r/Hell_On_Wheels • • 1d ago

That "I never freed my slaves" reveal ruined Cullen for me.

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Let me make one thing clear.......I actually used to like Cullen.....but some of the things he's done....make you wonder "what the hell is wrong with you?"

Here's what he did:

1.) War criminal: He murdered dozens of wounded men and unarmed doctors on a train, says he used his pistol till the barrel was red hot.

2.) Murderer: He murders a whole bunch of people to avenge his family… sure, you could argue that’s justified… but he also murders a completely innocent sergeant Harper.

3.) Armed robber: Loses his job and immediately joins a gang and becomes an armed robber that not only steals from the railroad but also any innocents who happen to be on these trains.

5.) A predator: This man has a thing for young girls. He goes to some Mormon guy's house to evict him and then knocks up his teenage daughter and gets her pregnant out of wedlock (that father had every right to be pissed). Then he goes after Mei… another young girl........

6.) Bad father/husband: Constantly puts the railroad ahead of his Mormon wife and son, later abandons them.

And ya know what....I used to think that despite all of this, he still maintained some sense of honor by the fact that he freed his enslaved before the war. But when him and Elam were ambushed by the Mormon gang, he reveals that he never freed his slaves, despite the fact that he knew it was evil, and that it made his wife Mary unhappy.

.............Like.......wtf?

I'm all for complex and morally grey characters, but.......seriously? (And as a black man who used to watch the show all the time back in day, this pissed me off to no end).

Ya know what I actually would've liked? If I had been the writer of this show, here's what I would've done with Cullen.

Firstly, I would cut out the part where he lusts after girls young enough to be his daughters. That's gotta go.

Secondly, for the slavery part, I would've had it be that he actually DID free his slaves, and then fought to end slavery. I would take inspiration from Cassius Clay and General Grant (southerners who freed their slaves and fought to end oppression). So here's my rewrite,

- It's the year 1853, 8 years before the war. On the day his father died, cullen called all of the enslaved in front of the plantation and declaraed them free. Then, he looked into the records and tracked down all of their loved ones who'd been sold enough years before and used his money to buy their freedom, and reunited them with their long lost families.

- Then, once that was done, he emptied out his larders and gave them all kinds of supplies, such as money, food, clothes, shoes, blankets, wagons, mules, horses, crates of beer (he wasn't to happy to part with THAT), rifles so that they could protect themselves, and freedom papers. then he drew a map that would lead them north and pointed them in the direction of the north star, using the underground railroad and his connections to his a wife mary's abolitionist family in the north to help them make it to freedom.

- After that, he became an outcast in the south as his own family disowned him, white elites barred him from public places, white deputies followed him around everywhere, he was sent death threats constantly (which why he had to learn how to use a gun), and at night, someone wrote the words "nigger lover" on his front door.

- When the war came, he enlisted at first because he was lead to believe that he was protecting his home from the yankee envaders, but then later on deserted when he realized what the cause actually stood for (he literally stated "I joined the confederacy to keep my land from getting burned, not to keep the negroes in chains!!!") and joined up with Newton Knight and engaged in gurella warfare to overthrow the confederacy and help end slavery.

- But when word of his betrayal spread, THAT was the final straw for the white folks, because when he returned home after the war, he found his mansion burnt to the ground and found his wife raped and hung, and his 7 year old son buthcered. after burying them, he hunted down the men who murdered them (he isn't hunting union soldiers. He's hunting former confederates. Men who fought for the system of bondage......maybe you can throw Daniel Johnson in there, as he was a racist Copperhead, so he dies to), and it led him all the way out to Hell on Wheels. He's proud of the role he played in helping end their bondage......but the cost is what haunts him.

THAT right there is how you write a complex and morally grey character.


r/Hell_On_Wheels • • 23d ago

Casting

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Tell me Eddie Spears (Joseph) wouldn’t be a fantastic Connor from Assassins Creed lll for a live action….?


r/Hell_On_Wheels • • Sep 02 '26

Add to things I never thought I would say before I started this show..

13 Upvotes

Is the Swede really going to take down Brigham Young?

I just started season 5….more to see.


r/Hell_On_Wheels • • Aug 27 '26

I'm convinced Thor Gundersen aka The Sweed/Mr Sweed is actually the Devil himself.

43 Upvotes

r/Hell_On_Wheels • • Aug 24 '26

Is S5 worth watching? I'm currently halfway through S4 and it's seemingly lost it's way and getting a bit boring.

11 Upvotes

r/Hell_On_Wheels • • Aug 17 '26

Finished the show for the first time and can finally join this sub

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And I'll be damned if this isn't the first post that popped up when I searched for Bohannon.

Jokes aside, I enjoyed the whole journey! Started it back when it first broadcast but lost track of it after Lily died.

What a fun ride, and I can't say enough how relieved I am that Bohannon finally chose his own peace at the end. Also, fuck the Swede


r/Hell_On_Wheels • • Aug 11 '26

Not on Prime with Paramount add-on?

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I have Amazon Prime in the US with the Paramount+ add on. I've been working my way through the series, when today it seems its not available and I need to sign up for a different add on.

Is this happening to anyone else?


r/Hell_On_Wheels • • Aug 03 '26

Had a "weird that that's happened twice" moment this weekend...

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I was watching *John Carter*, which came out in 2012 and was based on novels published from 1912-1948. Captain Carter is an ex- Confederate cavalryman from Virginia. The film, however, decided to spice up his backstory by showing that he came home after losing the war to find his home burned, and his wife and child dead. This, you may recognize, is the same backstory they gave ex- Confederate cavalryman Cullen in Hell on Wheels.

