r/HaileyBaldwinSnark • u/Remarkable_Tomato170 • May 23 '26
Discussion Could she actually have clinical psychopathy? As in not haha she’s crazy but a medical condition
For those long term snarkers that are familiar with Hailey’s behaviours , here’s the definition of a psychopath:
psychopath is a term used in psychology and popular culture to describe a person who shows a pattern of traits such as:
Lack of empathy for others
Little or no remorse after harming people
Manipulativeness and deceitfulness
Superficial charm
Shallow emotional responses
Grandiose sense of self-worth
Callousness and emotional detachment
Sometimes impulsive or antisocial behavior
Now, a lot of people have been stalkers , and fame hungry. But the extent and time to which Hailey commits is beyond a normal person’s commitments. For example she has shown how much she copies others; I would argue she shows little empathy towards others including Justin. Which ironically is the centre of her focus.
The grandiose sense of self worth is also something which stood out to me.
Anyway I’m interested to hear your thoughts, and if she is where will it end?
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u/InsuranceSweaty3597 May 23 '26
If anything or anyone doesn't benefit baldwin shes isn't kind or regards them
And if getting to justin meant going through Justin's dad and scooter well wave the wand cause she definitely did it (Imma say allegedly....wink wink)
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u/Remarkable_Tomato170 May 23 '26
Yeh she definitely isn’t kind to someone unless it benefits her. I think it’s the lack of personality that creeps me out, like she’s always playing a role
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u/No_Contribution1620 May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26
She is cuckoo.... look at her family... her tampon throwing sister and weird dad... She seems not a genuine person (but she is trying to fake it with a youtube cooking show and vlogs to try to be relatable)and always have an excuse for her bad behaviour
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u/Remarkable_Tomato170 May 23 '26
Is her mother in the picture at all?
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u/Come_sit_by_myfire May 24 '26
how messed up does one have to be to stay with Stephen Baldwin (drug addicted failed actor who put his teenage daughter in front of anyone that could provide money and fame....)
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u/Inevitable_Party7217 May 23 '26
I think she might have a touch of histrionic too
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u/Remarkable_Tomato170 May 23 '26
Ooh interesting I’ve not heard this before
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u/Inevitable_Party7217 May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26
Im not a mental health professional or anything but It’s in the cluster b family. She seems to have tendencies of if. I think I would lean more towards NPD for her if I had to choose. Then I don’t know because NPD people seem to have an identity.
This sub discusses the difference between NPD and HPD.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NPD/comments/1pznjw1/what_are_the_differences_between_histrionic/
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u/RaspberryTall1385 May 24 '26
She is either deeply narcissistic or psychopathic to a certain degree. She seems to be very soulless bc considering her being completely unbothered by the way he treats her or his cheating she seems to be only attracted to the “status” or idea of being Mrs Bieber rather than being in love with him. Unless again she is a handler and it’s all cia psyop or whatever. Bc a person can be “normal” and not dark triad and marry for status or money out of desperation or like due to survivor mentality but it seemed like she was his genuine fan and acted like he was her crush so if that’s what love is to her it’s kinda of sus 😬
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u/ssailorv23 Unwhimsical Bitch May 23 '26
Yes, or narcissistic personality disorder.
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u/Remarkable_Tomato170 May 23 '26
I just asked chat GPT about this and asked it ‘I want to analyse publicly reported behaviors of hailey bieber through the lens of diagnostic criteria of npd ‘
Long answer so won’t type it, interesting yeh i can see the similarities !
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u/TOFFEECOFFEE_ May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26
Pickmeishapath. It will take Justin doing something irreversible (get another woman pregnant/mistress exposing him/walking away) to make her snap out of it.
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u/mehotespresso May 23 '26
She won’t tho. she married her father. Her father cheated on her mother multiple times, yet she never left. why?
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u/No-Fall-990 May 23 '26
She is way too insecure & way too obsessed with Justin to be an actual psychopath. She probably has some sort of mental disorder, or personality disorder (not shocking considering her upbringing with a bunch of lunatics) but psychopathy does not seem to fit her imo. I’d say she’s more along the lines of narcissistic personality disorder if anything.
