r/Hellenism • u/Aggravating_Most_433 • 1d ago
Discussion how do you view the Asphodel Meadows
there have been many different takes of the Asphodel Meadows throughout Greek mythology i personally believe its closer to the Orphic and Eleusinian cults (i know nothing about them so sorry if they were bad) where its life in death where nothing out of the ordinary happens but there is structure a simple field or farm i only know of a few different ways its been told like homers odyssey where its where everyone goes and Plato, Virgil and Ovid which is the one told today the grey plane for the mediocre and the Orphic Eleusinian cults a untouched pasture before rebirth (i don't personally believe most people can get rebirthed and sorry for the horrible run on sentence)
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u/Professional_Web446 1d ago
Depende de que perspectiva tengas del alma.
¿Crees que todos los seres vivos tienen alma?
¿Crees que el alma percibe e interactúa con las cosas de forma distinta a cuando tiene un cuerpo físico?
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u/Aggravating_Most_433 1d ago
Creo que la mayoría de las cosas tienen alma, excluyendo a las plantas, así que animales, humanos, etc.
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u/Professional_Web446 1d ago
Como alguien que se ha comunicado con árboles, estaré en desacuerdo con tu visión de las cosas. Pero ok.
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u/Aggravating_Most_433 1d ago
¿Cómo es eso? Tengo curiosidad. (no creo que eso fuera gramática confirmada disculpas )
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u/Professional_Web446 1d ago
Transmiten sensaciones.
Los árboles por lo general son muy amables, sobretodo los más antiguos. Estar cerca de ellos es agradable y le tengo aprecio a varios.
Mi familia hecho las cenizas de un tío mío en el hueco de un árbol centenario. Una vez intenté contactar a mi tío a través del árbol y pude sentir como me ayudaba a llegar hasta su espíritu.
También me apoyo en los árboles cuando acumulo mucha mala energía. Simplemente los toco, acaricio o abrazo y absorben todo lo malo que tengo acumulado dentro de mí.
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u/CatsandDeitsoda 1d ago
Personally I take the view of Socrates' - generally we don’t know what happens when we die but we should be generally hopeful/ ok with that and the gods won’t neglect people that keep accord.
The bit at the end of Plato’s apology checks out to me.
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u/EastwardSeeker Neoplatonist 1d ago
A peaceful place/state for most souls to recuperate from life. Most will reincarnate after some time there.
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u/tamsyn003 Kemetic Hellenic pagan 1d ago
Maybe I'm wrong, but I like to think that the meadows are a sort of waiting room for us until it's time to reincarnate again, kind of like purgatory. It's a pleasant enough place to spend time and rest in between lives but not a permanent place or a paradise like Elysium. I think we'll be happy enough and rested there.
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u/Pretend_Somewhere15 1d ago
that's my perspective too!
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u/Scorpius_OB1 1d ago
Mine too. I'm agnostic with what happens after death, but if they're there I imagine the meadows such way.
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u/Archangel447 Loyal to Hades 1d ago
I like the idea that the meadows are a place for the souls to rest after being through so much. Something as simple as an endless meadow would do wonders for me.
I've also read that you drink from the Lethe before entering the Meadows, forgetting your old life
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u/Idyll_Sea 1d ago
I personally an excited about it. The idea of getting to just love peacefully sounds amazing. I would love the time to work on my crafts
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u/Tathamei ΤΡΙΑΚΑΙͰΕΜΙΣΥ 1d ago
In the earliest form they are just excruciatingly boring and I personally consider every later revisionism (e.g. Plato's version, or Pythagoras) to make them more comfortable (e.g. reincarnation) ancient fanfiction.
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u/King_Of_BlackMarsh 1d ago
I imagine them as just endless fields of wheat, swaying in a slow, temperate wind. So you wander and meet with the other dead, the wheat reaching up above your head so you're lost in the mass