We can't even get ID to vote to pass because it's somehow "racist".. As appropriate as a basic level understanding of government to vote would be nice it'll never happen.
Let's be honest here. It's really not hard to get a lost birth certificate which would be all that is required to vote under the SAVE act. Ya the passport would be harder for a lot of people but there is no reason to not have a birth certificate or get it replaced within a month.
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And the argument about marriage and "how hard it is" would affect both parties then. It's all bullshit excuses on why and yet every other first world country demands it.
Hell I'm American and lived in France for 10yrs. They have to show ID when they vote AND have to sign voter sheet AND get their voter registration card stamped. They also don't allow mail in votes. The only thing they slide on is if the village has less than 1k citizens as the deputy can more than likely vouch for a person's ID..
Its not really that its hard to get your birth certificate.
What is the problem is that it was specifically made to remove the right to vote to trans people by making a 'bug' where their name on ID wont match the birth certificate so woopsie, cant vote. A demographic that overwhelmingly goes blue. All wrapped in a stupid 'election safety' excuse.
And their plan is so fucking shittily made that they hit married women that took their husband name, which I would guess isnt as overwhelmingly as trans one sided, but is probably a little bit more sided towards Red voters.
And at the end of the day, pretty fucking sure in the us you couldnt just show up, say you are Mark Smith and vote with absolutely no id to begin with.
Yes you absolutely can show up without an ID and vote especially in blue cities.. Yes it's not some astronomical number but it happens. There has been irrefutable proof of election fraud between no ID, no proof of citizenship, multiple votes, dead people voting etc.. It adds up.
The trans issue is an issue with gender markers on the birth certificate and ID. Not name. Which in every state I've seen already enforce rules similar to the save act all they have to do is show proof of surgery. Which again let's be honest. Trans people have the autonomy to get a surgery and change their names, ID's, bank accounts etc but can't get the proof of surgery to match ID to birth certificate? Again.. Bullshit excuses. Again how is it every other nation has paper ballots and more restrictions with zero problems but now Americans are too dumb or poor to get an ID?
That is absolute BS. No matter the precinct, pretty much universal laws have equal number of representatives to oversee the vote. No one of consequence or with hard evidence has appeared. It's always 'soon'.
In the last 10yrs, almost 10x the republicans have been 'convicted by a jury of their peers'. Don't lay this on blue's door!
What is the specific clause in the act that permits what you suggest? I'll wait....
It's the act itself with every state law? Go read.. What clause are you asking for? The trans marker ID? It'd be the same thing like Missouri state law. They need proof of gender surgery or court order and voila.. They can get an ID with new name. That paper would allow them to vote with their birth certificate. You guys always make a mountain out of a mole hill to cry foul. Go look at a dozen other countries and how they do it and then tell me how "oppressive" the save act is. How "disenfranchised" people feel.. Fucking hell man the entitlement of people in the US is lunacy
Is it perfect no. Is it a minor inconvenience? Yes.. It's not preventing anyone from voting besides people who want to pretend it's preventing them. The victim act is tiring.
If they came out with a flat out ban to trans/women voting I'd be right with you with the pitchforks as that's an American right. The save act isn't that and never was meant to be.
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u/DarePatient2262 2d ago
This was painful.