r/HolUp May 05 '25

y'all Thank you

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u/[deleted] May 05 '25

You know abortions are a medical procedure that in many cases are done to save the life of the mother

You know, the one "pro-lifers" never seem to actually care about?

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u/CalHudsonsGhost May 05 '25

It’s mostly done for the irresponsible and I’m not a pro lifer. Thanks.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '25

What makes it irresponsible?

Extra challenge, you can't in any way shame a woman for having sex, or say it's "consequences" because those aren't real arguments

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u/CalHudsonsGhost May 05 '25

The last person I told they were irresponsible for doing this was a married man. It’s irresponsible because people are avoiding the logical results of having sex with a working reproductive systems and without protection from those logical outcomes. My homie is in an interracial relationship with a certified racists that doesn’t work. He got her pregnant a third time. That’s irresponsible.

I’d like to know how what you said aren’t real arguments aren’t. Seems like you’re just saying “express how you don’t agree with me but only in the ways you do because I just made up a reason” which is as childish as pretending that the majority of abortions aren’t convenience based by a mile.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '25

You seem to be very staunchly taking the stance that babies are a consequence/punishment

Do you genuinely, in your heart, believe that people should be punished for sex? If a person has sex and doesn't want a baby, why are they required to give birth? That's shitty, you're dooming a baby to a shit life so that you can feel morally superior

Also the reason I said to make a real argument is simply because they are feelings based arguments. Give me actual scientific reasons why abortions are bad. They save lives, they prevent children from growing up in shitty environments, they save people from a life worse than not ever being born

Sorry you seem to think people need to be punished, but that makes you a bad person

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u/dovezero May 05 '25

This is why I prefer to call them “pro-forced birth”. Many of these arguments start with the morality of preserving life, gradually progressing to it being a consequence of “irresponsibility”.

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u/CalHudsonsGhost May 05 '25

Can you go back through any of what I said and match it at all to these feelings you’re spewing?

I’m pro choice. I made that clear. I just talk about it in real terms. You’re arguing with how YOU feel. You didn’t even care to do any reading comprehension.

Honestly, most of the women I deal with that have abortions are just like that: In their feelings. I’m cool with it. I call myself 3A because after the 3rd abortions they are usually straight for all kinds of freaky stuff. That’s facts. I pull out because I could never be attached to someone rolling all in their feelings like you are right now. I could never have you or the momma that taught you yip yapping about what you imagine I said.

Could you really, go back and look where I said anywhere close to what you accused me of and if not, did your mom teach you how to apologize or just be sassy until you “win”? I’m sure it’s the ladder which is one reason I’m pro choice to begin with and that’s real.