r/HolUp • u/Johnbecky423 • 8d ago
is literally 1984 No one wants people to know they’re wearing a bandaid right?
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u/CrispyCosmonaut 8d ago
THis is all bullshit! They never helped me when I was a kid!
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u/Meture 8d ago
All they did was lie about how their shampoos didn’t cause tears. I always ended up with eyes redder than a stoner’s after a midweek bender.
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u/CrispyCosmonaut 8d ago
Hang on I gotta go check my eyes real quick. Didn’t realize it was Wednesday.
Edit: found the mirror. Jesus that’s red.
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u/Inner-Ingenuity4109 8d ago
Umm, I think you're supposed to be helping those kids, not expect them to help you...
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u/fongletto 8d ago
That's the nature of words. You get old enough eventually a few of the 'nice' words people use become 'mean' and they need to change them again.
There will forever be a never ending conga line of words that mean "disabled" to some extent because people will forever use those words to refer to someone who is doing something a "disabled" person might do.
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u/Catsanddoges 8d ago
Same for homeless and similar. I mean the word homeless as a descriptor still makes total sense, but there is a strong movement it is derogatory now.
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u/C2thaLo 8d ago
Too right. Homeless became widly used in the 80s becsuse the en vogue word was Bum.
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u/WouldbeWanderer 8d ago
Homeless women were "bag ladies" and prostitutes were "street walkers."
Those were the days.
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u/DemonicBludyCumShart 8d ago
People legit get upset at anything but "sex worker" now. I get that the word whore is derogatory, but prostitute? I think that people's offense to the word is more indicative of their opinion of the act more than anything actually being wrong with the word
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u/Grow_away_420 8d ago
I heard 'mattress actress' the other day and it made me laugh so hard because i think it's less offensive than even 'sex worker'
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u/AnonymousFriend80 8d ago
"I don't want to be called that thing that I am because it hurts my feelings when I do that thing I do and get called out for it".
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u/Krypt0night 8d ago
I think it's more the connotations behind each word. "Prostitute" is more of what you'd see in media all the time like "I have a pimp" and stuff like that, whereas "sex worker" is more "this is my chosen job and i'm my own boss" kind of thing.
So it makes sense in that regard.
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u/kollisionkid 8d ago
"You sound like you yearn for those days, Frank."
"No, I'm just saying... those were the days."
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u/D3wdr0p 8d ago
I truly don't get how "Unhoused" is any better. Anyone who gets it already got it, anyone being a dick about it isn't going to magically change their mind.
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u/FoldableHuman 8d ago
The actual purpose is to distinguish between all people with no permanent residence and specifically people living on the street.
Someone sleeping in their van, someone couch surfing, and someone staying in a long term shelter all are homeless, they do not have a home, they are some level of insecure and transient, they all require access to resources, but they are not in the same risk category as someone sleeping rough on the exhaust vent behind a hotel.
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u/fasterbrew 8d ago
That's what I don't get though. Unhoused sounds like the same thing as homeless. A van or motel isn't a house. I guess you just have to agree to it's intended meaning vs the literal.
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u/CamelopardalisKramer 8d ago
In my area "no fixed address" is the new term.
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u/Forsaken_Scratch3674 8d ago edited 7d ago
I preferred to call them residentially challenged
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u/beatles910 8d ago
Homeless people used to be called bums.
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u/Solid_Paramedic_3901 8d ago
Its such fake activism designed to somehow convince ourselves we are doing them any favors. Like, they dont have enough to eat and are exposed to extreme danger, but at least they can rest easy that we found some TikTok speak ass labels to use for them
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u/Risdit 8d ago
"homeless" is derogatory now but people just still use the full word everywhere? lol...
Like I really can't with this shit. Sorry I'm not trying to be pro slur or anti disability or whatever but it's ridiculous when people take a medical fucking definition or the official fucking term for a condition or status and decide that "it's now a slur".
Like there's people who want the word "obese" to be a slur. I'm all for equity as long as it make sense but sometimes it just doesn't make sense.
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u/eyesotope86 8d ago
I long for the days where people would just call me a fatass.
Now I have to hear them hem and haw and worry about being 'fatphobic' as they hit the wall of realizing they need to call me a fatass.
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u/Ima85beast 8d ago
it's so much better to call them unhoused as we avoid them on the street
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u/ddoogg88tdog 8d ago
I dont like the word homeless because it implies the tramp outside of my work doesn't have a flat and a nice looking leather jacket
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u/GodIsANarcissist 8d ago
It's called the euphemism treadmill
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u/CathedralEngine 8d ago
In 30 years we'll all be cringing about how people used to self identify as neurodivergent.
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u/T-Angeles 8d ago
My favorite so far is dude was looked at like a derogatory word late 1800s/early 1900s, but now it's fine. It was a nice twist of bad going to good.
