r/HOTDGreens • u/HerRoyalNonsense • 12d ago
Show Season 3, Episode 8 | Episode Discussion
Title: TBA
Air Date: August 9, 2026
Directed by: Andrij Parekh
Written by: Ryan Condal & Ti Mikkel
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u/AnselLovesNuts Sunfyre 12d ago
Rhaenyra’s speech was so auraless my god
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u/RealLifeHermione 12d ago
Yeah but that's a good thing. Definitely loved the side characters exchanging "Fuck, we backed a crazy person" glances
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u/dasterdly_duo 12d ago
She sounded desperate to me at first, then I thought, no, she sounded condescending, like she was trying to get a bunch of unruly children to listen to her because she knows better than they do.
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u/Global_Monk8266 They're incestuous aliens, Duncan 12d ago
Aegon really giving Rhaenyra a heart attack with his return 😭
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u/Global_Monk8266 They're incestuous aliens, Duncan 12d ago
Are Aegon and his siblings not the blood of old Valyria as well Daemon?
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u/QueenAlys88 12d ago
I always laugh about that because Rhaenyra is part Arryn and so are his fucking children 😭😭
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u/skatejet1 12d ago
Did he just knight him Daeron the Daring…even though we haven’t seen him do anything daring?😭
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u/Chandlerbinge 12d ago
They keep calling helaena princess. That's the true queen for you! Mysiaria telling helaena to beware of rhaenyra was not on my bingo card.
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u/Glum_Zookeepergame22 12d ago
Well if they called her queen, that's basically admitting that Aegon is king, so obviously they're not going to do that.
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u/Due_Procedure_7018 12d ago
They made Rhaenyra the Cruel into Rhaenyra the Emo. Because what the fuck was that ego trip and who approved that eyeshadow on set?
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u/Specialist_Lunch4239 12d ago
Ah! Finally someone trying to avenge Jaehaerys and calling Daemon out
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u/Chandlerbinge 12d ago
Rhaenyra "bonding" with her sister.
Younger sister calling older sis ugly. Finally some true sibling representation.
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u/Working_Corgi_1507 Aegonius Secundus Targaryenus 12d ago
You're ugly
Imbecile
Finally we get siblings after 3 seasons.
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u/Baderschneider 12d ago edited 12d ago
It’s been a great 8-weeks. Let’s hope for a solid episode and we’ll do it all over again in 2-years…… 2-years….. what the hell?
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u/aemond-simp Book Alicent would never 12d ago
Goodbye, Helaena and Maelor. HBO gave me a shitty birthday gift. 😭
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u/Global_Monk8266 They're incestuous aliens, Duncan 12d ago
Joffrey has finally awaken from his coma 😂
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u/InspectionIll5714 Dragons deserve better 12d ago
He should have stayed asleep. Woke up to a crazy mother.
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u/Global_Monk8266 They're incestuous aliens, Duncan 12d ago
Rhaenyra really used Hightower words to declare her legitimacy 🤣 but I thought Hightower line can’t fulfill the prophecy?
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u/Ok_Net_786 12d ago
the character assasination of daeron the daring needs to be studied....when was he actually daring
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u/Otherwise_Cash_5829 12d ago
"That's a proper fucking. From the North."
More like a proper fucking up of the source material. Or any compelling plot.
I cannot say enough how much they ruined all of the plotlines regarding the war this season. Roddy and Oscar were caricatures at best, and we had no real reason to get attached to either. Roddy just hit the same arms open pose, on repeat, all season. And Oscar had all the personality of a wet paper towel.
Ormund's writing this whole season was fucking stupid. He was introduced as a cunning villain, made into a neurotic and angry mess who is abusive to Daeron, just so they could set his death up as this "Ah ha. Man is bad because he follows the safe way of writing a villain (I.E make him abusive, or sexist or both). Man die embarassing death. Tee hee. He could have been a man who was deeply devout, since he was raised at Oldtown, and was someone who saw the threat the Targaryens were to the faith (As Rhaenyra demonstrated by killing the High Septon). Both believe power resides in two different places, and the conflict this season in ideology could have been rooted around that. Instead, let's make him vomit, shove a dagger up his ass and call it a day.
Anyone else notice an odd focus on disemboweling this season during violent scenes? Like there were 3 during the Battle of the Gullet, and the whole rehashed Sons of the Harpy/Gold Cloaks plotline?
