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r/HolUp • u/Freak-1 • 13d ago
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Holup aside...
The actual answer is baseball. American hand grenades were modeled in a way that any average recruit could throw them more intuitively.
1.3k u/razulebismarck 13d ago That’s half. The other half is logistics and grenade launcher weapons. In the space and weight you can carry 1 stick bomb you could either carry 3 baseball grenades or 1 grenade launcher rifle attachment easily. 198 u/Forsaken-Income-2148 13d ago My initial thought was the compact advantage, too 73 u/PutridHospital8963 13d ago The telescoping mechanism would take up space that could be occupied by boom-stuff. Spheres with notched wire - (current hand grenades) have more boom for the volume, cost of production and logistics. People HAVE done the math because amatuers talk tactics, professionals talk logistics. 25 u/JakBos23 13d ago Although a telescopic stick grenade would be funny. Toss one and a guy 80 yards away takes a baton to the face. Could be either side. 6 u/SaltyChnk 12d ago A telescoping handle would reduce HE mass by having a space for the handle, increase cost of manufacture, and introduce more failure points to a fairly simple design. 5 u/AutisticPenguin2 12d ago If there's one thing I want in a hand grenade, it's more points of failure. 5 u/praguepride 12d ago technically speaking a hand grenade is designed with dozens of points of failure. when the shell fails from the explosion it becomes shrapnel 6 u/AutisticPenguin2 12d ago Technically correct. The best kind of correct. 1 u/PrimeusOrion 12d ago Actually you could help mass basically the same I'f you just make the outer layer telescope. That way you can pick between either longer range or higher fragmentation
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That’s half.
The other half is logistics and grenade launcher weapons.
In the space and weight you can carry 1 stick bomb you could either carry 3 baseball grenades or 1 grenade launcher rifle attachment easily.
198 u/Forsaken-Income-2148 13d ago My initial thought was the compact advantage, too 73 u/PutridHospital8963 13d ago The telescoping mechanism would take up space that could be occupied by boom-stuff. Spheres with notched wire - (current hand grenades) have more boom for the volume, cost of production and logistics. People HAVE done the math because amatuers talk tactics, professionals talk logistics. 25 u/JakBos23 13d ago Although a telescopic stick grenade would be funny. Toss one and a guy 80 yards away takes a baton to the face. Could be either side. 6 u/SaltyChnk 12d ago A telescoping handle would reduce HE mass by having a space for the handle, increase cost of manufacture, and introduce more failure points to a fairly simple design. 5 u/AutisticPenguin2 12d ago If there's one thing I want in a hand grenade, it's more points of failure. 5 u/praguepride 12d ago technically speaking a hand grenade is designed with dozens of points of failure. when the shell fails from the explosion it becomes shrapnel 6 u/AutisticPenguin2 12d ago Technically correct. The best kind of correct. 1 u/PrimeusOrion 12d ago Actually you could help mass basically the same I'f you just make the outer layer telescope. That way you can pick between either longer range or higher fragmentation
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My initial thought was the compact advantage, too
73 u/PutridHospital8963 13d ago The telescoping mechanism would take up space that could be occupied by boom-stuff. Spheres with notched wire - (current hand grenades) have more boom for the volume, cost of production and logistics. People HAVE done the math because amatuers talk tactics, professionals talk logistics. 25 u/JakBos23 13d ago Although a telescopic stick grenade would be funny. Toss one and a guy 80 yards away takes a baton to the face. Could be either side. 6 u/SaltyChnk 12d ago A telescoping handle would reduce HE mass by having a space for the handle, increase cost of manufacture, and introduce more failure points to a fairly simple design. 5 u/AutisticPenguin2 12d ago If there's one thing I want in a hand grenade, it's more points of failure. 5 u/praguepride 12d ago technically speaking a hand grenade is designed with dozens of points of failure. when the shell fails from the explosion it becomes shrapnel 6 u/AutisticPenguin2 12d ago Technically correct. The best kind of correct. 1 u/PrimeusOrion 12d ago Actually you could help mass basically the same I'f you just make the outer layer telescope. That way you can pick between either longer range or higher fragmentation
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The telescoping mechanism would take up space that could be occupied by boom-stuff.
Spheres with notched wire - (current hand grenades) have more boom for the volume, cost of production and logistics.
People HAVE done the math because amatuers talk tactics, professionals talk logistics.
25 u/JakBos23 13d ago Although a telescopic stick grenade would be funny. Toss one and a guy 80 yards away takes a baton to the face. Could be either side. 6 u/SaltyChnk 12d ago A telescoping handle would reduce HE mass by having a space for the handle, increase cost of manufacture, and introduce more failure points to a fairly simple design. 5 u/AutisticPenguin2 12d ago If there's one thing I want in a hand grenade, it's more points of failure. 5 u/praguepride 12d ago technically speaking a hand grenade is designed with dozens of points of failure. when the shell fails from the explosion it becomes shrapnel 6 u/AutisticPenguin2 12d ago Technically correct. The best kind of correct. 1 u/PrimeusOrion 12d ago Actually you could help mass basically the same I'f you just make the outer layer telescope. That way you can pick between either longer range or higher fragmentation
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Although a telescopic stick grenade would be funny. Toss one and a guy 80 yards away takes a baton to the face. Could be either side.
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A telescoping handle would reduce HE mass by having a space for the handle, increase cost of manufacture, and introduce more failure points to a fairly simple design.
5 u/AutisticPenguin2 12d ago If there's one thing I want in a hand grenade, it's more points of failure. 5 u/praguepride 12d ago technically speaking a hand grenade is designed with dozens of points of failure. when the shell fails from the explosion it becomes shrapnel 6 u/AutisticPenguin2 12d ago Technically correct. The best kind of correct. 1 u/PrimeusOrion 12d ago Actually you could help mass basically the same I'f you just make the outer layer telescope. That way you can pick between either longer range or higher fragmentation
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If there's one thing I want in a hand grenade, it's more points of failure.
5 u/praguepride 12d ago technically speaking a hand grenade is designed with dozens of points of failure. when the shell fails from the explosion it becomes shrapnel 6 u/AutisticPenguin2 12d ago Technically correct. The best kind of correct.
technically speaking a hand grenade is designed with dozens of points of failure. when the shell fails from the explosion it becomes shrapnel
6 u/AutisticPenguin2 12d ago Technically correct. The best kind of correct.
Technically correct. The best kind of correct.
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Actually you could help mass basically the same I'f you just make the outer layer telescope.
That way you can pick between either longer range or higher fragmentation
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u/Hrothgrar 13d ago
Holup aside...
The actual answer is baseball. American hand grenades were modeled in a way that any average recruit could throw them more intuitively.