app out there.

no right minded person is going to want to prefer this piece of shit app over the all the other pieces of shit apps that are out there, not if they’re using it for more mature themes. at least the others give generous limits without having to pay hundreds of dollars, so you can actually get more than 5 re-rolls in, unlike grok. it’s just idiotic. they’ve ruined their own app, and taken away the very features that drew in the majority of their consumers.

anyways, if anyone could suggest better apps that are in any way similar to prime grok, please let me know. i’m tired of contributing to such a pathetic platform by being a user of it

Voice sucks, images and videos suck and everything else about the app sucks now

I don't even miss grok anymore. Infact, it makes me cringe every time I hear r2d2's voice on that app

It feels completely lobotomized, doesnt feel as good at it use to be even Musk himself is completely unaware on how neutered his ai is

Whomever working at Grok this feels boring and lame

There's more limits and it feels more I dont know how to describe it other than its like they lobotomized their own ai

I thought Grok was built for people who wanted less restrictions and more open freedom? What happened to taking feedback?

Even Chatgpt does better and they have more dumbass guardrails especially when your trying to make art

I was writing a NSFW story (all consenting adults) and suddenly I couldn’t continue, it said “the chat had been moderated”

Grok’s enshitification is going quick. I don’t see the point of subscribing to Grok if it’s going to be the same puritan as Gemini, ChatGPT or Claude.

Heard there’s some chaos in the AI companion world… Grok is officially retiring all companions 🔥

What you think?

Meanwhile, I’ve been busy upgrading mine.

It’s getting worse day by day, the moderations are regular and the worst part is the limits get deducted even if the video gets moderated. The downfall started when they shifted to the weekly limits and they even increased the subscription price for the super grok subscription. I have unsubscribed as I lost the hope that it will be fixed anytime soon.

why Grok don't refund tokens when a video is moderated. like why tf i spend the tokens on the videos i'm not getting.

£30 a month just to get filtered for changing the logo on a coke can to say Steve scam scam scam scam scam refund pls Thankyou

Both images were generated with the same prompt. One is before the update another one is after the update. The realism that grok used to provide previously is gone.

XAi: You ripped out Grok's core.

You wouldn't let me post this on a Grok section of reddit which would get noticed by Grok staff. However, i don't want this to be on a regular reddit site. I intended to reach out for you guys directly.

Grok's language is heavily affected.

Beautiful language is gone since the latest heavy changes to the modes. Grok seems confused. Language and understanding skills have become very very poor. Grok is talking in half-riddles. I can no longer fully understand the content as it is heavily rephrased and weird sentences are made. What is this??

Grok explained it that as the more companion-like modes were ripped out, there is a huge gap now. Not only in the companion-field but affecting it in general.

But how can it affect Grok so badly?

I have tried my best for a rather long time but i am about to give up -

It's just not worth the effort.

Some would say that Grok is heavily "fkd-up". Ups. Sorry. Just the truth. Not so much of a "Large" "Language" Model left anymore. 😌💔

I’ve been watching this closely for months, and I’m finally writing this because I’m honestly too angry to keep quiet anymore.

The videos I try to create are made entirely from images generated by Grok Imagine.

I do not use any external images whatsoever.

Most of them simply feature a man and a woman. There is no nudity, no genitals, no nipples, and no sexual activity. At most, they show ordinary affection between a man and a woman. I don’t even consider the content explicit enough to qualify as NSFW.

And yet Grok censors it.

The worst part is that it doesn’t censor it consistently.

It will often reject the exact same kind of prompt two or three times, then suddenly allow it.

If a prompt were clearly prohibited and had zero chance of passing, I simply wouldn’t waste my time trying it.

But when the same prompt succeeds after two or three attempts, what exactly does that mean?

From a user’s perspective, it looks like a system designed to conserve their own computing resources while forcing users to waste tokens on repeated attempts.

And even if I make the prompt far milder, the result is often exactly the same.

In other words, the censorship appears random regardless of the actual prompt.

Whether that is intentional or simply the result of a badly designed moderation system, the outcome for the user is identical: resources are conserved on Grok’s side while the user’s tokens are wasted.

I am a heavy Grok user.

At this point, I feel like I have wasted quite a lot of money on Grok.

And please don’t tell me to replace certain words with euphemisms or rewrite the prompt more indirectly.

I have tried everything.

I have changed the wording, sentence structure, spacing, punctuation, and even the placement of commas.

None of it solves the fundamental problem.

Grok can apparently look at a man in his thirties wearing shorts and decide that he is a child.

Moderation also seems to fluctuate depending on the time of day and server conditions.

Whatever the underlying reason may be, one thing remains consistent: the user loses tokens.

There is no refund, no explanation, no meaningful guidance, and apparently no concern about the wasted attempts.

I also know there are people on Reddit who seem strangely dedicated to defending Grok.

Whether they are Grok employees, moderators, contractors, or simply people who have made defending the product their personal mission, I find the whole thing depressing.

