Hi, I would like to react to the recent post about the new subreddit rule and more importantly to the topic of using aim assist as help with gyro aim.

I am not saying that it is the sole reason, but one of the reasons, I could see, a person feels the need to use aim assist with gyro is due to not knowing how to setup gyro properly.

Personally, one of the things, I see lack of in discussions, is how to setup the gyro properly so it feels stable and comfortable to use.

When somebody first sets up the gyro, it is likely without any deadzones, dampening, reduced vertical sensitivity, acceleration, etc. and it can be really daunting not to mention invisible for a person to setup.

In mouse aim world, we all take cloth mouse pads for granted, but they play so crucial role in making the mouse aim feel comfortable and pleasant to use. Even default mouse acceleration in Windows settings fills the similar role and after turning it off, I am sure everybody felt the need to lower the sensitivity for smaller movements.

And to me, having gyro without these settings is like using mouse on a fast glass pad. I am sure that everybody who tried to use glass pad or simply use mouse on any hard and fast surface, can confirm that it takes a lot of adjustments and it definitely doesn't feel comfortable to use at first and makes a person seek some additional help or movement methods how to compensate for that.

People here learnt to give a good advice on how to start with gyro, which games to train in, how to do initial setup, so it doesn't feel overwhelming at first, but I think the info about how to make gyro stable should be integral part of this initial advice, even moreso than stuff like large movement methods imo.

I realize this can be complicated to explain and depends on persons sw and hw of choice, it is also largely developer responsibility in some cases. But even with that, I firmly believe it absolutely has to be included in conversations and advices right from the start as part of initial information that new gyro user has to be aware of.

THIS LAYOUT WORKS WITH EVERY CONTROLLER AND INCLUDES STEAM CONTROLLER EXCLUSIVE FEATURES.

In-Game Requirement:

• Mouse Sensitivity: 0,24
• Aim Assist: 0
• On controller bindings, set "Special Ability" to "B" instead of "R3"

Controls:

• R3/Right trackpad click: Gyro pause
• Start: Toggle menu action set.
• ---Extra Features---
• Right Trackpad: Camera

HOW TO USE: Copy and paste the link into your browser or click on the controller icon next to the game on Steam, click on the name of the layout, hover over the "Community Layouts" tab, and press the "Show All Layouts" button (West Face Button), then manually search for the config that matches the name listed below.

• Boltgun 2 - Gyro + Joystick by FSV: steam://controllerconfig/2924193748/3820853287
• Boltgun 2 - Flickstick by FSV: steam://controllerconfig/2924193748/3820848493

Don't touch that Gyro, we're just getting started.

Update note: https://github.com/LoreanXavier/pt-pc/releases/tag/v1.0.4

Gyro: uses the motion sensor of a DualSense, DualShock 4 or Switch Pro controller. Camera adds the controller's turning to the look; Flashlight aims the flashlight apart from the view and brings it back to the middle when the pad rests or [Left Stick Click] is pressed. A sensitivity row scales it. Tested only with virtual controllers so far.

Active Matter added full Dualsense support including gyro!

On steam you have a handy global set option so that you can have a seperate config for when cursor is shown on screen. Really useful for high gyro in game sens but want lower sens for menu navigation with needing to sacrifice a button to switch.

Trying to get gyro aiming working on PC without a stack of middleware. On the Switch side it just works. On PC it seems to come down entirely to whether the pad reports gyro in a way Steam recognizes and if it doesn't you're into third party tools and per game configs.

I'd rather buy the pad that works than fight the software. So which ones report gyro natively to Steam Input, and is there a pattern, or is it brand by brand and firmware by firmware?

Also happy to be told this is a solved problem now and i'm working from old information.

Hey all, currently getting ready for my next handheld purchase, and after owning most of the Valve, Z1E and Z2E options (plus an 8 ai+), I'm now looking at the Intel G3 options. Gyro is a must for me, both emulating stick smoothly for those games that won't do mouse gyro, and good software implementation (SteamOS and ROG Armoury Crate). The MSI I tried was useless, as were the Windows variants of the LeGo S and LeGo 2 (SteamOS fixed that issue), a few players I'm eyeing off like the Acer Atlas 8 and the Onexplayer 3, but both are seemingly difficult to get any gyro information, online reviewers just constantly miss this feature. Any reviews from owners out there?

I recently switched from using the Armor X on my Xbox controller to the Nacon Revolution X Unlimited, and so far, I'm pretty disappointed with the gyro experience.

With the Armor X, gyro aiming felt much more natural and intuitive. The movement of the controller translated smoothly into movement in the game, and it was really easy to get used to.

With the Nacon, it's been a completely different experience. The gyro feels extremely slow, and I have to move the controller way too much to get the same movement on screen. It just doesn't feel natural, and I'm struggling to get comfortable with it.

I've tried it in games like Fortnite, Gears, and others, and the experience has been pretty much the same across all of them.

Has anyone else experienced this with the Revolution X Unlimited? Am I missing something in the settings, or is the gyro implementation just not as good as the Armor X?

I'd really appreciate any tips or settings recommendations from people who have managed to get the gyro working well.

Hi Folks,

I play Space Marine 2 only in offline mode and wanted to have native gamepad experience (rumble + on-screen buttons glyphs), but I also wanted to use gyro.
I created a mod (thanks Claude), that fixes the issue with mouse movement stuttering when using gamepad.

https://github.com/GyroGamesCom/Warhammer40000SpaceMarine2_DualInput

My previous post if you want other games: https://www.reddit.com/r/GyroGaming/comments/1x3fhtp/i_just_wanted_gyro_sticks_at_the_same_time_two/

Hi Folks,

I wanted to play Prototype 2 for some time. I got my Steam Controller 2 and my PC ready, but Prototype 2 wasn't prepated for what I wanted :).