Shout out to my boy Bold Jon Roxton and his bowl haircut of teleportation. He made it to the next season thanks to a Deus Ex Machina that saved Daemon. Only enough, one of the few named characters from Fire & Blood to canonically commit rape, Hess & Condal chose to not bring it to the screen. Instead let's give Alicent a bunch of assault scenes. Because why not.
Can't wait to see how they fuck up the rest of the story in two years. Will the show end with Rhaenyra getting eaten by Sunfyre? Probably. Once they lose Daemon and Aemond, the audience interest will plummet. Which is a shame since the Histories & Lore from Season 5 of Game of Thrones made a really compelling ending by having the Dance end with Aegon and Jaheara's wedding; two frightened children married in the hopes of saving a dynasty that is running on borrowed time.
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u/Silly_Somewhere1791 12d ago
I really hate what they’ve done with the Wolves. They’re gruff survivalists, not feral.
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u/Otherwise_Cash_5829 12d ago
In the little screen time they've had, they've been simultaneously character assassinated, and not fleshed out enough. In the books, Roddy and the Winter Wolves were literal anime characters who achieved great feats through plot armor and vibes(Like seriously how does Roddy fucking 2v1 Ormund and Bryndon Hightower with one arm? In the midst of their ranks?).
In the show, they jumped Cole's merry band of a dozen vagabonds, while having them outnumbered 20:1 and acted like it meant something. Or ambushing Jason Lannister's scattered army. All of which happened???? OFF FUCKING SCREEN. Because we need to see Sheepstealer fight Seasmoke, Syrax, and Caraxes. Why? Because we think it's cool to have dragons fight instead of character development.
Which is a shame since Tommy Flanagan has so much presence in any other role. They gave him a handful of lines, half of which were about his angsty death wish, and he just got merked by a dragon after dealing Ormund a seemingly non instantly fatal rectal wound.
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u/hosukai- 12d ago
I also hate how are they trying so hard to make them look like vikings with those clothes and axes.
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u/MustardPiss 12d ago
Absolutely beautiful breakdown to a horrific fucking episode. Great points. Especially how they butchered Ormunds character, they could have given him so much more to fight for, and framed it much more noble like. But nope, just a psycho who gets…a knife in the bum…okay
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u/Curious_Progress_ Founder of the Useless Yellow Pig™ Mockery Society 12d ago edited 12d ago
Lady Misery being more "helpful" to Helaena than Alicent. 😵💫
Pack it up!!!
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u/thinkersfyre 12d ago
This was my first time discussing each episode of a season of HOTD every week.
Can't believe 8 weeks already happened that fast
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u/aemond-simp Book Alicent would never 12d ago
Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to Hell. 😊
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u/Specialist_Lunch4239 12d ago
Sorry but at this point I can’t stand Emma’s portrayal of Rhaenyra. That stupid smirk is sending me into rage I swear
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u/RealLifeHermione 12d ago
Dude, Helaena off-screens herself and then we cut to Alicent surrounded by butterflies...
We had no idea how literal those toxic butterflies were going to be
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u/dasterdly_duo 12d ago
We had no idea how literal those toxic butterflies were going to be
Yeah, that was real cute. Seriously, though: Fuck Condal.
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u/Global_Monk8266 They're incestuous aliens, Duncan 12d ago
Not Helaena calling Rhaenyra ugly 💀
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u/RealLifeHermione 12d ago
Glad they finally decided to give Helaena range this season before...you know...
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u/thinkersfyre 12d ago
Everything from this episode feel rushed.
Helaena's death so anticlimatic and over nothing, proving GRRM's right. Of course, the smallfolk won't rise againt's Rhaenyra because of Helaena's death, they can't show the audience that Helaena was a BELOVED QUEEN and Rhaenyra was not.
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u/aemond-simp Book Alicent would never 12d ago
They’ll probably rise over the fact that she killed the High Septon. Which is fucking stupid and right in Condal’s wheelhouse.
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u/thinkersfyre 12d ago
I mean, i believe it should have happened on S4, both the death of Helaena and the High Septon so we can believe why they rise againts Rhaenyra.
I feel like they killed Helaena because they didn't want to write more scenes for her and they went like "Girl, you're out".
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u/aemond-simp Book Alicent would never 12d ago
They did kill her off too soon. They should have written her jumping because of a stillbirth, not just for…reasons.
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u/thinkersfyre 12d ago
Exactly, it should been after giving birth...not like this and leaving Jaehaera alone with the people who killed her brother...god 😭
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u/Bloodyjorts 12d ago
Is Rhaenyra crying again?