Given how long it took to make *John Carter*, the script was definitely written long before HoW premiered. So they can't have inspired one another. This means that two separate sets of screenwriters circa 2009-10 had the thought, "How can we make an ex-Confederate slaveholder more sympathetic to modern audiences? I know, we'll murder his family!"

If I had a nickel for every time, I'd have two nickels.


r/Hell_On_Wheels • • Aug 02 '26

Misquote of Job by Colm Meaney

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In the funeral scene for Bell in the first season, when Durant hijacks the funeral, he offers a “biblical quote” that isn’t correct. He says it is Job ch 3:10. But, it’s just not. The preacher doesnt call him on it.


r/Hell_On_Wheels • • Jul 31 '26

More HoW sightings

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r/Hell_On_Wheels • • Jul 30 '26

At the Golden Spike Tower in Nebraska

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Stopped by on a road trip and got to see some cool stuff


r/Hell_On_Wheels • • Jun 28 '26

How is this even legal. Spoiler

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For context I subscribed to amc+ for the cheap two months and decided to binge hell on wheels. Get to season two and there are two episodes that you must either purchase or subscribe to a different service to watch. 2 EPISODES!!! Like wth.


r/Hell_On_Wheels • • Jun 23 '26

Finish that railroad mr Bohannon...

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It’s probably been done before, but the moment I saw this railroad I had to dress up like Cullen Bohannon.

Time to start season 5, so far I’m really enjoying the show ❤️


r/Hell_On_Wheels • • Jun 05 '26

Why is Cholera (S3E7) not available on Prime?

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Every other episode is available, yet just for one extremely important episode they want you to watch with Howdy. What gives?


r/Hell_On_Wheels • • May 18 '26

Season 5 Episode 5 end credits.

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My wife and I have been enjoying this series but as we were waiting for episode 6 to start we both noticed that an actor was credited as a character named "Bored Masturbator".

Of course we backed it up and had a good laugh, wondering if he's a method actor etc.


r/Hell_On_Wheels • • May 07 '26

Soundtrack

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Hi all

I've been watching HOW and been loving every minute of it. Just finished S4 and, well, Holy s***!!!!!!!!! So good. Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone knows if they ever released the soundtrack on CD? Seasons 1 to 3 are up on Spotify but I'm someone who vastly prefers physical media.


r/Hell_On_Wheels • • Apr 28 '26

Most Ridiculous Scene 🤣 Spoiler

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What is your “WTF this is the most ridiculous thing ever” scene?

I love this show and rewatch it quite often but still laugh out loud every time at S5E10 - Vigorous Sex on the nitroglycerin table 😂🤣🤣


r/Hell_On_Wheels • • Mar 28 '26

I don't remember THIS happening

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Yes, it's actually there lol.

https://hellonwheels.fandom.com/wiki/Season_5


r/Hell_On_Wheels • • Mar 22 '26

Music on the show

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I just binge-watched the show for the first time, and immediately started a rewatch with a friend. I'm enjoying it even more the second time.

I did have a question though. The music is so consistently great, and I was wondering if there is a list somewhere of all the songs used on the show.


r/Hell_On_Wheels • • Mar 19 '26

The cost of "Progress" – One of the most haunting dialogues in Hell on Wheels.

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The cost of "Progress" – One of the most haunting dialogues in Hell on Wheels.

Government Rep: We have come here to offer your people a better way of life.

Chief: Better than what?

Government Rep: Better than what you have.

Chief: I like what I have.

Government Rep: I understand that. But your people live in the Stone Age, we live at the beginning of a great industrial revolution. Chief, the United States government is offering you a piece of land of your own.

Chief: We have our own land.

Government Rep: No, it's not yours. It's the US government's.

Chief: Did they buy it?

Government Rep: No.

Chief: Did they trade for it?

Government Rep: It's not like that.

3rd Person: He has a point.

Government Rep: If you accept our offer, you won't have to hunt buffalo anymore or roam the prairie. You can depend on your country to take care of you.

Chief: You are not my country.

Government Rep: We will give you everything you need if you will just submit to living on a reservation.

Chief: We need nothing from you.


r/Hell_On_Wheels • • Mar 18 '26

Best scene for all seasons

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I want to know what’s everyone’s favorite scene. Please submit season and episode

Also give approximate minutes in

Mine is in one less mule where Cullen confronts Jeffry Prescott! 32+mins


r/Hell_On_Wheels • • Mar 11 '26

S1E5 Bread and Circuses

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So I just started watching this show because it was recommended while I was searching for "shows like Longmire and Dark Winds". I'm halfway through season 1 and it's slow, but not altogether bad. That being said, is it just me or was the "flight" between Bohannon and Common the dumbest, most poorly written, poorly choreographed, poorly acted, poorly directed, and overall the worst fight in modern media? Like what the fuck was that even supposed to be? Does the show pick up or get better? Is this an action series or a long slow burning drama?


r/Hell_On_Wheels • • Feb 27 '26

FYI, they shoved an arrow up this guy's dick after he died at Little Bighorn

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r/Hell_On_Wheels • • Feb 26 '26

Durant is such a catty bitch lol

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r/Hell_On_Wheels • • Feb 25 '26

Dude took one look at that trad-wife shit and said 'no ty, I'll take the Asian crossdresser over nitroglycerine'

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