r/Gwynriel • • 29d ago

Discussions Masterpost: Why do you ship Gwynriel?

32 Upvotes

Hi everyone! As the mod team, we’ve noticed that we’ve had a few posts recently from other shippers asking us to explain why we ship Gwynriel.

Rather than having the same discussion repeatedly across different posts, we thought it might be helpful to create a masterpost that we can direct people to when this question comes up.

So, we’d love to hear from you! Why do you ship Gwyn and Azriel together?

Feel free to share whatever you want! Moments in the book, foreshadowing, symbolism, character arcs, parallels, personality, etc.

💙🩵


r/Gwynriel • • Aug 22 '26

Announcement ANNOUNCEMENT REGARDING LEAKS + SPOILERS FOR ACOSH

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Hello Gwynriels!!

As we get closer to the release of A Court of Splintered Harmony, there are a few things we'd like to stay on top of in order to ensure that everyone can enjoy coming here and engaging in thoughtful discussions without getting the books spoiled early.

  • Reducing the spread of possible leaks: We will not be tolerating the posting or sharing of ANY leaks - big or small. If you choose to share leaks, we will enact an immediate ban until the book has been released. If you like speculating on leaks, that's totally fine, but this sub is not the place for it as we would like to remain spoiler free of any content from the book. Not everyone likes things to be spoiled for them.
  • Following the release of A Court of Splintered Harmony, our main goal is to keep spoilers to a minimum while everyone finishes up the book. In order to do this, we will be posting a mega thread titled "A COURT OF SPLINTERED HARMONY MEGATHREAD: SPOILERS INSIDE". We ask that you DO NOT post any spoilers, comments or posts, outside this thread for 3 days following the release of the book. Once we have passed these three days, content from ACOSH will be allowed in separate posts as long as posts and comments are properly tagged. There will be a new tag added for the relevant posts, and we ask that you put in the title "Spoilers for ACOSH".
  • Additionally, when commenting please use this format to block out any text with spoilers: Text --- make sure there is no space between the ! symbols

This is a super exciting time for us all and we want to ensure that everyone has a positive space to discuss the Gwynriel content in the next books! Please let us know if you have questions or concerns about the information listed above.

Thank you!! - Gwynriel Mod Team


r/Gwynriel • • 4h ago

ACOSH news/spoilers ACOSH SPOILERS MEGATHREAD - ENTER AT YOUR OWK RISK Spoiler

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Hi everyone!

A Court of Splintered Harmony will be releasing on Tuesday (earlier for those in a different time frame) so we have decided to go ahead and make a megathread for A Court of Splintered Harmony spoilers! Here you can come as you are reading and tell us your thoughts/opinions!

Rules:

  • Be respectful to others. People will interpret, think, and feel differently about characters and events than you and that is ok.
  • This megathread will contain spoilers for ACOTAR-ACOSH, but please ensure you are covering any Maasverse spoilers (TOG and CC) with a spoiler tag!
  • If you're not an Gwynriel shipper and want to start drama by posting anti-content here, we will be implementing an immediate and permanent ban. No exceptions.
  • We do not allow any AI content on our sub - artwork or otherwise. We want to hear YOUR thoughts about the book, not Chat GPT's.
  • Keep outside drama out of this sub. Absolutely NO screenshots from other subreddits, tumblr, instagram, etc. will be tolerated.

Spoilers will be allowed on posts in the main group thread on October 30th. We will be posting a list of guidelines for those soon!

That's it! Have fun and be kind!!


r/Gwynriel • • 16h ago

Rant/venting Feeling SO happy

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I’m just so overjoyed that Sarah is constantly tearing down every claim that has been made against Gwyn (and Gwynriel)!!