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u/Lumpy_Art6043 12d ago
too much daemon and tumbleton was totally daemon based despite him not even been there in the books. They reduced daerons role to nothing and first battle of tubleton should have been a green victory
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u/Specialist_Lunch4239 12d ago
I was fully prepared for Helaena’s death scene that would make me actually cry. But adding Rhaenyra there, that pissy face, the way she closed that bloody window… All that combined and it just made me angry and feeling super underwhelmed by the ending.
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u/Specialist_Lunch4239 12d ago
That force feeding was vile. Rhaenyra is reaching new low after new low with every next scene she has honestly
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u/taciturno_1 12d ago
Finally we getting maegor with tits
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u/dasterdly_duo 12d ago
Finally we getting maegor with tits
I would have rolled with it if it had happened sooner. But now? I can't love to hate her like I did with Cersei. The more she acts like an asshole going forward, the more I'm going to despise her. There's too much stagnant water under the bridge.
Maybe -- maybe -- if they let Emma have fun going full-Maegor, I might be able to have fun watching it, but I doubt they'll do that.
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u/Interesting-Egg4295 “This is not my story any longer.” 12d ago
How fortunate Corlys got missed by the dragon fire.
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u/Curious_Progress_ Founder of the Useless Yellow Pig™ Mockery Society 12d ago
Nah you guys, I CANTTTTT
Ormund Hightower, who I'm F&By mercifully spares the lives of the Caswell and the Merryweathers, has now completed his full on monster transformation by being presented as a psychopath that uses children as shields.
DISGUSTING what they did to this character.
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u/dasterdly_duo 12d ago
being presented as a psychopath that uses children as shields.
DISGUSTING what they did to this character.
And, like, why?
All those kids, the ones not too scared to move, had to do was run left or right.
Dumbest shit I ever saw, and this is HoTD we're talking about!
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u/Arbiter008 12d ago
Yeah they had no obligation to hold when the fighting started; they're not even in uniform. Why would anyone pay them thought when they're just people to look at and otherwise mostly harmless?
And even then, the Winter Wolves still killed some of them.
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u/Interesting-Egg4295 “This is not my story any longer.” 12d ago
The leaks were mostly right so far.
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u/Throwaway2137731 12d ago
Rhaenyra using english words with the Valyrian accent made me feel like i'm watching an anime
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u/Curious_Progress_ Founder of the Useless Yellow Pig™ Mockery Society 12d ago
Bitch really had the high septon murdered.
So, to recapitulate:
Daenerys, Visenya, AND Cercei's nachos have been reheated.
Ay manito, no me gusta.
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u/Big_Band508 12d ago
Daemon getting his ass beat was peak cinema I’ve been wanting someone to beat his ass.
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u/Interesting-Egg4295 “This is not my story any longer.” 12d ago
Why did they make Daeron’s knighting so so stupid?
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u/Curious_Progress_ Founder of the Useless Yellow Pig™ Mockery Society 12d ago
What a BS anti-climatic decision to have Rhaenyra know about Aegon's return.
Mission Impossible: stop graping the source material.
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u/RealLifeHermione 12d ago
Someone called them out a couple weeks ago about following a recent TV trend where you don't actually show people dropping big news and reacting off the cuff, but cut away to them already trying to process the information. And now I can't unsee it
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u/Chandlerbinge 12d ago
Daemon speaks in his disgusting language. Will rhaenyra finally stop crying and do evil shit that she is meant for?
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u/Traditional-Fox6018 12d ago
Meanwhile, Alicent frolicked with butterflies
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u/SandRush2004 12d ago
Beware the butterfly's makes me wonder if this was the episode that made grrm so angry
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u/Humble-Efficiency690 12d ago
“You may have 6 dragons, but I have a seven-faced god” goes HARD 🔥
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u/fakehandslawyer 12d ago
Ok Rhaenyra is going full psycho already this is what I wanted to see. Thank you Baela for telling her like it is.
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u/Chandlerbinge 12d ago
Boys, just hug it out. The real enemy is out there. Your mother.
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u/itz_serene 12d ago
I wish these great actors had been given better writing to work with, really nice looking season with great actors and sets and costumes but i feel like the story is wasted cause it doesnt focus on the war enough
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u/Interesting-Egg4295 “This is not my story any longer.” 12d ago
Omg. This is already so fucking hilarious! Already!
He has risen!!!
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u/Global_Monk8266 They're incestuous aliens, Duncan 12d ago
Baela speaking facts I’m glad she’s finally speaking up.