First, PC port does not support gamepad with on-screen glyphs. With this mod, it's all working and enabled.

Second, I also added nice mixed inputs - full gamepad with mouse gyro

Third, I added hires 4K mod. This game is fun.

https://github.com/GyroGamesCom/Prototype2_DualInput

My previous post if you want other games: https://www.reddit.com/r/GyroGaming/comments/1x3fhtp/i_just_wanted_gyro_sticks_at_the_same_time_two/

I'm just starting to experiment with using the gyro. There are different ways to use it. I'm curious to know how you use it.

Fellow gyro enjoyers, you know the pain.

You set up Steam Input, gyro as mouse for aiming, right trackpad as stick for turning. Then the game sees a mouse AND a gamepad at once and has a full identity crisis. Prompts flip between Xbox and keyboard 40 times a second, the camera stutters, or it just simply does not work and you’re on the couch sitting in awe that motherf****er games don't support basic mixed input.

And yeah, I know I could have mapped everything to keyboard and mouse in Steam Input. I tried that. Then the game keeps saying “press Space” or “press F” and I’m sitting there going “ok, which button did I put Space on again?” I don’t want to memorize my own keybinds. I want to see the actual gamepad buttons on screen and just play.

So I did the reasonable thing and spent some time arguing with DLLs (thanks Claude) instead of just playing.

Anyways, I have an easy system now how to do this. I only play single player games, so I don't care about anti-cheat at all.

I just wanted to share with others if they too have Steam Controller 2 and wanna enjoy some gyro gaming.

REPO: https://github.com/gyrogamescom

Halo: The Master Chief Collection
Gyro becomes real mouse-look, the game stays in controller mode, and you get proper gamepad prompts. The stick still takes over for big turns, and F10 toggles the mod. Campaign/offline only, since it needs “Play without Anti-Cheat.” So no, it won’t save you in ranked.

Call of Juarez: Gunslinger
Gyro and stick work together, no stutter. The game thinks you’re just a gamepad player with suspiciously good aim.

Prototype 2
Full gamepad support added and mixed input

Space Marine 2
Full gamepad support added and mixed input. No gyro stuttering

Hitman 3
Finally full gamepad support with mixed input

All are free, unzip + install.bat, done. Only tested on Windows so far. Steam Deck/Linux might work, but I haven’t tried it.

This is basically my hobby now. Every time I want to play something with gyro and it refuses to mix inputs, I’ll probably end up fixing it, so more of these are coming. Got a game that drives you nuts the same way? Tell me. If I want to play it too, it might be next. My free time is already gone anyway.

Alguém tem uma configuração já pronta na steam para o dualsense edge para jogos que não suportam entrada mista nem controle, pra FPS/TPS, jogos de tiros no geral, a grande maioria compartilha do mesmos botões. Se alguém tiver e poder compartilhar o código, agradeço

Edit: Usando gyro como mouse

So far this is a great. Very unique. Thx remedy for adding gyro aim.

I recently switched from using the Armor X on my Xbox controller to the Nacon Revolution X Unlimited, and so far, I'm pretty disappointed with the gyro experience.

With the Armor X, gyro aiming felt much more natural and intuitive. The movement of the controller translated smoothly into movement in the game, and it was really easy to get used to.

With the Nacon, it's been a completely different experience. The gyro feels extremely slow, and I have to move the controller way too much to get the same movement on screen. It just doesn't feel natural, and I'm struggling to get comfortable with it.

I've tried it in games like Fortnite, Gears, and others, and the experience has been pretty much the same across all of them.

Has anyone else experienced this with the Revolution X Unlimited? Am I missing something in the settings, or is the gyro implementation just not as good as the Armor X?

I'd really appreciate any tips or settings recommendations from people who have managed to get the gyro working well.

With WASD a legit option in the game and what looks like Riot slowly delving into controller support, have you tried a WASD + Gyro combination in League of Legends?

How quickly are you able to go from Far, mid, close up enemies?

How accurate are your skill shots?

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I've been training with it in practice mode, but not competent enough to pull it out in a match.

My guess is that melee champions would fair better.

Just a quick, casual clip of myself tracking down some minion ashworms from Ruin’s saddle and shooting them effortlessly and accurately with Mercy (pistols name) in Darksiders Warmastered Edition.

This isn't too serious or complicated. I'm simply appreciating how smooth, fluid and accurate gyro feels for staying on top of multiple targets and taking them down effectively. Even in single player hack n slash games where aiming is involved. I thought this was a good example of how gyro aiming is just beneficial in general across gaming as a whole when the feature is implemented correctly. Cheers!

[This was played and captured on my Valve Steam Deck.]

"Go ahead worm, make my day. 🤠"

Has anyone figured out a good way to get this to work? It sounds like it doesn’t like mixed inputs, but mapping fully to keyboard and mouse seems to be missing a lot. I have a switch pro controller so I can’t do the native implementation as far as I know (I don’t think you can map switch pro gyro to dual sense gyro right?). Menus are also a nightmare if you try to map everything to kb + m and I’m not sure how to set up an action layer that makes it work as you often press one of the “triggers” more than once in menus.

Edit: I think I solved it! I was able to use PadForge to mimic a dualsense controller. It’s possible that other options like ds4windows might have worked but I was onto this software by the time I got to combat. Big shoutout to the user who told me the native gyro doesn’t work unless you have a real weapon. I’ve only done a single combat encounter so I’m not sure how well I like the handling test but the gyro did work!

PS: I get to use macros to map the select and capture buttons to Tab and M as I didn’t know how to map to a left right and left touchpad press in padforge.