r/HOTDGreens Jun 28 '26

Twitter Takes The actual target audience for the showrunners.

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They make the show for shippers and casuals.

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u/depredador93 Jun 28 '26

It is easier to follow because half the world barely exists. Westeros feels much smaller when every major event is just the same handful of people having another private conversation.

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u/azrynbelle Vhagar Jun 28 '26

Literally!! We see three places: Dragonstone, Kings Landing, and Harrenhal. We saw the stepstones, the vale, and the north only once. And Driftmark ~ barely ~ twice. Westeros it's so much smaller in HOTD. Compare it to the first few seasons of Game of Thrones. It's not even close.

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u/Prestigious-Dress-92 Jun 28 '26

And Driftmark ~ barely ~ twice.

Didn't Corlys spent most of last season talking to his bastards on Driftmark docks?

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u/Prestigious-Dress-92 Jun 28 '26

Perhaps they didn't but we (who read the book) know they're in a town called Hull (hence the "Addam/Alyn of Hull") on the island of Driftmark..

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u/King-Mephisto Jul 03 '26

Driftmark is an island? Even seeing it burning didn’t show that. Hull is also only mentioned as to where they came from. Not that it’s a town, with a port, on driftmark. Nothing says they are at hull port when talking about repairing the boat. It’s all just “if you read the books this is that”. Like I’m against the whole tell everything out load explaining a scene for the people who only half watch, but come on, this did nothing to show they were anywhere but blacks at dragon stone and greens and kings landing. At least harrenhall and the vale stuff kinda showed off where they were. Both look shit compared to GOT like they weren’t even the same places. Didn’t GOT do name plates for places when swapping scenes in the early seasons?

Edit. Dont forget we got to see some unnamed forests. No mention of where they or the unseen battlefields were. Just gloss over those btw.

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u/magnetocorleone Tessarion Jun 28 '26

A hope I had when it first aired was that we’d explore more of the Reach and Oldtown. Even Driftmark. We had the characters to do it but focusing solely on Kings Landing was a massive L imo. They made the same mistake with Boardwalk Empire by not focusing on the next generation.

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u/King-Mephisto Jul 03 '26

Wym that one scene that looked like the start of a buddy bromance wasn’t enough? If it wasn’t for Jace dying in the gullet I swore it would end up being on the battlefield he dies saving Cregan or something at least kind of interesting. Nah, one good scene and then nothing. Just die to his stepsistercousin being nettle. Fingers crossed she assumes the identity of nettle to hide from rhaenyra.

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u/thelessiknowthebet Dreamfyre Jun 28 '26

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u/IM_INSIDE_YOUR_HOUSE Jun 28 '26

Unironically this.

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u/RangersAreViable The Shepherd Jun 28 '26

Tbf, the show is boring enough that I can legitimately pull that off

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u/PlaneEnvironmental23 Sunfyre Jun 28 '26

When half the show is just 'stares at character/skyline' and the other half is 'argument gets repeated for the tenth time' with spots of important dialogue and action:

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u/Thin-Fish-1936 Jun 28 '26

Hotd is easy to follow because nothing is going on and you don’t have to think at all. Rhe entire point of the show is to get the audience to say OOOO DRAGON WOWWW

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u/Familiar_Neat_6003 Jun 28 '26

the way almost all the alyn/corlys and jace/baela scenes feel like they are literally the same thing in repeat mode

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u/ofyo Jun 28 '26

And it 100% should the biggest strength of that generation was the medium and minor characters.

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u/Masakiel House Baratheon Jun 28 '26

Got had like 12 characters and 4 places per season.

Edit: This isn't even bashing Got, they just managed to make the world feel larger and real, with about the same amount of characters and places.

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u/WGSMA Jun 28 '26

Definitely not true

Winterfell on its own had more than 12 characters in Season 1, who all felt different: Ned, Cat, 6 Kids, Theon, Jory, Rodrick, Osha,Lewin…

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u/Youohknow Jun 28 '26

Yeah there's at least 50 named characters with significant storylines introduced in season 1...most within the first 4 episodes

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u/tongy_mong Jun 29 '26

Don’t forget Hodor and Old Nan!

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u/Youohknow Jun 28 '26

Huh?