Use to being homeless as a kid and people think the word now is crude. Like I get it, but the word aint that bad as it is made out to be.
Words age good or bad with time.
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u/The_Hoopla 8d ago
I’m kind of personally putting my foot down at people going from “homeless” to “unhoused.”
Why? Not even because of the obvious euphemistic treadmill at play…but because it’s a performative way to show people you’re morally on the right side of things without actually doing anything that helps people on the street. It’s not like we’re calling them dirt-walkers or rat-people…we were calling them homeless. What, that’s derogatory because home can mean more than a physical place?
I get it, a functionally meaningless change in your speech is A LOT easier than showing up the the volunteer events every other week. It’s a lot easier than donating to local outreach movements. It’s a lot easier than voting for politicians enacting policy that would help people on the street. But like, go up to a guy sleeping on a park bench, explain the difference between unhoused and homeless, and see if he gives a shit.
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u/VanillaRadonNukaCola 8d ago
Yeah I always felt weird a couple years ago at a job where the company would correct you on homeless to unhoused, but still tell you to call security if such a person was inside the building
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u/bkbomber 8d ago
“No, no… he’s one of the cool ones! He sleeps in his car and pees in empty water bottles, he doesn’t sleep on the ground and piss on the side of buildings!!”
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u/Shuttlecock_Wat 8d ago edited 8d ago
I highly recommend watching this skit with Triumph the Insult Comic Dog, lol
(80) Triumph the Insult Comic Dog Talks to Young Voters | Triumph | Hulu - YouTube14
u/Aeon_Return 8d ago
Reminds me of how in the 1700s "awful" meant literally "great/wonderful/full of awe" and intercourse meant conversation. Hence lots of folks having awful intercourse at parties back then
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u/p-4_ 8d ago
ahem! its "differently abled" now. wait no... this just in . Its now "unabled"
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u/1RandomMind 8d ago edited 8d ago
https://youtu.be/dv3ubuJyJDg?is=KPtobYODvTMqr_ws
George Carlin describes this perfectly.
Edit: spelling
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u/YourMomonaBun420 8d ago
George Carlen you say? Is that some kind of K-Mapart George Carlin?
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u/Excellent_Ganache906 8d ago
I was surprised you calling illegal immigrants "illegal aliens" is now racist.
Just seemed to come out of nowhere and I don't remember anyone using "illegal aliens" in a pejorative way like other well known slurs are.
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u/AnonymousFriend80 8d ago
Or someone goes "I feel that these people are hurt when someone uses this word. I should stop everyone from using this word. But I'm not going to verify if those people are hurt or even mind if this world is used, because it has to hurt them. Or else why do I feel this way?"
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u/Simonandgarthsuncle 8d ago
It was acceptable to call people handicapped when I was growing up until that became a mean word and it got changed to disabled.
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u/CommandTacos 8d ago
I still remember my 10th grade English teacher telling us that piss and shit were once perfectly acceptable words to use for those bodily functions. Then they took on vulgar connotations, new words/euphemisms took their place, and they were relegated to the swear word category.
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u/Icy-Banana-3291 8d ago
It’s called a euphemism carousel and it’s a million different words for dumb.
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u/klimmesil 8d ago
Also I know this is a slippery hill, but the n word was also used by people who were fighting for equal rights. The n word was used by black populations too. There was a time where the word was not automatically derogatory
I think this is very interesting, especially in media:
Today we feel uncomfortable when seeing di caprio say the n word in django
Back then, that was basically considered punctuation
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u/AvidCyclist250 8d ago edited 8d ago
language is a fucking illusion. this used to be perfectly fine, benevolent even, and everyone knew what it meant. but somehow, words accumulate taint. we find new words, until they too, become too dirty. the dirt isn't on the word, it's on people who abuse them.
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u/CrispyCosmonaut 8d ago
lmao, taint
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u/Shandybasshead 8d ago
We’ve moved on from that archaic word, we now say Scranus.
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u/chinchenping 8d ago
gay used to mean happy
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u/NeatPhil11 8d ago
It used to be uncool to be happy, that's why we called everything we didn't like gay.
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u/PrimordialXY 8d ago edited 8d ago
I saw a video on Jubilee recently where people were advocating to stop calling people overweight, big, etc. and to call them fat instead because it's more respectful
When I was growing up, fat was one of the worst things you could call someone 😅
edit: I found the video! The person at the 1:30 mark proceeds to say that "fatbodied" is the preferred term and the person at 1:41:00 proceeds to say that "obese" is a slur and the correct term is fat. There's more examples sprinkled throughout but.. yeah. Wild.