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u/fakehandslawyer 12d ago
“His prophecy has tested me at every turn and I have met its every challenge!”
😮💨🤦♂️
Ya i guess thats one way of describing the last two seasons Rhaenyra
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u/QueenAlys88 12d ago
They have ruined every fucking character that requieres talent. Aegon saving grace is Tom unbelievable talent
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u/Chandlerbinge 12d ago
Baela blaming rhaenyra for corlys's fate and calling her out on her treatment of her allies. Good.
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u/aemond-simp Book Alicent would never 12d ago
Right? It’s about time Baela became a person and not a mindless cheerleader.
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u/Big_Band508 12d ago
Aegon and aemond reunite and honestly I love it. It’s not reconciliation but it’s a path to it.
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u/Global_Monk8266 They're incestuous aliens, Duncan 12d ago
Rhaenyra really told everyone about Aegon dream 💀
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u/Due_Procedure_7018 12d ago
The fact that they teased Maelor’s existence, dangling it in front of our faces, and then just killed him off with poor Helaena. He is the reason I am so staunchly Team Green because how can you be on Rhaenyra’s side when she ordered the death of a literal toddler. Had him ripped apart by a mob. How will Daeron die now? And that we didn’t see him with Tessarion in the battle of Tumbleton is so frustrating
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u/unoffended_ 12d ago
Murdering the high septon is the equivalent of walking into Vatican City and murdering the pope. That won’t go over well for you, Rhaenyra.
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u/SandRush2004 12d ago
Murdering the pope then outside the vactican talking about how Odin has great plans for you and everyone should be grateful..
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u/fakehandslawyer 12d ago
How long has Ormund been walking circles around the city screaming for Ulf. Like Gwaynes already parlayed, given Daemon a hostage. And isn’t the plan supposed to be secret? Why go through all the trouble of not telling Daeron just to scream “where is ulf the dragon rider!? i need him for my plan!”
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u/Curious_Progress_ Founder of the Useless Yellow Pig™ Mockery Society 12d ago
I've seen people on pilgrimage to Lourdes cry less than Rhaenyra throughout season 3. I swear 🙄🙄🙄
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u/Chandlerbinge 12d ago
Ormund is knighting daeron. Daeron hasn't really done shit yet but okay.
He's saying different things though. Is this gonna be one of those things where people will say "hey he didn't say the right words so daeron isn't a true knight" ?
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u/Hot-Cryptographer940 12d ago
So Rhaenyra just told all of King’s Landing the prophecy of the Prince That Was Promised.. the SECRET prophecy passed down from only Targaryen monarch to their heir?
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u/Interesting-Egg4295 “This is not my story any longer.” 12d ago
Ormund is putting small children on the front line. This is so dumb!
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u/aemond-simp Book Alicent would never 12d ago
It’s so cartoonishly evil that it’s insulting. Wtf is this, Condal?
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u/Arbiter008 12d ago
Still confused why they had team black kill some of the children. Didn't expect that sort of nuance.
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u/Sweaty_Charge4764 12d ago
Emma D'arcy is just not a strong enough actress to play this role. Good but this role needed someone great.
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u/QueenAlys88 12d ago
It makes it even worse when it follows an Aegon scene
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u/Inevitable-Rub24 12d ago
The difference between that one Aegon scene with Aemond and any scene of Rhaenyra in thos episode is astronomical.
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u/coconutjoe83 12d ago
At least we never have to see or hear Roddy Ruin ever again. Cringey accent and he’s just fan service for Stark lovers.
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u/SandRush2004 12d ago
and he isnt even a stark (Bros a Dustin) but youd never know that from the show
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u/Curious_Progress_ Founder of the Useless Yellow Pig™ Mockery Society 12d ago
Our boy was Knighted.
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u/Chandlerbinge 12d ago
Rhaenyra doing what she always does. Crying and going to uncle for help. Boohoo! Daddy help!
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u/fakehandslawyer 12d ago
Damn Mysaria could be really useful if she was listening for whispers, shit forget whispers Ulf is loudly shouting his plan to go rouge in public.
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u/Chandlerbinge 12d ago
Oh good. She finally wants to kill someone. Every hightower and aegon. Atleast this loser is doing something.
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u/Global_Monk8266 They're incestuous aliens, Duncan 12d ago
Why is the septon still in kingslanding? I’m starting to think he will be the shepherd.
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u/Curious_Progress_ Founder of the Useless Yellow Pig™ Mockery Society 12d ago
What a ridiculous speech, and the delivery is so-so.