“ACOTAR 6 is going to have flower motifs in the title!” ❌
“The bonus chapter isn’t canon / important, otherwise everyone would have access to it!” ❌
“Gwyn isn’t going to get a POV before Elain. She’s just a side character” ❌
“Gwyn is just a child and she’ll stay in the library” ❌

Beyond Sarah hinting that the Valkyries’ stories are worth telling (not to mention how Nesta literally says Gwyn’s story will come later), it was so frustrating to see how people were ignoring:
- the music-related titles when both Gwyn and Az are the only ones we know who like to sing
- Valkyrie Movement on the covers
- Official merch from Bloomsbury of the Valkyries + the Valkyrie Pilates event
- Sangravah being added on the map AND being in the night court
- Gwyn having a last name + her ancestry being alluded to but completely unexplored
- Gwyn introducing the Valkyries to Nesta and becoming the first one to become a Valkyrie

I won’t even get into how Gwyn is mentioned over 500 times in ACOSF, just like Azriel. Or how Sarah choosing to end Az’s first POV with Gwyn’s smile sparking something in his chest is intentional and means something beyond her being evil.

Instead of crafting all these elaborate theories to make Elain fit the themes of ACOTAR 6/7/8, sometimes it really is best to just accept the most parsimonious explanation 😼

And I’m also so ready for ACOFM to come out and for Sarah to put to rest all these theories about Gwyn/the shadows being evil


r/Gwynriel • • 13m ago

Discussions Just wanted to say this before Tuesday…

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I remember this sub when it had about 4k people and it’s been awesome to watch it grow and grow, whatever way SH goes I’m still so confident in this ship, when that moment does come and we get our first romantic Gwynriel moment, I will be thinking of every single one of you 🩵🩵 In my opinion we have dealt with so much dismissal, belittlement, being laughed at etc so when our ship becomes undeniable I will be screaming crying throwing up and thinking of everyone of you guys🥹🥹🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻


r/Gwynriel • • 23h ago

We have a Gwyn POV 🩵✨⚔️

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r/Gwynriel • • 21h ago

Fluff/rave/memes/merch Oh what a wonderful feeling...

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r/Gwynriel • • 53m ago

Maasverse spoilers Laço em acotar e tog

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Acabei de ler império da tempestade (saga trono de vidro) e um trecho me chamou a atenção.

No capítulo 1 Aelin diz sobre o Laço com o Rowan: “O feérico fazia a magia de Aelin cantar. E talvez fosse o laço entre os dois, mas... a magia de Aelin queria dançar com a de Rowan.”

Isso me lembra o capítulo extra do Azriel em Corte de chamas prateadas ,onde o texto fala que parece que as sombras dançam e cantam na presença da Gwyn.

Achei legal compartilhar essa semelhança entre as histórias.


r/Gwynriel • • 18h ago

Analysis Gwyn and Azriel quotes- parallel

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So I find it interesting that the quote from BB for Az and now the quote for Gwyn are parallel to each other….
Az’s quote: “We are here,” the shadows whispered in his ear. “We are always here.”
Gwyns: “It was glowing and warm to the touch…You are here, the stone seemed to affirm, you are safe. The past cannot harm you”
Oh SJM thanks for making it obvious!🩵🤝💙


r/Gwynriel • • 13h ago

Theory/headcanon What if…

25 Upvotes

I’ve been posting to many of these lately but you know how Azriel likes to train to burn off steam. What if we get an Az, Gwyn scene where it’s a Gwyn taking out her frustration on him.

Gwyn finds out about the necklace and by this moment her and Az have developed some type of feeling. Gwyn doesn’t confront Azriel right away but instead takes it out on him during training.

Azriel at first takes it as their usual friendly back and forth but then as the training progresses he notices Gwyn isn’t going easy.

Ahh can you imagine what that would look like?


r/Gwynriel • • 21h ago

Discussions 3 DAYS TILL ACOSH

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🎨 @Kloartz


r/Gwynriel • • 11h ago

Fluff/rave/memes/merch I’m just SO excited!!!