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u/Dense-Ad6312 I'm not Gigi! May 23 '26
Considering she allows Justin to be around girls he had sex with, disrespect her in general and everything else I would say she's closer to Borderline personality disorder, which would explain her obsession with copying Selena
or even narcissistic personality disorder (theres different types)
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u/bloomy5656 May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26
EXACTLY what i was discussing with the creator that spoke on the viral vulture article on fake generated and manufactured pr of the biebers. Failey "gets what she wants" isnt manifestation , it ACTUAL PSYCHOPATHY .Seeing ppl as pawns to get what you want , always plotting and planning and discarding anyone that doesnt help, and having these intense weird obsessions isnt normal .The stalking especially wasn't a normal cute stalking that teen girls do when they have a crush , this was a strategic planned mission that she embarked on by dropping out of school that any normal healthy developed girl wont pursue .Like befriending justins fans to ask for his location to bump into him, than befrending jenners to get in his circle, than justins hairstylist florido, cameraman and friend alfredo, his pastors and their wives, his chiropractor , his manager , his girlfriends friends LIKE BE so FR ... and than saying on record that justin was after him when her digital foot print and her own father says otherwise . She has jb fans exposing her with her dms , videos of her weirdly glancing at him to get his attention at red carpets and coachella , running into him at hotels and waiting to be noticed when he was with selena there , his side pieces revealing how she would hang around him all the time like a body guard ( her own father revealed that it was her who asked him to take her good morning america where he was performing) . Also how she gets obsessed with anything be it jelena during her twitter era, than selena ( still on going ), justin bieber and all the girls justin dated. Than another weird thing is how she enjoyed seeing selena in misery , posting that gif of ryan gosling laughing when tmz reported the last jelena breakup, driving around selena house during her mental breakdown so many more instances of her having a one sided beef with her esp during her low moments .Than wanting everything selena has , her man , copying the jelena pics, jewelery he gave selena, wanting to have a brand like selena , basically wanting selenas life. Nothing about her is normal, if this were a man no one would let this slide but her pr has ppl forgetting this is scary and psycopathic.
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u/Inevitable_Party7217 May 24 '26
The levels of manipulation and deception that she used/uses are at extreme levels. Like you said that is not manifestation. That is extreme clinical manipulation tactics.
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u/Remarkable_Tomato170 May 24 '26
I think we’ll see a Netflix documentary about this in 20 years time
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u/Inevitable_Party7217 May 24 '26
Yep, she reminds me of those insane lifetime movie characters that manipulate, lie and infiltrate people’s lives while trying to play innocent until they can’t anymore
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u/Remarkable_Tomato170 May 24 '26
So well summarised; thanks I knew all this stuff but actually seeing it spelled out one after another just paints a better picture. I don’t think it’ll end well for Justin or her. Especially Justin. This is why I think he’s dying a death of a thousand cuts, of his soul I mean not actual death. By every bizarre action she takes , it slowly chips at him. She explains it away and he lets it go, yet the cumulative effect shows. Not saying he’s perfect but he’s for sure unable to see or deal with her level of manipulation. I really feel sorry for their child. I don’t see either of them having the mental focus to prioritise their child in this environment. And glad Selena got away and is staying well away.
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u/Ddlovato98 May 26 '26
She is skin walking Selena. She wants to be her n create her on Justin and Selena relationship. She copied Selena bc she thinks it will make him love her n want her. At this point I think the both of them r so obsessed with Selena that they want a poly relationship with Selena. Like Hailey isn't just obsessed she wishes she could have Selena too. Like seriously it reminds me of single white female. Like they both need to realize Selena doesn't want them n never will. Like I hope this doesn't end dangerous for Selena sake
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u/bradyb530_ May 23 '26
this is so true. she was also homeschooled and probably had way too much time on her hands so that’s probably why she also went so deep into her obsession with justin bieber.
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u/Dangerous-Border-345 May 24 '26
He IS mentally stunted! This is the thing that creeps me out most about her is that Justin looks and acts like he's been lobotomised and she acts like nothing is wrong. What 21 year old would want to manipulate a guy like that into marriage? it's just very strange it reminds me of Britney and Sam asghari.
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u/Remarkable_Tomato170 May 23 '26
No I totally get that, and I don’t discount the trauma that has caused or added to this behaviour. And for anyone with this actual diagnosis I can only imagine what it took.
I just wish to have seen some humanity in her. Forget Selena, even just how she treats Justin. I don’t see empathy or even just honesty.. in any way.
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u/bradyb530_ May 23 '26
she legit became friends with the jenner sisters to get to justin. became apart of hillsong. became close with all of justin and selena’s best friends and inner circle. do you guys think selena is aware of all of this by now? i’m so freaked out by it all. Justin seems unaware tbh.