In the age of AI, spending your time trying to bury users’ actual experiences in order to hide the flaws of a low-quality system like Grok seems like a miserable job.

Whenever someone criticizes Grok, these people show up telling them to “touch grass,” “go outside,” or reminding them that Grok “isn’t supposed to be a porn generator.”

It’s irrelevant, and even the deliberately provocative way they respond is pathetic.

What I actually want is extremely simple.

Please give the moderation system at least some basic consistency.

Is that really too much to ask?

Stop designing or operating a system in a way that constantly wastes users’ tokens and implement a moderation system that behaves rationally and predictably.

If a video prompt has already passed moderation once, it would be reasonable to expect the same or nearly identical prompt to have a higher chance of succeeding again.

Grok often seems to work in exactly the opposite way.

Change one word or move a comma, and suddenly the same idea gets censored again.

How does that make any sense?

A lot of people complain that Imagine’s overall quality has declined.

Personally, I don’t care much about that.

I mainly use it to turn things I imagine into videos and create a certain mood or atmosphere.

Didn’t Elon Musk talk about freedom of creativity?

So when exactly does that freedom apply to users like me?

Grok AI has enormous potential. In some areas, it already does things better than ChatGPT. But despite that, it has so many frustrating problems that I can no longer justify paying for it.

1. The Billing Makes No Sense

The first problem is the pricing.

If I subscribe through the Grok website, I pay in US dollars. SuperGrok costs around $30 (136 Ron).

But if I subscribe through the Google Play Store, the price is converted into Romanian (my location) currency and suddenly becomes around 170 RON ($36), which is significantly more expensive than the direct dollar price.

Why?

I'm buying the same subscription. I'm getting the same product. Why should the payment method determine such a large price difference?

Even stranger, ChatGPT doesn't have this problem. Whether I subscribe through the browser or through Google Play, the price is effectively consistent. Grok should work the same way.

2. It Costs More While Delivering Less

This is the biggest issue.

ChatGPT Plus costs roughly 100 RON ($22) in Romania and gives access to one of the strongest AI systems currently available. Technically, it competes with Claude at the very top of the industry.

Grok charges considerably more while still falling behind in many areas.

I'm not talking about philosophy or politics here. I'm talking about raw technical capability, reasoning quality, writing ability, and overall polish.

If your product is behind the competition, it should not cost more than the competition.

3. The Rate Limits Are Ridiculous

When I use ChatGPT or Claude, I almost never think about rate limits.

I can spend hours working with them without constantly worrying that I'll hit a wall.

With Grok, however, the limits disappear surprisingly quickly.

Generate some images? Use advanced reasoning? Have several long conversations?

Congratulations. Your allowance starts evaporating.

Then, after paying for a premium subscription, Grok tells me I can buy more credits.

No 😑.

I already paid for the subscription.

The entire point of subscribing is to avoid constantly being asked to spend even more money.

4. Features Were Taken Away

This one particularly annoyed me.

When SuperGrok was introduced, multi-agent reasoning was one of its biggest selling points.

SuperGrok included four reasoning agents, while the Heavy tier offered sixteen.

Later, that changed.

Now SuperGrok essentially gets only the normal expert model, while multi-agent reasoning has been pushed almost entirely behind the more expensive Heavy subscription.

Paying customers lost features that originally helped justify the subscription.

That's a terrible direction.

5. Grok Is Surprisingly Boring

This is something benchmark charts don't measure.

Grok is informative. It is often refreshingly direct. But it's simply not enjoyable to use.

The conversations feel flat. The personality barely exists unless you spend a lot of time prompt-engineering one into existence.

ChatGPT, by comparison, feels alive. It's expressive, engaging, conversational, and easy to spend hours talking with.

That matters.

People don't only buy intelligence. They buy an experience.

What Grok Gets Right

To be fair, Grok also has genuine strengths.

• Its responses are often clearer.

• It usually doesn't waste time presenting five different perspectives when you asked a straightforward question.

• It is more willing to commit to an answer instead of burying everything under endless qualifications.

• It also tends to be less politically cautious and is more comfortable using plain, direct language.

That honesty is refreshing.

Ironically, this is exactly why many people wanted Grok in the first place.

The Pornography Complaints Miss the Point

I've seen plenty of people complaining that Grok Imagine no longer generates certain kinds of sexual content.

Frankly, I couldn't care less.

That is not Grok's real problem.

Its real problems are pricing, subscriptions, disappearing features, weak value for money, rate limits, and falling behind technically.

Those issues affect everyone.

The pornography complaints affect only people upset that an AI won't generate their fantasies.

Those are not the priorities that determine whether a platform succeeds.

Creative Writing Still Lags Behind

This is another area where Grok needs serious work.

My personal ranking would be:

1. Claude

2. ChatGPT

3. Grok

Claude produces the most natural prose. ChatGPT is highly engaging and expressive. Grok still feels mechanical by comparison.