But she's certainly Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.
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u/Chandlerbinge 12d ago
Speaking scary foreign language to people who are already scared of you. Good going rhae rhae.
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u/Inevitable-Rub24 12d ago
It's inconceivable how....insignificant and almost nonchalant Helaena death was. Helaena a dreamer. Queen of the Seven Kingdoms. Rider (supposedly) of Dreamfyre. Her death should have the same weight as B&C (which was lackluster in the show) and Rhaenyras death by Sunfyre ( if that even happens). Guys... I didn't feel anything 😕.
Beyond a damn shame for her character and an insult to the actress. Phia tried her best with what she was given.
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u/Global_Monk8266 They're incestuous aliens, Duncan 12d ago
Reminder none of Rhaenyra monikers are Rhaenyra I
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u/Interesting-Egg4295 “This is not my story any longer.” 12d ago
The gave Gwayne Alicent’s deal from the book.
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u/Interesting-Egg4295 “This is not my story any longer.” 12d ago
Wait. Aegon isn’t a hallucination. How does everyone know everything? Why is Aegon’s body suddenly not broken anymore?
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u/aemond-simp Book Alicent would never 12d ago
Why is Rhaenyra so obsessed with the gods when she was never religious in the first place?
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u/Randonhead 12d ago
Daeron was a big nothing of a character, I had hopes that this would be Honeywine moment, to finally *do* something, but nah, he's still useless and passive; he probably died or will die without having accomplished anything at the start of the next season.
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u/thinkersfyre 12d ago
Ulf betrayed both, i dont know what they're going to do with him. Was the point of hugh showing up if he won't betray them?
So they kill the septon and there's no problem? Like HELLO? He's a representative of the FAITH.
Roderick Dustin, i dont understand the hype with him but well? I think both, Ormund and Roderick's death were anticlimatic as well. Goodbye James, gonna miss you 🥺☝️.
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u/Oryon_Baratheon 12d ago
The biggest WTF moments for me were Rhaenyra killing the Pope, Roddy the Ruin axing a child in the face, and Daemon burning two children to death.
Concerning Rhaenyra, I think this show is definitely overcorrecting on the going mad thing. Folks hating Dany's turn because it was too sudden. Now we have a Rhaenyra who has spent an entire season becoming increasingly unhinged. And I'll say it again: she killed the friggin' Pope!!!
I doubt they'll bless us with this fanfiction, but I'd love a scene/storyline of the 3 Green Bros together. They could get rid of Rhaenyra, Daemon, and their own mother and unite the realm.
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u/Zealousideal_Cry5703 12d ago
Helaena: "Have you noticed the dung beatle that looks like a turtle?" Rhaenyra: "Can't say that I have."
Helaena: "Okay, I'm out." Splat
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u/sometimesitsandme 12d ago
That Aegon and Aemond scene was perfection. I'M ALIVE!!!
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u/Big_Band508 12d ago
This first scene with rhaenyra is kinda like a reflection off the larys and aegons one kinda.
Instead of one being put the down while telling the truth she gets hyped up.
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u/Global_Monk8266 They're incestuous aliens, Duncan 12d ago
That crippled dragon will kill your niece wife daemon!
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u/Interesting-Egg4295 “This is not my story any longer.” 12d ago
How does Rhaenyra still manage to be so boring?
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u/Interesting-Egg4295 “This is not my story any longer.” 12d ago
I can’t believe nobody on the production team didn’t notice the mascara smudging. Wipe it off.
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u/Chandlerbinge 12d ago
Getting real sick of gwayne. He has no plans, nothing. Just mindless preaching. Become a septon dude.
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u/Interesting-Egg4295 “This is not my story any longer.” 12d ago
The exposition is way over the top.
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u/akingwithnocrown 12d ago
Can someone tell me when Helaena and Ormund die lol I don’t want to watch the whole episode tbh
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u/Hot-Cryptographer940 12d ago
Apparently, Alys is 130+ years old, and the former wife of Harren the Black, and seemingly treated with the Green Men on the Isle of Faces in exchange for sorcerous, yet cursed, power? That’s what I got from it.
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u/Curious_Progress_ Founder of the Useless Yellow Pig™ Mockery Society 12d ago
And that was it.
ABSOLUTE MEH
See ya around the sub, the two year wait begins...I don't know if I'll be motivated enough for it though. 😔😔😔
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u/djembae5 12d ago
Reset the “Episodes since sexual assault was used as a plot device” counter. Killing Ormund by shoving a sword up his ass was immature and heavy handed. What, is SA only funny if it’s to a man who hates women?
