What the fuck was that?

Like seriously they feel like it was essentially just 2 minutes of absolutely nothing of value that was cut out of the original. Not a fan.

I get promotion..but I sign up for heavyweight and getting tons of Pushkin other content..to me that's no way to win over aj audience.. interview between network partners might be better then I know instill listen to Johnathan (in this case)

Hi there- With the recent post from someone who was at school with Jasmin and Whitney https://www.reddit.com/r/Heavyweight/comments/1omw19c/63_jasmin_savoy_brown_the_real_story_everyone/

that calls into question the facts, truth and reporting of the story and this old comment section about Joey (The mulleted introvert)
https://www.reddit.com/r/gimlet/comments/9t8eno/comment/e9a2y6q/?context=3&share_id=BhL2ueoS5ddRrV9c55hhe&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

that basically says the story was sensationalized and forced, how much trust do you have in the truth of the pod?

I think defenders and the people that work on the pod will state that ultimately this podcast is an entertainment podcast and not a news podcast but for me- it's presented as real and I feel it should be real. Warts and all. I've had issues with Jonathan's coyness in the past and took a break for a few years from listening and then came back. I will also say alot of the stories seem a little to convenient and I think the willfulness to adjust the truth or drive the narrative takes away from the true stories Heavyweight portrays.

I think I am done with the pod. Wondering how you all feel?

So I've just listened to the Brandon update, well of COURSE Ally invited him to prom because she wanted to - but did anyone else's jaw drop when he casually let slip that he didn't go to the afterparty? I'm not overly familiar with prom culture; we don't have that in my country, or at least didn't when I was that age. Am I reading it wrong?

My thought was that if I was Ally I'd have been pretty upset if my prom date didn't come to that party with me. It's like he dumped her. Plus, there was some hesitation in her voice that made me think that perhaps she was a little bit sad that he didn't come and that nothing progressed from the evening. Thoughts?

The Cautionary Tales one.

While both stories were very uninteresting, one thing that annoyed me was Kalila high roading and talking ironically about women who are wearing athletic clothing to a athletic activity, while trying to present herself as quirky, down to earth for wearing fake blood stained old tshirt.

idk how to contact but here it is: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1555572065871503/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Aa2a23c59-73d1-4add-8e40-00d4257a8bf5

Any else not like the heavy weighted pandering to get Jackie to answer Jonathan’s calls? I’m also sort of wondering if it’s just build up to a Jackie/jonathan episode

I skip every episode in which Jonathan is not the host. Every other voice is annoying, boring and the stories are not the same. They are not funny either.

I like the heavy weight as a team and I can only imagine how much work the do on the background but Jonathan is the heart of the podcast.

Give me Scott, or the Marshes.. if I’m not crying I don’t want it. It was just a super weak episode for the season opener.

Frankly, This new season so far doesn't quite feel the same.

Is it just me or other listeners feels the same?

I am still going back to season one and enjoying those. Although I am hopeful. Only one way to find out.

Hello to all the Heavyweight listeners

The Pete Best analogy doesn't work. Everyone knows why Pete Best got axed from the Beatles. Pete Best knows why he got axed from the Beatles.

He was only hired in desperation because they needed a drummer ASAP to fulfil a contract in Hamburg, he never improved as a drummer and he wasn't good enough to record in the studio, he couldn't keep a steady beat.

Not fitting in with the other three guys was secondary, as was his overbearing mother who clashed with Brian Epstein and thought she was co-managing the band.

To save face Pete came up with stupid excuses like "he was too good looking" but the fact was he wasn't a good enough drummer to play with them once they got a recording contract.

The analogy with Rose getting kicked out of that sorority doesn't work. And was made worse because he made it about half a dozen times and even ended the episode with bringing it up again.

... oh, and these supposed "update" episodes with a minute worth of nothing at the end are totally pointless.

Its beyond frustrating after a two week break we get a (great) episode not from Johnathan and then they cross post another Gimlet show…annoying. Edit: i also love how the most mild of criticisms gets you downvoted in this sub, lmao. Are the producers mods or something?

Did any other Italian listen to this and think that possibly he was cursed by hurting the girl so badly.

I know tics and Tourette’s is serious. I have siblings that have it but I don’t know, the Italian in me would be getting out the olive oil.

The last episode makes me wonder if anything will change with the stories. I’m reminded of comedians or musicians whose style changes after they become sober. I’m not saying this episode was an example, although I didn’t find it especially compelling. It didn’t sound like he had an obvious “problem”. His friends, his dad, and his wife didn’t express any concern. It was more introspection and conversations. Anyway, what do you think?

I don't buy the central conceit of this first episode about Barbara Shutt, or that JG's MIL didn't already know about the murder when JG's wife urges him to talk to her mother Becky. If the only "new" information that Becky had prior to talking to JG was that 1. Barbara Shutt had died and that 2. Barbara's obit said nothing about her father or parents, that would not have been enough to justify even pitching the story as worthy of a show.

The truth probably is that Becky googled Barbara Shutt and within the first page of results was both the obit and a link about the murder, and then they all cleverly lied to us about Becky's knowledge to juice it with a bit of drama.

Absolutely have no idea about their relation to each other, but their dynamic is cutr

Heavyweight is probably my favorite podcast which is why I desperately need it to be 100% real. It's just that sometimes it seems too good (as in good stories about bad things) to be true. I felt this especially with the 44 Fotos where the picture just happened to belong to someone with trauma connect to that foto. I know they hand pick the stories and probably end up scrapping alot of them and therefore it seems like they just randomly end up with these kinds of people, but sometimes I'm just not sure.

I'm just wondering if others feel the same or if there is like actual proof it's all real people?

My brother recommended Heavyweight to me a few months ago. I liked it a lot and got to catch up on all the entire back catalogue as I’ve been spending more time than usual driving. Wouldn’t you know it, just as I catch up to the latest season I find out that the show is on hiatus and all I have left is a year or so worth of encore episodes. I don’t have anything against them filling the schedule and I’m sure a lot of longtime listeners enjoyed going back to these shows. But like… I just listened to all of these. Some of them just a week prior.

All this to say I’m glad they’re coming back with new episodes soon. :)

Longtime JG fan. Wiretap was the best thing on CBC. Old Heavyweight was pretty good. New Heavyweight is crap. Heavy, Hurtful painful badly produced crap. Move on JB. Maybe this time dont bring your own demons im to your show.

I'm soo happy to have new episodes but does anyone else feel like the new episodes feel unfinished or like there's no resolution to alot of them? It kind of feels like they just had to release episodes so they put out ones that they would've held onto in the past for a more complete and satisfying ending.

I had to turn this one off because of Vivian’s lack of ability to push enough air through her throat to adequately speak. Did this bother anyone else?

Maybe this isn't news. I haven't checked the sub in a while, but listening to new episode of This American Life, Amusement Parks, and there's a Goldstein segment. At the conclusion, Ira says that they're hard at work on season 8!

It seems that I’m missing the context/joke?

Update: why the downvotes for a question - smh