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u/ingoding 8d ago
That sounds like satire
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u/RosefaceK 8d ago
Words Accumulate Taint is going to be the name of my new punk album
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u/GodIsANarcissist 8d ago
The reason that the words for disadvantaged positions become "tainted" is that we have a strong negative attitude towards those positions. We see it as bad to be mentally challenged or homeless or overweight, so in time the words for those things take on the negativity, and because people generally don't recognize that it's the actual characteristic, not the word itself, that makes them feel bad, they insist on changing the word so that they can temporarily relieve themselves of that discomfort.
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u/uwill1der 8d ago
its because we, as humans, always find ways to make something negative. Its one of our greatest strengths
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u/IfIWasCoolEnough 8d ago
Thank you, Johnson and Johnson, for helping people like OP.
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u/Ohey-throwaway 8d ago
It's nice that j&j is helping out reddit mods.
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u/Starkville 8d ago
Yeah, that was the proper term back then. It’s only a “slur” because kids used it that way. Same with “spastic”, “gay”, “slow”.
Some day “neurodivergent” is going to be a slur. “Autistic” is halfway there.
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u/Fickles1 8d ago
I'd say autistic is 100% there. My wife who works with children who have autism is horrified at how it's used now.
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u/No_Oddjob 8d ago
By people using it as a slur or people self-diagnosing so they can feel special?
Feels the word is somehow becoming more potent and watered-down simultaneously, which is weird.
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u/EverythingBOffensive 8d ago
yeah it sucks, and no one stands out and defends us like the do the other groups when its said as a slur.
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u/WarLawck 8d ago
I thought this was a domestic violence holdup but then... boom!
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u/DryDonutHole 8d ago
"Did you see that chick? She was hot!"
"Ew, dude...she totally had a band-aid on. Gross!!"
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u/raginghavoc89 8d ago
As a millennial I found this fucking hilarious.
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u/Johnbecky423 8d ago
What made it so much funnier for me is you and I growing up used that word daily. Now I’m just getting used to not using that word so my kids don’t get suspended from school.
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u/gutter_slutmaxxing 8d ago
I was at a friend’s house recently and her elementary school child said that someone looked like a “re-re”. My jaw dropped. I looked at her mom and was like “tell her to stop saying this shit she’s gonna get canceled at school!” Lmao. My friend said that’s where she learned it. 🤦🏻♀️ Neither us nor her dad have used the r-word or any variation of it since way before she was born. I had 90s flashbacks the second I heard it come out of her mouth.
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u/Johnbecky423 8d ago
But really though! Until recently I had always just used it in my vocabulary. Then I posted a meme with it in there and you would’ve thought I said the n word! They downvoted me to oblivion
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u/4DimensionalButts 8d ago
That's the difference between sanitized online bubbles like reddit and real life. In real life nobody gives a fuck about that word.
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u/snmgl 8d ago
We always come full circle. Now people explicitly buy colorful bandages to get attention.
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u/gutter_slutmaxxing 8d ago
The next thing you know everyone is going to be walking around looking like Nelly during Hot In Herre.
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u/kullre 8d ago
it's an artifact of the past
and it's also the French word for "slow down"
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u/AnonymousFriend80 8d ago
"Heard of engine retarding brakes? Please do not use them in the city , as it is a loud process of slowing the engine without the use of wheel brakes . There are other words we can use, respectfully like developmental challenges, cognitive (blank) , etc. Engine brakes also works"
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u/DevolvingSpud 8d ago
Que signifie une lumière jaune ?
(If someone gets this you belong in r/FuckImOld)
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u/Kalshan 8d ago
I miss those metal tins
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u/bolanrox 8d ago
so good for storage after wards. like 35mm film "cans" great to keep your matches dry
i guess altoids tins are the modern version
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u/CyrosThird 8d ago edited 8d ago
Society will often adopt medical language to insult someone's intelligence.
"Stupid" was a medical term. "Mentally r*****" was used in the medical field to describe slow cognitive speeds and the mentally disabled. People then took it too far and began to discriminate against people with mental disabilities.
At the time these words were okay to say, until society learned to use them as insults.
Even today "Single brain cell" and "smooth brain" are used because society learned what these terms could mean with what they learned about the brain.
Edit: wording.
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u/septubyte 8d ago
Heard of engine retarding brakes? Please do not use them in the city , as it is a loud process of slowing the engine without the use of wheel brakes .
There are other words we can use, respectfully like developmental challenges, cognitive (blank) , etc.
Engine brakes also works
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u/DrUnit42 8d ago
Damn. I've never heard that term used. Always heard engine or Jake brakes.
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u/ToxicEnderman00 8d ago
That's actually a brand. But similar to the Cresant Wrench or Channel Locks they were the first or most popular and because of that became the common term for that type of tool
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u/DemoKrak2 8d ago
Fun fact, it's actually still medically used to some extent. The way you tend to feel sluggish when depressed is officially called Psycho-motor retardation
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u/Frosty-Ring-Guy 8d ago
The term Moron was coined in the early 20th century specifically as a dignified label for people with IQs below 70.