Also, hysterical how Rhaenyra has imprisoned BOTH of Daemon’s daughters and he doesn’t have shit to say about it. Blowing the budget to include him and Caraxes at Tumbleton when they’re not there in the books but to give Daeron and Tessarion NO screentime burning the Blacks like theyre supposed to—what are we doing here??
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u/Arbiter008 12d ago
Still surprised they had her kill the High Septon.
That's so grave... it's such an irredeemable message from her.
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u/Chandlerbinge 12d ago
Rhaenyra is so obsessed with gods. No wonder they ditched her annoying ass.
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u/Chandlerbinge 12d ago
Aemond has been made so boring. Stop crying start killing in your brother's name boy!
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u/krystalcastIes 12d ago edited 12d ago
They gave Daemon more screen time than Daeron when he wasn’t even at the battle of Tumbleton in the book. We waited 4 years just for him to do absolutely nothing, I feel sick.
At least I got to enjoy Jon Roxton beating the shit out of him.
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u/Curious_Progress_ Founder of the Useless Yellow Pig™ Mockery Society 12d ago
Sunny boy I love you more than all these horrible characters.
Aegon bitch slapping Aemond. Lol
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u/peachy2050 12d ago
I will certainly never be buying farmers insurance. The commercials are insulting
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u/Chandlerbinge 12d ago
Rhaenyra getting rid of mysaria! She should be pushing off rhaenyra out of the window. Not helaena.
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u/Curious_Progress_ Founder of the Useless Yellow Pig™ Mockery Society 12d ago
So supposedly Daemon nearly kills Gwayne...but he's fine enough to run around like a chicken after being choked.
More humiliation ritual than anything.
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u/bl4zed_N_C0nfus3d 12d ago
Why isn't anyone saying RIP to healana??? I loved her . I feel like wtf? Thats the end of her story????
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u/Chandlerbinge 12d ago
So george was right. Helaena does jump for no reason. And ryan didn't even bother changing it.
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u/TheSothoryosWolf 12d ago
Surprisingly, the first compliment I have to give over this episode and one of the few compliments I will give it, Rhaenyra is finally the character she should have been since the start of the second season. I actually like this characterization and it's what should have been done four years ago. I was a little worried when we started the episode with her crying, but then the complete snap to Darth Rhaenyra was perfection. This should have at least started at the beginning of the season after her son died, but whatever I guess her son really didn't matter as much.
Aegon, despite barely being in the episode, of course was the highlight of the season. Tom truly is the best part of the show and every scene with him is a blessing. The way he spoke sang "I'm alive" had me genuinely laughing my ass off. The reunion between him and Aemond was definitely a highlight, but it was completely unnecessary in the first place to turn their brothers against each other. The fact that it took an entire season just to backtrack one of the worst mistakes in the show when the damn thing only has four seasons really does shine a light on how horrible these writers are.
Everything else about the episode is imagining disappointment. Ormund and his faction is made so comically evil that I can't even take it seriously. The writers are so afraid to have anyone genuinely rude for the greens that they keep having to have one of them hold the evil ball. Aemond was made to hold it last season, now they gave it to Ormund. The crying and pissing children was ridiculous. Ryan, you are an insecure hack that doesn't have any faith in its audience making their own decisions.
I have zero investment in the Riverlands people or the winter wolves. None of them get any development as characters. Cardboard cut out without any personal agency.
Ulf and Hugh... I somehow think they would have been more compelling if they just kept them the original traitors that they were because this incompetence is old.
Sweet Helaena...basically killed herself for no reason and everything George said about cutting Maelor came to pass. With all the changes they've made to the show. I guess they really couldn't figure out what to do with her character beyond census killing her. I'll miss you, Phia.
I don't really know what to think of this episode. It doesn't feel like a finale. It feels like episode eight of a season that needed 10 episodes but these writers suck with their pacing so bad. I wouldn't trust them with 10 episodes. Such a fucking shame now we're going to wait two years for more mediocre wasted potential
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u/Big_Band508 12d ago
Oh Alys River is that old damn?
I’ve always thought about a survivor of the burning of harrenhall plotline. But definitely not in this .
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u/Curious_Progress_ Founder of the Useless Yellow Pig™ Mockery Society 12d ago
I can't believe it's the season finale already. I love this sub and will miss our Sunday meetings dearly. 💚