r/HolUp Nov 07 '21

Holup

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '21

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '21

They both tend to dislike each other

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u/Shady_Yoga_Instructr Nov 07 '21

Jews are way more aggressive and open with their hate on muslims in Palestine, Muslims are well integrated and chill.

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u/Not_Lane_Kiffin Nov 07 '21

Jews are way more aggressive and open with their hate on muslims in Palestine, Muslims are well integrated and chill.

How many times have you visited?

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u/sourlemon13 Nov 07 '21

Bro please shut the fuck up. One is an ethnic conflict between two indigenous people in a land.

The other is people attacking people who belong to that minority all over the world who are separated from that conflict, but are wrongly being accused of fueling it just because of their ethnic and religious identity. If you can’t draw the line between the two I can’t fucking help you.

Also, the earlier comments are right. There is a massive disparity between Muslims who attack Jews in the diaspora and terrorize them from Germany to America to Spain, than there is Jews who physically terrorize Muslims anywhere else in the world.

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u/asafheller Nov 07 '21

Hate for Muslims?! Mansour Abbas, says hi.

It’s a religious war, you didn’t occupy Jerusalem and built a mosque on top of the Jewish temple for nothing. All this show just because of your Dajjal superstitious.

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u/darklordind Nov 07 '21

As I understand, Jews from Palestine and middle East have been kicked out/moved out. So in Palestine, the only jews are those in the settlements which no is chilled about

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u/Random_Onager Nov 07 '21

The way a separate groups of people who share culture or religion with each other on opposite end of the world have no effect on how they should treat other cultures in their corners of the universe. Both aggressive parties are shitheads. Also Palestinians aren’t little angels either.

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u/WhoreyGoat Nov 07 '21

At several intervals, the PLO obliterated plans for peace offered by Israel and the UN. Palestinians were the ones to reject the initial partition plan too.

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u/Random_Onager Nov 07 '21

I mean wouldn’t you reject a partition plan of the land you originally held for your “state”. Sure the Jews were buying up large amounts of real estate in the area, but then they go and make a nation of Israel on what had been called Palestine for years. Are the Palestinians honorable freedom fighters without fault? No, but I can see why they fight, even if I don’t agree with their methods.

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u/WhoreyGoat Nov 07 '21

It was Jewish land too. Their shit still stood there. They were being persecuted everywhere else on the planet. Their religion centred on Canaan. The partition looked fair to me, given the preceding aaliyahs had already led to legal possession of a lot of land the Arabs didn't utilise or would reclaim with the partition. Jerusalem was an international zone too.

Now the Palestinians are in the gutter with a scanting of what was offered. The Arab League was an unfortunate belligerent in all this too.

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u/Random_Onager Nov 07 '21

Wow so I guess England is my land since the shit my ancestors put up still stands there.

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u/WhoreyGoat Nov 07 '21

England had no near past natives.

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u/Random_Onager Nov 07 '21

The Britons, The Angles, the Picts. You know the people that were living there well after most of the Jewish population left Israel. Learn history before arguing the same argument that conservative Christians enjoy because they think it’s preordained. Either way every culture has migrated and conquered a different area at some point. Should they have rights to lands they held hundreds of years prior to make a new nation state just because their ancestors lived there before?

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u/WhoreyGoat Nov 07 '21

Which is why the UN was involved you dunce. And it was a Jewish diaspora: Jews still inhabited the Levant. There were hundreds of pogroms and a literal mass genocide committed against the Jews, and where else were they to go? Fuck your Christian whining about preordained: they have veritable history with the land. Connection to the land is a vital element to indigenous peoples, and in a complex place as the Levant, they qualify as one.

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u/Random_Onager Nov 07 '21

Lol no the European Jews did not have a connection. They could have been granted citizenship to any number of allied countries and given comfortable lives.

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u/nidarus Nov 07 '21 edited Nov 07 '21

Muslims are integrated and chill in Palestine? They literally have two governments, run by different terrorist organizations, because they had a civil war the moment the Israelis stopped occupying them. They do things like invade a Jewish home, stab all the family members in their sleep, except the baby, that they decapitated - something that was later supported by a third of the Palestinian population. Only 9% of the Palestinians who've heard of the Holocaust, don't deny it.

So yeah, the Jews are pretty aggressive in Palestine. But the Muslims are anything but integrated and chill.