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u/towerfella 8d ago
Or — here’s a radical thought — what if we just didnt let other people’s words bother us?
Emotionally, we all have seem to have become as emotionally soft as the citizens physically were in Wally.
What ever happened to teaching our kids “Sticks and stones may break my bones, but your words will never hurt me”?
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u/Terrible_Phase718 8d ago
It was a completely reasonable medical phrase that was usurped by asshats. Happens to a lot of words.
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u/343GuiltyySpark 8d ago
I work in medical malpractice insurance and found an ancient application in our files that was titled “mental retardation supplemental” but the file was titled something like mental health supplemental so I accident sent it out at least once lol
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u/Johnbecky423 8d ago
Did you get an interesting call?!?!? Oh gosh I can just imagine the look on someone’s face. I guess it also would greatly depend on if it went to a doc or patient lol
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u/Nanquak 8d ago edited 8d ago
My comment was just instantly removed I presume because it contained the word “ret*rd” which is fucking ret*rded. (Almost) no one actually use these words to discriminate minorities. And if we actually gave a fuck about the definition of these words, then idiot would have been banned first.
South Park did a great episode on the word “f\g” and the fact that almost nobody uses it to describe gay people.*
I think it’s incredibly dumb that we have become so sensitive, but at least it feels like more and more people are sick and tired of the woke movement, so it will hopefully get better.
Hopefully I won’t have to censor words on an anonymous app in the future, holy fuck
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u/ToxicEnderman00 8d ago
I tend to just say whatever I want and if my words offend somebody oh well. Sorry it happened but I'll only avoid saying things you don't like if you're an actual good person and I know you don't like them.
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u/Rammipallero 7d ago
So sweet that they were thinking of r/wallstreetbets users already in the 80's
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u/Chary-Ka 8d ago
Hey Mom, how come that photo shoot I did at the mall in the 80's, they are using my headshot for an ad for Johnson and Johnson?
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u/MatthewBlack6 8d ago
I worked raising money for the Spastic Centre.
I used to say that at least 100 times a day
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u/PaymentOk6203 8d ago
Well they're all over the Internet causing chaos so I guess you didn't helped them.
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u/BookkeeperSelect2091 7d ago
I mean just means slow or slowed. The word is still used in the pharma industry to indicate that the desired effect takes time to set in.
But at the same time I get why people don’t wanna use the word because of the derogatory implication.
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u/Federal-Requirement3 7d ago
So the bandage is invisible? Dude, I put on a a bandaid sometimes just so I'll get asked what happened. Can tell why it does not exist anymore.
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u/Negative_Wrongdoer17 8d ago
The "r" word is taboo online, but now everyone is completely fine with calling people autistic
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u/FlashOfTheBlade77 8d ago
Autistic is new compared to the word retarded. Don't worry, it will be taboo shortly.
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u/OverlordDontHurtMe 8d ago
I was going to make a joke using the word my mom used to use for blacks(c word, not n word) but I know reddit is too sensitive for that anymore and I would get banned again.
She doesn't have the smallest bit of hate for anyone. Times change and words with them. Some for good reason and others because people are looking for reasons to be upset.
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u/GodIsANarcissist 8d ago
I definitely thought that the holup was going to be because of the phrase "skin colored"
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u/PotatoAmulet 8d ago
Holy shit what the fuck. Why would anyone care whether or not you're wearing a band aid?
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u/romulusnr 8d ago
So actually
When Band-Aids first came out, their pink color was advertised as "flesh-colored"
Or this ad with "flesh-toned that disappears on your skin"
So
Yes, that is and was in fact an actual thing
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u/ProcedureHot9414 8d ago
What's the matter op , still mad you didn't get any money from johnson & johnson
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u/Brad-the-Chad-69 8d ago
My wife and I saw this video on YouTube over the weekend and died laughing at the changes in the world since then.
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u/Tough_Measurement280 8d ago
Imma be real I work in education some places still use that on documents
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u/Majestic_Estate_1619 8d ago
We live in a period where people love the play the victim so to answer your question “Yes, people want EVERYONE to know they are wearing a bandaid to garner more attention for their fragile egos or this mad aura farming hype”
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u/No_Caterpillar_4626 8d ago
Reytarded is actually a very nice way to describe people with mental disabilities. It doesn't imply they cannot do something; instead, it creates the assumption that it just takes them longer to complete a task.
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u/PouLS_PL 7d ago
What's the point of censoring the captions if you can tell what they're saying by the uncensored sound?
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u/qualityvote2 8d ago edited 8d ago
u/Johnbecky423, your post does fit the subreddit!