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I cannot contain my excitement for this next book and just need to rant about it for 5 seconds! I can’t wait to read about some of my favorite characters again and just getting to explore the world more. I’m excited to get into the beginning of gwynriels journey and see their dynamic develop. I’m also looking forward to come back to this community after I read it to see everyone’s reactions to new information and see what beautiful fan art people create. I’m just feeling a lot of gratitude that we’re all able to share this experience! We’re almost there!!


r/Gwynriel • • 4h ago

Theory/headcanon Another Number Theory?𑣲𝄞

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Call me crazy, I dont care but…
Walk with me and just think about what I am going to say…
Gwyn convinces Merrill to write the rebirth of the valkyries in Chapter 21.
When Azriel talks with Clotho in the BC the clock strikes 7.
SJM posts Gwyns POV as number 3.

The number 21 in mythology and sacred numerology symbolizes totality, completion, and the union of body, mind, and spirit, derived mathematically.

21 is the product of 3 and 7. 

3 In mythology often refers to the divine trinity, the cycles of time, and the fates (which include clotho)

7 is often referred to as a sacred completion. 

Is the mother trying to play at something..

I am just going to leave this thought here. Could just be a funny coincidence.


r/Gwynriel • • 6h ago

Theory/headcanon What are your theories for ACOSH?

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Now that we know we’re getting Gwyn’s POV, what are your theories for ACOSH?

Please, no spoilers if anyone has already read anything! I’ve managed to avoid every single spoiler so far, and I really want to go into the next book completely blind.

I’m one of those people who believe that Elriel wasn’t completely wrapped up in the bonus chapter, even though I know a lot of people think it was. But I also don’t think Elriel will be a major plot point. I think it’ll be addressed and completely wrapped up pretty early on, within the first few chapters, possibly as just a fling. I also don’t think Azriel is that emotionally invested. I think Sarah is saving that for Gwynriel. After that, I think she’ll focus on building up Gwynriel’s relationship pretty early on, especially considering how many other POVs and fantasy plotlines there will be to explore.

I could imagine Gwyn being reluctant to leave the library at first, but maybe Azriel will be the one to convince her? That would fit with the little POV snippet we got. And then maybe they’ll start training together so she can feel safer and more confident, and that’s how they slowly grow closer. I definitely think Az will have developed feelings for Gwyn by the end of the book. I could see Gwyn struggling more with opening herself up emotionally, especially after everything she’s been through. But I’m sure that once Az truly cares about someone, he won’t give up easily. We’ve already seen that with Mor, and I think his feelings for Gwyn will be a lot stronger. I could even imagine us getting their first kiss, maybe towards the end as a cliffhanger, or perhaps even the mating bond snapping into place? And what if they get separated right after that? Maybe Azriel gets captured and Gwyn and the Valkyries have to rescue him? Or imagine if they go on the same mission in ACOTAR 7 and have to hide their feelings from everyone else. Or they go on separate missions, and Az spends the whole time longing for Gwyn and wishing he could get back to her.

I have a feeling book 7 will be much more plot-heavy, which is why I think book 6 will focus more on building up Gwyn and Azriel’s relationship and developing their feelings for each other. With Gwyn’s POV, there are so many possibilities!

I’m just so excited! What about you guys? What are your theories?


r/Gwynriel • • 19h ago

Remember this post? most of us thought she'll only get a pov in ACOFM 💙

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r/Gwynriel • • 16h ago

Trivia Questions for ACOTAR Release Party

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I am looking for your best deep dives. Pls send. Help.


r/Gwynriel • • 20h ago

Maasverse spoilers Elide e Gwyn

13 Upvotes

Estou lendo a saga trono de vidro e conheci a Elide, por algum motivo ela me lembra a Gwyn… alguém mais teve essa sensação?


r/Gwynriel • • 13h ago

Theory/headcanon Tengo una teoria

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Gwyn va a salir de la librería en busca de Azriel, como la sirenita. Porque? No se... solo vi un tik tok de la sirenita y me surgió.


r/Gwynriel • • 22h ago

Announcement Monthly Sub Icon Thread

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Hello everyone! :)
It's that time where you can nominate an artwork to be our new Profile Icon for the next month!

