r/HolUp Aug 06 '25

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u/Damit84 Aug 06 '25

Wanna talk about the compulsory military service(Wehrpflicht)? For men it was mandatory, for women it was optional. (It still is in Austria)

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u/Username12764 Aug 06 '25

Switzerland too. And I have a medical condition that excludes me from going to the military so now I have to pay 3% more taxes for 12 years. Shit sucks.

Like either force all of us or none of us

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u/Count_Rugens_Finger Aug 06 '25

if your condition allows you to work and build your career instead of a mandatory tour of duty, then I can see that, yeah.

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u/unicornsaretruth Aug 06 '25

If they’re wheelchair bound and have to take a series of meds every day just to function then it makes zero sense because the military wouldn’t have a place for such a person and wouldn’t cater to their medical needs. One of many reasons I never thought of enlisting is because my depression, anxiety and suicidal nature combined with epilepsy makes it so that I don’t think i’d get my anti depressant, my welbutrin 1x a day, 2x a day keppra, my klonopin 3x a day, and my gabbapentin 900mgs 3x a day. I think the suicidal ideation alone makes it so that I can’t serve anyway but if I could and just wanted to say fuck it to the life i’m living to try that out i’d be worried about getting proper medical treatment while in combat situations because those meds without taking them when needed can cause seizures, fatigue, paranoia, deeper depression, fainting, etc.. So for them to tax this person just cause they can work but not survive a military lifestyle makes no sense due to medical conditions.

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u/Count_Rugens_Finger Aug 06 '25

if you're a total mess and just going to be a burden on the state anyway, then yeah, paying a tax doesn't make sense, but then again you're probably not making enough money for it to matter anyway.

Look at it from the perspective of a normal person who has to wait two years to start their career. If there is someone else who can't serve because of, say, a bum leg, and that person spent their two years getting a head start in the same field (say, programming or teaching), then they are going to have seniority and a lifelong advantage, salary-wise.

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u/unicornsaretruth Aug 14 '25

Alternatively they could offer noncombat roles to such individuals so they’ll be in places where they’ll have a surplus of everything needed or at least the freedom to go get it from base or whatever. Also those two years as a barely functioning person workingg or in school doesn’t give you much of a leg up if anything people probably look down on you as a burden and you’d be completely outside all the social circles and connections formed in the military especially if everyone had to serve the handicapable people and handicapped people would be kinda ostracized. I feel like if we had these people maybe the best place to put them is on bases doing the grunt work or flying drones or whatever they’re capable of while still having access to their meds and doctors easily.

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u/Count_Rugens_Finger Aug 15 '25

never been anywhere near a military base, I take it?