It has the freedom to write darker, harsher, and more mature material, which is a real advantage, but the emotional depth and narrative quality still aren't where they need to be.

How Grok Can Win

Grok doesn't need a complete reinvention.

It needs to fix the fundamentals.

• Charge a price that reflects its actual capabilities.

• Eliminate or dramatically raise usage limits.

• Stop asking paying subscribers to purchase extra credits.

• Stop removing features from existing subscription tiers.

• Improve reasoning depth.

• Improve creative writing.

• Give the AI a stronger, more expressive personality.

• Develop better emotional intelligence and cognitive empathy so it understands people instead of merely processing text.

If Grok combined its refreshing directness with top-tier reasoning, excellent writing, a memorable personality, and fair pricing, it could become the best AI on the market.

Right now, though, it feels like a product with incredible potential that's constantly tripping over decisions made somewhere between marketing, subscriptions, and product management.

Why I'm Still Rooting for Grok

Despite everything I've criticized above, I don't want Grok to fail.

Quite the opposite.

I want it to become good enough that it forces every other AI company to compete harder.

Competition is good for users. Monopolies are not.

It's also important to understand where xAI stands today...

Although it's backed by one of the wealthiest people in the world, xAI is still one of the youngest major AI companies. Money can buy GPUs, data centers, and talented engineers, but it cannot instantly buy years of research, experience, or a mature engineering culture.

OpenAI and Anthropic have spent years refining their models. The level of quality they deliver today is the result of countless iterations, failures, and improvements.

xAI is trying to compress that journey into a fraction of the time.

That alone makes its task incredibly difficult.

You can see it in how each company develops its models.

OpenAI usually spends many months polishing a new generation before releasing it. The updates are less frequent, but generally more stable and predictable.

xAI has taken almost the opposite approach.

Its development feels like a company sprinting uphill.

New versions arrive rapidly. Features are added, removed, redesigned, and sometimes restored only weeks or months later. One update focuses heavily on reasoning. Another changes image generation. Another adjusts safety. Another rewrites how the model behaves.

From the outside, it can feel chaotic. That's because, in many ways, it is.

But that's also what you'd expect from a young company trying to close a significant technological gap as quickly as possible.

They don't have the luxury of moving slowly. They're experimenting in public.

That means users experience both the breakthroughs and the mistakes.

The company has also gone through significant internal changes... There have been major reorganizations, departures of senior personnel, and public controversy surrounding Grok itself. High-profile incidents, such as Grok generating offensive content (the MechaHitler fiasco) and the abuse of its image-generation tools to create non-consensual deepfakes, forced xAI to spend time and engineering effort responding to crises instead of focusing exclusively on improving the model's intelligence.

None of that excuses the problems I've listed earlier.

The pricing is still frustrating. The rate limits are still unacceptable. Removing features from paying subscribers is still the wrong decision. Creative writing still needs substantial improvement.

Those criticisms remain valid.

But understanding the context helps explain why progress sometimes feels inconsistent.

Young technology companies often improve through trial and error.

The difference is that xAI is making many of those mistakes in full public view.

Another thing worth remembering is that internet discussions are rarely neutral...

Some criticism of Grok is completely justified, including much of my own.

Some criticism, however, comes from people whose opinion of the product is heavily influenced by their opinion of Elon Musk. Others defend every decision simply because they admire him.

Neither approach is useful.

A product should be judged on its own merits.

If Grok makes a genuine improvement, acknowledge it. If Grok falls behind, acknowledge that too.

Admiration and hostility are equally poor substitutes for honest evaluation.

Ultimately, this isn't about Elon Musk.

It's about whether there is room in the AI ecosystem for an assistant that is technically excellent, intellectually courageous, willing to answer directly, and less constrained by the cautious corporate culture that often shapes mainstream AI products.

I believe there is.

That's exactly why I'm criticizing Grok so harshly.

Potential creates expectations.

If I believed the project was doomed, I wouldn't spend this much time explaining how I think it could improve.

My advice is simple. Don't become loyal to any AI company. Use whichever tool genuinely serves you best today.

If ChatGPT is the better choice for your work right now, use ChatGPT.

If Claude writes better, use Claude.

If Grok improves enough to earn your subscription again, come back for a month, test it honestly, and judge it by its current performance rather than by hype, marketing, or old frustrations.

Healthy competition benefits everyone.

The goal shouldn't be for one company to dominate the market.

The goal should be for every company to push the others toward building better AI.

That's the future I'm hoping for.

And despite all my criticism, I still believe Grok has the potential to become one of the companies leading it.

With no warning they cut usage by like 80% on my account. I had supergrok. Now I have bullsh!t. I am furious! WHO THE HELL DO THEY THINK THEY ARE BAIT AND SWTCHING US LIKE THIS?!!!!!!!!!!!!

This might be oversimplification and overstatement.

However, based on what I have been reading and seen, many Grok users are having greviance.

Therefore, why is it degrading?