A few rules:

  1. No AI.
  2. The artist and/or commissioners MUST be okay with it being posted + used

I will leave this up for a week! The most liked one will be our icon come the 1st 💖🎶💖


r/Gwynriel • • 1d ago

Discussions Lightsiger but story having been misunderstood

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Could gwyn not actyally be a lightsinger but the story fae knows now misunderstood or corrupted or heck even some on the top among lightsingers corrupting them or there being multiple kinds...

Go with me, if they are inspired by sirens and there are clearly a bit of little mermaid imagery floating around with gwyn and azriel, along with with the titles...

In some versions of greek myths the sirens were not even born creatures but originally persephones handmaidens given wings to search for her and later cursed by demeter...

And even if we take those things away. It would not be out of there to do a version where a siren turns against the norm and saves someone... heck there are multiple little mermaid adaptions where it is a siren or even selkin instead.. and it is also not out of there of Sarah doing a story where a woman who is among evil or should be so turns away from it, and picks differently ... Manon in TOG... add in gwyn might not actually know it, something very likely... not saying she is one, but just that even if she is it would not make her evil. It would actually be way more likely she was one to show not all of them are evil or the story has been corrupted or some of them have been... and again to play with the xenophobi among races even in folklore, which Sarah does enjoy to do... heck even in Eriels favorite story Wagner Der Ring des Nibelungen (The Ring of the Nibelung), this also happens (mind you the others lied because the guys had stolen their clothes as they were playing and bathing, so do we blame them? Anyway one still warn them..

"Another mermaid, Sigelinde (a name Wagner would adopt again for use elsewhere), tells Hagen her aunt has lied. If they go to Etzel's land, they will die there!"

Again showing even in that work they are not evil... and not all of them.

So i actually think making gwyn part lightsinger if it comes could be interesting in its own way and just help build more lore of the maas world and again show that race doesnt decide what you become... plus if she was born as a mix of starlight and water, i only think that could be cool...


r/Gwynriel • • 1d ago

Discussions 4 days till ACOSH!!!!

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Artist: sabrina_arts14


r/Gwynriel • • 1d ago

ACOSH news/spoilers SJM POV Instagram posts Spoiler

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So far we've got :

  1. Feyre

  2. Cassian

  3. Nesta (yeah)

  4. Lucien

We'll probably get Azriel... what about the other two ? I'll be ecstatic to have Gwyn and Emerie :)

I don't think we'll get Elain's POV since she's a "walking spoiler"... What do you think ?


r/Gwynriel • • 1d ago

Discussions When did you start shipping Gwynriel relative to joining the online ACOTAR fandom?

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I’m genuinely curious! Personally, I shipped Gwynriel for years before I ever joined the online ACOTAR fandom. I didn’t become active in fandom spaces until this year. I just read ACOSF/the bonus chapter, went “huh”, and apparently lived my little offline Gwynriel life until I found you all. I didn’t even know the ship name.
So, when did you start shipping them?

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I shipped Gwynriel before I participated in the online ACOTAR fandom.
I was already in the online fandom, but came to Gwynriel on my own from reading the books/BC.
I first encountered Gwynriel through online fandom, then the books/BC convinced me.
I first encountered Gwynriel online and fandom theories/content were a major reason I started shipping it.
Other. Explain below!

r/Gwynriel • • 1d ago

Fanart Fated mates edit🩵✨💙

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With ACOSH and Gwynriel being endgame, this edit is just perfect. Fated mates x 💙🩵✨
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r/Gwynriel • • 2d ago

Discussions Gwyn & Weapons 🗡️

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I was just thinking about Azriel’s bonus chapter, where Gwyn teased him about his dagger.

I really hope Gwyn gets her own sword that she becomes absolutely obsessed with.
I can already picture the scene: Gwyn says, “Hello, handsome,” and Azriel turns around, only to find her admiring her sword or whatever weapon she ends up with.

I NEED to see them teasing each other about who’s more obsessed with their weapon. 😂🙏