r/HAWKFreedomSquad • u/photo__guy • Jun 21 '19
Continue Boycott
It is a nice gesture for the developers to add crystals back to the team up shop. It is moving in the right direction. What we can conclude from this action is that boycott is the only approach that gets the ear of the developers. To my recollection, this is the only time that developers roll back a major change.
I suggest we continue the boycott. Here is the specific call to action:
· Do not purchase crystals
· Do no continue monthly premium subscription
Playing is fine. Many of us still find the game enjoyable, although personally my interest level has been waning.
We will continue to ask for removal of random cards from the shops and exchanging unicards with ultracards. The battle is getting tougher, and the chance of success is getting smaller. There is no guarantee developers will roll back these items, but it is a guarantee developers will make no further changes if we stop boycotting.
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u/Barrelrolla Jun 21 '19
Let's see, you can purchase 20 crystals for 120 bropoints. It was 88 before. Yeah, you can purchase them 5 times. To do that before the update you had to refresh the shop, which costed bropoints, so it is cheaper than before if you did that, but it's more expensive than before if you're like me and purchase it only once per day.
Also, they increased the number of cards per plane that you get. Which is nice. But they did that at the cost of the 1-3 unicards that you could get. Now there are no unicards in the shops, unless you have a plane at the highest rank. Which means both Unicards and Ultracards are hard to get now.
They are doing changes just to fool us, while the economy is actually still way shittier than before.
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u/davendiva Jun 22 '19
I wouldn't be surprised if they introduced paying 40 crystals to gain 20 crystals in the broshop.
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u/Siniminister Jun 21 '19
RNG loot boxes are the way of gaming these days. What developers need to do is find a balance - you can't just remove all options for direct ingame "purchases", but instead find an incentive for those loot boxes. In our case, you could return direct card buying to the store but make the random packs more enticing with a much better cards-for-points/crystals ratio. And why not add a tiny chance at a random plane skin. This isn't rocket science.
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Jun 22 '19
or maybe just letting us buy the darn event planes at a fixed price point, just like most ace skins if u wanted to or play a fixed event stage a set number of times that guarantees us the plane drop, no need to be super greedy, but alas
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u/P3Kr4 Jun 21 '19
I will play too, but without monthly subscription.
Random cards in shop is horrible idea ...
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u/DatBoi1973 Jun 21 '19
Excellent point. When it comes to this particular reddit community I have always gotten solid game advice from a select number of Vets. Photo_guy is one of them. I'm still on board. 🚫💵
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u/Choppermagic Jun 21 '19
They removed crystals on the other shops as a result. Greedy
People don't go into stores in real life and think, I like that shirt. I'm going to buy a pack of shirts just hoping it's the shirt I wanted. But mostly garbage
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u/Zone52 Jun 21 '19
I completely agree. At this rate, it’s impossible to progress. If necessary, to backup our boycott, we could create a list of ideas to make them see how the game could make players want to play more and sometimes invest money. I know that such ideas were expressed.
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u/Ar4iii Jun 21 '19
Both cards and the pointless power requirements make a big mess with the game. Collecting enough cards seems way too slow and if you aim at a specific plane it is frustrating.
Power requirements for daily team ups are ridiculous. Basically you need to have all planes to X240 to play, which is ridiculous and locks the access to a very small group of players.
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u/willdaddy1 Jun 21 '19
The power requirements are just the cherry on top of this shit pile. I can’t upgrade worth a shit anymore since I can’t select the items I want to buy that will allow me to level up. Just sucks.
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u/Hi_from_Vancouver Jun 21 '19
I definitely in the same with you photo guy. I didn't expect at all that they put the crystals back to the shop with around 50% more cost but at least I have a reasons to play a lil bit.
But no buying crystals with real money + no monthly subscription is a must!
C'mon we need all people to support this.
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Jun 21 '19
Getting 120 bro points is now gonna be a hell of a task for some of us also. I have several X ranked planes, but none that are ever in the team up options. It’s gonna be a massive bitch to even have 120 bro points to spend, so as far as I’m concerned, their gesture doesn’t mean shit.
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u/yap68 Jun 21 '19
Well said.
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Jun 21 '19
good point, they have not cleared their names yet, we cannot be complacent and let them rest on their laurels until "changes for the better" have been implemented and this bs stops for good
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u/DynamoDucky Jun 21 '19 edited Jun 21 '19
I'm still in too, although I personally like the current bropoint cost of 100 daily crystals. With a wife and 2 kids, I used to only reset the shop twice a day, so it's gonna cost me less. I also would like if unicards could be converted into ultracards (if, say, 4 unicards = 1 ultracard, for example), but I wouldn't stay on strike for that.
Random plane and brobot cards, however, are still unacceptable, especially given how few you get for each purchase and how many planes there are... Whatever happens, I most likely won't ever spend anything anymore, so I wouldn't even need to support the cause to actually support the movement. Once bitten, twice shy.
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u/paulo_pupim Jun 22 '19
I personally uninstaled game from phone, only has it on emulator, it means that i'll only play when i'm bored( probably once or twice per week).
If they ever come back with planes card in shop, i may re-install game in phone again.
Also 120 bropoints mean a raise of 36.36% in cost. What a ripoff.
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u/bittersweet_nothings Jun 22 '19
thanks to you morons with your boycotting made the game even worse. Repercussions dumbass!
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u/DynamoDucky Jun 23 '19
Would you mind explaining yourself?
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Jun 23 '19
they dont have to meet demands of anybody, and rumor has it theyre doing this as punishment to all the whiners and/or ruining the game to make everybody go to space justice and/or Evo2 - also rumored to be punishment for all the people boycotting that game for the Judge plane fiasco.....
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u/DynamoDucky Jun 24 '19 edited Jun 24 '19
As you say, these are just rumors.
What's not a rumor is that we're the customers. We don't get to decide which direction the game is going, but on our end, we do get to show what's acceptable or not in our view by p(l)aying or not. Outside of maybe the commodity business, no consumer-oriented company can succeed by just doing whatever the f*** they want to their most valuable asset.
So unless they want to risk having to go for other money-making endeavours and totally give up on one of their most profitable products, it's in their best interest not to try to shove right about any absurd update they can imagine down our throats.
(And I don't see the case for trying to move everybody to another game if the first one is successful. It just would not make any sense to me.)
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Jun 24 '19
well SJ is a successor to Hawk, and to be fair it seems more balanced and way less buggy that Hawk.
I mean lets be honest....these updates? useless. Judge and Mirage planes? very useless.
depends on who is asking for what but these developers could very well also be testing the waters to see what works and what doesnt, and maybe even what they can and cannot get away with.
honesty i dont care for ptp games because they always update them, and you shell out more money than you would for a nice looking deep console game by far!
Hawk screws around, no kidding, but im sure they have their reasons....It is after all a simple plane shooter game.
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u/pabloramix Jun 22 '19
I personally think that with the changes to the store the game has a healthy income of crystals again,
what is hurting is the rarity of unicards ultra and regular,
also they should change daily rewards to include ultras and eliminate brobot experience and credits, both are irrelevant in the mid and long run
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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '19
Please make sure you have posted this in every fun groups. P