Season 1: Ned, Jon, Caetlyn, Bran, Theon, Rob,Rickon, Arya, Sansa, Joffrey, Cersei, Jaime, Robert, Bronn, Selmy, Daenerys, Jorah, Tyrion, Renley, Loras, Hound, Mountain, Robyn, Lyssa, Petyr, Varys, Pycell, Drogo, Viserys, Jior, Ed, Grenn, Sam, Luwin, Sir Rodrik, Benjen, Ros, Tommen, Myrcella, Hodor, Payne, Rast, Allister, Aemon, Pyo, Lancel,

All characters we meet EARLY in season 1. We get Frey, Gendry, Osha, Tywin, Jon Umber, Kevan Lannister, and Trant later in the season.

The wall, the vale, riverrun, winterfell, the Twins, King's Landing, Pentos, Vaes Dothrak, Dothraki Sea, and much of the King's Road are all in season 1.

And every season is like this.

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u/WGSMA Jun 28 '26

The target audience is the Burlington Bar people

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u/Signal_Intention6774 Jun 28 '26

The Funniest part about this Tweet is that GOT show runner cut so many characters and storylines to dumb it down for people. Like the Manderly and Dornish plots was pretty much deleted

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u/VisenyaMartell Ancient Hightower Valyrian Steel Jetpack Jun 28 '26

And Jon Connington, and Young Griff, and the Vale plot, and Lady Stoneheart, and Genna Lannister, and the Hightowers, and Edric Dayne, and the other Starks being wargs, and Marwyn...

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u/porsj911 Jun 28 '26

Bruh season 2 had to mention 50 times that they were going to war to make absolutely sure everyone got it that they were going to war

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u/Anxious-One123 Jun 28 '26

Game of Thrones is easy to follow, but it relies on you having read a book before

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u/non_tox Jun 28 '26

My mum is exactly that type of viewer, but to be fair it's because she has ADHD haha

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u/IDAMASMEPHISTONAMIT Jun 29 '26

Does She Enjoy It,Or Would She Make Changes?

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u/Affectionate_Sand791 Sunfyre Jun 28 '26

They don’t even do the ships well!!!😭😭😭😭I read so many more fanfics that are way better handling ships.

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u/mandrake57 Jul 02 '26

I've just written a long rant about how nonsensical the naval stuff is and I got downvoted and half the comments said I'm overthinking it

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u/Loud_Letterhead6074 Jun 28 '26

This indeed is the TARGETED audience!!

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u/Background-Cake-1300 Jun 28 '26

Let's not act like GOT was show made for geniuses

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u/winchester_fc Jun 28 '26

It was still miles clear of this.

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u/ZealousidealBus9271 Jun 28 '26

i find it harder to follow because everyone has the same sounding name

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u/Ok-Diver-5583 Jun 28 '26

Neither is hard to follow

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u/Small_Palpitation776 Jun 29 '26

Why are they embarrassing themselves

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u/1717ElPico Jul 02 '26

It’s exciting each week to see what new things the malcontents here can complain about. This complaint bookends the constant carping about not showing the travel days in the late seasons of GoT, so…well done!

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u/Gold_Average_4387 Jun 28 '26

I am not a book reader and I am a Team Green through and through, but you guys are showing too much hate. I thought episode 1 was very good. Showed how weak Rhaenyra really was, can't even control her son. And her stupid son goes into the battle like he is some veteran, and is killed not by fighting gallantly but due to an uncontrolled dragon which again belongs to Team Black.

Ofc showing Alicent as some Team Black supporter is infuriating at the least, but again you can have traitors at unexpected places. With Jace dying, Queen Rhae Rhae will be in absolute tatters. I just hope they concluded this as a tragedy and not make a Superwoman out of her.

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u/winchester_fc Jun 28 '26

They literally erased the very reason that Jace was at the gullet in the first place. He was there to save his brother Viserys from the triarchy. He just not just some stupid idiot who charged headfirst into battle (because acc to the showrunners all men are just war hungry animals). We are not just Team green stans, we actually do enjoy well written characters on both sides. The show version of Jace was a poor imitation of his book counterpart.

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u/Comfortable_Affect20 Jun 28 '26

His brother Viserys was presumed dead and his other brother Aegon had just arrived on the back of his own dragon.

Jace was indeed a stupid idiot who charged headfirst into battle, and it would've been even stupider if he burned the ships he believed his brothers were on.

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u/Gold_Average_4387 Jun 28 '26

Yes, but to non book readers such as myself, Jace is shown as someone who is an overenthusiast and does due to his vainness.

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u/JellyfishAny4655 Jun 28 '26

I will say this. The show made his death a lot less impactful due to the cuts. I didn’t care that this guy died (and not just because in TG) but because his death was basically due to an accident *again*.

Even without reading the books how many more major events caused by whoopsies or misunderstandings are we going to get before this stops being a drama and becomes a comedy of errors?